Democratic Primary Thread (Updated Poll #2)

[Irish#1]

Can't wait to see Warren and Sanders flip the switch and start going after Biden.

Biden is a gaffe machine waiting to happen. Even with all the softballs tossed his way, he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about half the time.

My fav of the dems, the Russian asset.

They did a couple of debates ago, but I would imagine as the herd gets thinned and the dates get closer they will amp up their efforts.

cute as$

 

[Irish YJ]

They did a couple of debates ago, but I would imagine as the herd gets thinned and the dates get closer they will amp up their efforts.

cute as$

I think it will get pretty ugly, as you say, when the herd is thinned. There's so much out there for both sides to use. Biden could go totally vicious on "woke" if he wants. Even Obama went off a little.

 

[Irish#1]

I think it will get pretty ugly, as you say, when the herd is thinned. There's so much out there for both sides to use. Biden could go totally vicious on "woke" if he wants. Even Obama went off a little.

It speaks volumes when Obama doesn't endorse his former VP.

 

[IrishLax]

It speaks volumes when Obama doesn't endorse his former VP.

Not really, most Presidents don't. Reagan didn't endorse Bush until after the primary was decided. Clinton didn't endorse Gore until December, and that was in a 1v1 race that was over before the first ballot was ever cast.

Those are the only two examples in modern politics where a VP has been running with potential for their president to endorse. We're currently in November with a dozen candidates left... and don't expect Obama to endorse anyone until we're down to just them vs Bernie at the earliest.

 

[Irish YJ]

It speaks volumes when Obama doesn't endorse his former VP.

Yup. I think he's just trying to stay out of it, perhaps to keep clean for Michelle's run in a few years lol...

I thought him going off on woke culture was awesome. Hell, he's a centrist republican these days.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

"Registered voters" are not "likely voters" and they almost always overrate the Democrat.

Trump would sweep Bernie in all six states.

I shared it not for its forecast v. Trump, but to show that Bernie is the only candidate who's going to be remotely competitive with Trump in the battleground states that Clinton lost.

 

[ulukinatme]

If the Dems were serious about wanting to beat Trump, they should have gone all in on Tulsi. I don't see the establishment getting it done again. She's a veteran, she's more moderate, and she's not off her rocker.

 

[ACamp1900]

Beto v Trump would have actually made for a pretty interesting dynamic... Trump hailing the country and Americanism etc while being slammed as an anti american nazi for it while beto is up there literally shitting all over everything this country has ever done and being hailed as an honorable patriot.

 

[GowerND11]

Yup. I think he's just trying to stay out of it, perhaps to keep clean for Michelle's run in a few years lol...

I thought him going off on woke culture was awesome. Hell, he's a centrist republican these days.

Almost like you make promises wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over here to get elected, just to really be a centrist like everyone claimed you were from the beginning...

 

[Irish YJ]

If the Dems were serious about wanting to beat Trump, they should have gone all in on Tulsi. I don't see the establishment getting it done again. She's a veteran, she's more moderate, and she's not off her rocker.

but but but she's a russian asset..

SMH HRC

Beto v Trump would have actually made for a pretty interesting dynamic... Trump hailing the country and Americanism etc while being slammed as an anti american nazi for it while beto is up there literally shitting all over everything this country has ever done and being hailed as an honorable patriot.

I honestly think Beto has some serious chemical imbalances. Dude is straight up creepy.
"It rubs the lotion on the skin" kind of creepy.

Almost like you make promises wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over here to get elected, just to really be a centrist like everyone claimed you were from the beginning...

What's hilarious is that the MSM pretty much glossed right over the attack on woke. They'd embrace Michelle in a heart beat if she decided to run. I honestly think she throttle every dem candidate right now.

 

[Irish#1]

Yup. I think he's just trying to stay out of it, perhaps to keep clean for Michelle's run in a few years lol...

My wife thinks it's coming.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

My wife thinks it's coming.

I'm kind of surprised that Oprah hasn't thrown her hat in the ring yet. She's got a lot of Trump's strengths, and far fewer weaknesses. She'd be close to unbeatable.

 

[Wild Bill]

If the Dems were serious about wanting to beat Trump, they should have gone all in on Tulsi. I don't see the establishment getting it done again. She's a veteran, she's more moderate, and she's not off her rocker.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those days when you don’t feel like exercising and tell yourself you’re too tired or don’t have time — just do it. You’ll be glad you did. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/motivationmonday?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#motivationmonday</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fitness?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fitness</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/health?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#health</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tulsi2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tulsi2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/dkBnhGbKIl">pic.twitter.com/dkBnhGbKIl</a></p>— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1191466692754518021?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

-All in on Tulsi.

Beto v Trump would have actually made for a pretty interesting dynamic... Trump hailing the country and Americanism etc while being slammed as an anti american nazi for it while beto is up there literally shitting all over everything this country has ever done and being hailed as an honorable patriot.

Trump vs Warren should be interesting and hilarious too.

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm kind of surprised that Oprah hasn't thrown her hat in the ring yet. She's got a lot of Trump's strengths, and far fewer weaknesses. She'd be close to unbeatable.

I've said for years that Charisma tends to win out when it comes to the Presidency. That said, Dwayne Johnson should have been serious when he teased running a few years ago, he'd have it locked up. Then we'd finally get the President Camacho we deserve:

 

[ACamp1900]

Trump vs Warren should be interesting and hilarious too.

I see all the dems as tools, power hungry, or socialists but not necessarily anti America at their core. They are either tied to some entity that makes them shill one way or they actually believe big gov is the better option etc and so on,.... and then there’s Beto. Dude is literally unstable and his campaign slogan might as well have been, ‘America Fucking sucks, and you can too!’

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm kind of surprised that Oprah hasn't thrown her hat in the ring yet. She's got a lot of Trump's strengths, and far fewer weaknesses. She'd be close to unbeatable.

Nah. She has way too much money to lose, and way too smart to jeopardize that.

My wife thinks it's coming.

It's coming. She's staying out of the mess now, but when things settle down in a cycle or two, she'll pop in. Honestly, she might save the dem party from themselves.

 

[Irish YJ]

WAPO and NY media going on the attack against Warren lol...

 

[RDU Irish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those days when you don’t feel like exercising and tell yourself you’re too tired or don’t have time — just do it. You’ll be glad you did. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/motivationmonday?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#motivationmonday</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fitness?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#fitness</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/health?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#health</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tulsi2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tulsi2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/dkBnhGbKIl">pic.twitter.com/dkBnhGbKIl</a></p>— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1191466692754518021?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

-All in on Tulsi.

Innuendo much?

 

[NorthDakota]

I see all the dems as tools, power hungry, or socialists but not necessarily anti America at their core. They are either tied to some entity that makes them shill one way or they actually believe big gov is the better option etc and so on,.... and then there’s Beto. Dude is literally unstable and his campaign slogan might as well have been, ‘America Fucking sucks, and you can too!’

I honestly think he was looking for an excuse to either quit politics working or move out of Texas. The shit that was coming out of his mouth was so....beyond out there that I think he wanted to make himself unelectable after losing to Cruz.

 

[Rogue219]

I see all the dems as tools, power hungry, or socialists but not necessarily anti America at their core. They are either tied to some entity that makes them shill one way or they actually believe big gov is the better option etc and so on,.... and then there’s Beto. Dude is literally unstable and his campaign slogan might as well have been, ‘America Fucking sucks, and you can too!’

And you see Republicans in which way, exactly?

 

[ACamp1900]

And you see Republicans in which way, exactly?

More honest about what their actual intentions are for sure but typically every bit the tools or bought and paid for puppets you see on the left.

 

[Rogue219]

More honest about what their actual intentions are for sure but typically every bit the tools or bought and paid for puppets you see on the left.

If there is one thing I admire about them, it is that they are completely out of fucks to give and don't go out of their way to hide it. If anything, they're going out of their way to show that their fucks to give meter is at 0.

I can appreciate that kind of honesty, especially when I stumble into a voting booth every couple of years.

 

[ACamp1900]

If there is one thing I admire about them, it is that they are completely out of fucks to give and don't go out of their way to hide it. If anything, they're going out of their way to show that their fucks to give meter is at 0.

I can appreciate that kind of honesty, especially when I stumble into a voting booth every couple of years.

Yeah typically speaking I think the major difference between the two parties is how much more up front the right is about being corporatists etc.. where the left will scream about fighting against the rich on behalf of the poor etc... and expand all these programs only for our tax dollars to ultimately end up with the big money that they claim to fight against, and it's by design. Aside from that I'm searching for a savior like many... and seeing no one worth my time on either path.

 

[Rogue219]

Yeah typically speaking I think the major difference between the two parties is how much more up front the right is about being corporatists etc.. where the left will scream about fighting against the rich on behalf of the poor etc... and expand all these programs only for our tax dollars to ultimately end up with the big money that they claim to fight against, and it's by design. Aside from that I'm searching for a savior like many... and seeing no one worth my time on either path.

There is no savior. People need to act locally, within their communities. That's it. It doesn't mean running for office necessarily. It's more than just voting, though.

We've becoming very self serving and don't interact with our neighbors anymore. That, too, is by design in my opinion.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Yeah typically speaking I think the major difference between the two parties is how much more up front the right is about being corporatists etc.. where the left will scream about fighting against the rich on behalf of the poor etc... and expand all these programs only for our tax dollars to ultimately end up with the big money that they claim to fight against, and it's by design. Aside from that I'm searching for a savior like many... and seeing no one worth my time on either path.

The Market is our state church now. American politics will only get worse until the economy is properly subordinated to higher goods.

 

[Irish YJ]

Loved Gabbards visit to The View. Behar is such a miserable person.

 

[ACamp1900]

Loved Gabbards visit to The View. Behar is such a miserable person.

Could you imagine a right leaning version of her getting air time like this for years?? I mean, it’s not a political commentary/news show,... It’s be like Ted Nugent hosting a ‘show for men’ and for decades being a complete partisan bully to every single guest and no one batting an eye.

 

[Irish YJ]

Could you imagine a right leaning version of her getting air time like this for years?? I mean, it’s not a political commentary/news show,... It’s be like Ted Nugent hosting a ‘show for men’ and for decades being a complete partisan bully to every single guest and no one batting an eye.

It just goes to show how off balance the media is when it comes to the Left. Behar criticized Tulsi for going on "State TV". She's appeared on every single MSM. What the hell does she think The View is, or MSNBC or CNN. Fox, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, are all one sided but Behar acts like only Fox has a one sided narrative.. LMAO...

Surprised Tulsi or Trump Jr didn't go after them for spiking the Epstein story. Trump Jr did call Behar out for blackface, which was hysterical.

PS... I'd love a Nugent late night show. Every late show out there is a lefty circle jerk coming from either Cali or NY... Even a Kid Rock show lol... Hell, Kanye would be nuclear lit....

 

[ulukinatme]

Loved Gabbards visit to The View. Behar is such a miserable person.

Behar could disappear from TV and I'm not sure many people would care. The way she was treating Gabbard, a veteran and a member of her own party, was particularly despicable. She's a real piece of work.

 

[Irish YJ]

Behar could disappear from TV and I'm not sure many people would care. The way she was treating Gabbard, a veteran and a member of her own party, was particularly despicable. She's a real piece of work.

She could disappear from the planet... She's just another out of touch NY elitist hack. Where's her outrage over her own network's spike of the Epstein story. Hypocrisy at it's best. Would hate to be her husband...