Democratic Primary Thread (New Poll - January)

Democratic Primary Thread (New Poll - January)

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 14 20.3%
  • Elizabeth Warren

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • Pete Buttigieg

    Votes: 16 23.2%
  • Andrew Yang

    Votes: 7 10.1%
  • Amy Klobuchar

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • Mike Bloomberg

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • Other (i.e. an unlisted candidate)

    Votes: 12 17.4%

  • Total voters
    69

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Nevada Democratic Party abandons problematic app used in Iowa caucuses
By Brian Fung and Donie O'Sullivan, CNN
Updated 2:52 PM ET, Tue February 4, 2020

(CNN)The Nevada Democratic Party said Tuesday that it will not use Shadow Inc., the maker of the app that caused reporting issues in the Iowa caucuses, to power its state caucuses later this month, despite already paying tens of thousands of dollars to the Democrat-affiliated technology company.

In a statement, state Democratic Party Chairman William McCurdy II promised that Nevada's caucuses on February 22 will not be a repeat of Iowa's.
"We will not be employing the same app or vendor used in the Iowa caucus," he said. "We had already developed a series of backups and redundant reporting systems, and are currently evaluating the best path forward."
A person familiar with the Iowa app had previously told CNN that Nevada was also expected to use Shadow's software in a matter of weeks.

Expenditure data reported by the Nevada Democrats showed that they had paid $58,000 to Shadow last year.
The app was built to collect and report the caucus results, but some precinct officials said they had issues reporting the results of their caucuses through the app.
Shadow apologized in a series of tweets Tuesday afternoon, marking its first public comment about the problems.
"We sincerely regret the delay in the reporting of the results of last night's Iowa caucuses and the uncertainty it has caused to the candidates, their campaigns, and Democratic caucus-goers," the company said.
The issue, according to the tweeted statement, "did not affect the underlying caucus results data," and Shadow said it "worked as quickly as possible overnight to resolve this issue, and the IDP has worked diligently to verify results." The company vowed to "apply the lessons learned in the future," adding that it has corrected the underlying technology issue.

A cascading series of problems
The software issues were the start of a cascading series of problems -- including difficulties getting through on the phone to report results after precinct officials had trouble with the app -- that led the Iowa Democratic Party to hold off on releasing results on Monday night.
Officials from multiple precincts described to CNN having problems with the app and the reporting process, though some others did say the software performed as needed.
Polk County Democratic Chairman Sean Bagniewski told CNN early Tuesday morning that tests of the app last week did not go entirely smoothly. Last Thursday, Bagniewski advised precinct chairs who couldn't get the app to work to call in their results to the Iowa Democratic Party.
In a statement Monday night, the IDP said "this is simply a reporting issue, the app did not go down and this is not a hack or intrusion."
The Democratic National Committee sent an email to presidential campaigns last Thursday, including details about the app, but saying "the reporting app was not built by the DNC team. We are sharing on behalf of the vendor and IDP [Iowa Democratic Party]."
A copy of the email was obtained by CNN.
Troy Price, the chair of the Iowa Democratic Party, told campaigns in a letter obtained by CNN that a "coding issue" with the app was preventing it from transmitting accurate data.
"While the app was recording data accurately, it was reporting out only partial data," Price wrote. "This issue was identified and fixed." Price added that paper backups have successfully validated the data that made it into the app.
One precinct chair in Iowa describing the failure of the app, saying that the app got stuck on the very last step when reporting results, which was uploading a picture of the precinct's results.
The chair said they were finally able to upload and screenshotted what they uploaded. Then the app showed different numbers than what they had submitted as captured in their screenshot.
A Democratic source tells CNN that the issue seems to lie with a major coding error in the app that was discovered once data started flowing into the IDP, and party officials began to see discrepancies in the three data streams as the results started coming. The source said that it took time for party officials to identify the issue and try to address it, and they noted there was not a problem with the raw data being put in by the individual precincts.
The national party was working to help Iowa party officials resolve the coding error.

A high-tech affair
The IDP pushed heavily to make this year's caucus a high-tech affair. In addition to the app, it initially proposed a new "virtual caucus" system that would see caucusgoers voting by smartphone -- an idea that national party officials quickly shot down over security concerns.
Shadow's involvement was first reported by HuffPost, and a person familiar with the app told CNN it was built by Shadow Inc.
On its website, Shadow describes itself as a technology company serving progressive campaigns, and says that its employees previously worked for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama's campaigns, as well as the AFL-CIO and the Democratic National Committee.
A CNN review of IDP's expenditures showed that it had made payments to Shadow, the company that built the app, in 2019, totaling more than $60,000.
Shadow is connected to another group, ACRONYM. Early Tuesday morning, ACRONYM spokesman Kyle Tharp tweeted a statement distancing the group from Shadow.
"ACRONYM is a nonprofit and not a technology company," said Tharp. "As such, we have not provided any technology to the Iowa Democratic Party, Presidential campaigns, or the Democratic National Committee."
Tharp acknowledged ACRONYM's role as one of a number of investors in Shadow. But he added that "we, like everyone else, are eagerly awaiting more information from the Iowa Democratic Party with respect to what happened."
Last January, however, ACRONYM founder Tara McGowan tweeted proudly that ACRONYM was "launching" Shadow.

Doubts raised

A Democratic official raised doubts on Tuesday about Shadow's expertise in software development, following CNN's confirmation of the company's role in developing the problematic Iowa caucus app.
Shadow's background is primarily in voter-contact technologies such as text messaging, the official said, not app development.
"Our impression was they don't do software development, to be honest," the official said. "It was surprising to see them in all of this, because it seemed like their main work was more like organizing and get out out the vote through technology services. Our impression from some conversations with them was that that was not their area of expertise."
A review of the company's staff on LinkedIn appears to bolster the claim. Of 10 employees who self-identified as working for Shadow, only its chief technology officer, Krista Davis, listed any significant programming experience.
Davis spent eight years at Google as a senior software engineer, according to her profile, working on teams developing Google Hangouts and Google Docs. James Hickey, Shadow's chief operating officer, spent two years as a quality assurance engineer at Apple, according to his LinkedIn profile. The company also has several junior developers and interns who completed their coding certifications only in the last couple of years.
The official predicted that the company's foray into software development could be set back by the Iowa episode as other states reevaluate the company's technology.
"I can almost guarantee you, after all of this, I cannot imagine them going forward with Shadow during their caucuses," said the Democratic official.
On paper, Shadow's offices are located in a WeWork co-working space at the end of a hip, industrial-looking alley in Washington. A mural graces the wall at one end of the alley, which also boasts a trendy La Colombe coffee shop. The entire aesthetic befits the cool startup personality that Shadow seeks to convey on its website.
But Shadow is no longer at the temporary work space address listed in Iowa state records from just a couple of months ago.
When CNN visited Shadow's offices Tuesday morning, a receptionist at the WeWork space said the company had moved out of its space roughly a month ago.
It was not immediately clear where the company had relocated
, but the receptionist said that Shadow had occupied the WeWork space for some time before vacating the co-working site.

Others worked with Shadow
The Texas Democratic Party acknowledged on Tuesday that it had also hired Shadow, but a spokesman for the state party, Abhi Rahman, said the business relationship was limited to Shadow's voter texting service.
"It's very important to note here that we did not use them for any web development or app services," Rahman told CNN.
Rahman said that Shadow was one of a number of different texting vendors that the state party has used for get-out-the-vote efforts in Texas.
According to Federal Election Commission records, the Texas Democratic Party paid Shadow a combined $250 last year in two separate payments -- one in May and one in September.
Mayor Pete Buttigieg's campaign also acknowledged hiring Shadow, but like the Texas Democratic Party, said it only used the company for text messaging.
"We have contracted with this vendor in the past for text messaging services to help us contact voters," said a Buttigieg campaign aide. "Totally unrelated to any apps they built for the party."
The chairman of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, Ben Wikler, told CNN that they also used Shadow's texting service.
FEC records also show that the campaigns of former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand had also hired Shadow.
 

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Tara McGowan
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Tara McGowan Born 1985 or 1986 (age 33–34)[1]
Occupation Political strategistJournalist
Tara McGowan (born 1985 or 1986) is an American political strategist and journalist. She is the co-founder and CEO of ACRONYM, a political nonprofit organization notable for its substantial digital advertising in the 2020 United States presidential election.

Career
McGowan began her career as a journalist, working on the CBS program 60 Minutes.[1][2] After covering the Barack Obama 2008 presidential campaign, she left journalism to become a press secretary to United States Senator Jack Reed.[3] During the 2012 United States presidential election, McGowan was the digital producer for Barack Obama's re-election campaign.[4]

In 2016, McGowan directed the $42 million digital advertising branch of Priorities USA Action.[5] This was the largest ever ad campaign by the largest Super PAC aligned with the Democratic Party.[6]

In 2017, McGowan launched the political strategy firm Lockwood Strategy, which Campaigns and Elections magazine identified as a crucial force in Democratic Party victories in the 2017 Virginia elections.[7]

ACRONYM
One month after founding Lockwood Strategy,[3] McGowan co-founded the digital advertising organisation ACRONYM with Michael Dubin.[6]

Within just over a year, ACRONYM had raised tens of millions of dollars for digital advertising campaigns, running more than 100 ad campaigns and registering 60,000 voters.[1] McGowan was recognized as a 2018 Rising Star by Campaigns and Elections magazine.[7]

In November 2019, McGowan announced that ACRONYM and its affiliated Super PAC, PACRONYM, would undertake a $75 million online advertising campaign, targeting four states which are expected to be swing states in the 2020 general election for US president.[8][9] Since the campaign of incumbent president Donald Trump was reported to have a significant advantage in digital advertising during the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries, this large expenditure by a Democratic-aligned organisation was considered by many political strategists and media commentators to be a crucial safeguard for the Democratic Party against the risk of being outspent in digital advertising before their presidential nominee could be chosen.[8][10] For this reason, Nick Fouriezos at OZY identified McGowan's work at ACRONYM as "one of the major forces shaping the Democrats’ general-election fight against Donald Trump."[1]

Because of the volume of money that it has raised, and because of its status as a 501(c)(4) political nonprofit organisation that is not required to disclose the donations it receives, ACRONYM has been widely described as a dark money group.[11][12] McGowan has received criticism from other digital advertising operatives over the lack of transparency in ACRONYM's funding structure,[1][12] although she and some operatives have defended the 501(c)(4) funding structure as a useful innovation for progressive advertising groups to adopt.[1][13] In early 2019 ACRONYM acquired Shadow, Inc., a tech company that developed an app for the 2020 Iowa Democratic caucuses which caused delays in reporting the results.[14][15]

Courier Newsroom, which describes itself as a "progressive media company," is owned by ACRONYM.[16] Courier Newsroom acts as a parent company for local news websites.[16][17]

ACRONYM also publishes a weekly newsletter called FWIW,[18] as well as an accompanying podcast called the FWIW Podcast, which is published by Courier Newsroom.[19] Hosted by McGowan, the FWIW Podcast is a biweekly podcast about the digital race for the White House. Past guests have included David Plouffe, Jeff Zeleny, and DNC CTO Nell Thomas.[19][20]
 

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The real reason the Iowa Caucus failed miserably.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MSNBC’s <a href="https://twitter.com/ZerlinaMaxwell?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ZerlinaMaxwell</a>:<br><br>“The Iowa caucus is the perfect example of systemic racism. 91% of the voters in Iowa are white. The reason why you see a drop in turnout, I’m just speculating here, it could be perhaps that white children are not in the cages...”<a href="https://t.co/OCg2Dg8e7y">pic.twitter.com/OCg2Dg8e7y</a></p>— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1224746735542657024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

She obviously didn't run that through her brain before opening her mouth. Someone tell her she is more than welcome to move to Iowa and stem the tide.
 

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She obviously didn't run that through her brain before opening her mouth. Someone tell her she is more than welcome to move to Iowa and stem the tide.

I think she has profound wisdom and the DNC should recognize that the only non-racist/sexist/...ist way to select a nominee is to have a panel of young trans minorities who represent all of the pronouns of each unique region determine their nominee. Until then, any process is racist.
 

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Iowa Caucuses Partial Results

Iowa Caucuses Partial Results

58% IN

At Stake 41 Delegates

Buttigieg 26.9%, 363
Sanders 25.1%, 338
Warren 18.3%, 246
Biden 15.6%, 210
Klobuchar 12.6%
Yang 1.0%
Steyer 0.3%
Uncommitted 0.1%
Bloomberg 0.0%
Gabbard 0.0%


Buttigieg "the frontrunner" with 25 votes more than Bernie, 363 to 338.

25 votes out of about 1350 reported ... so far. Definitely a national trend.

Or, similar to MSNBC and CNN commenting on whiteness voting, did Pete just sweep the LGBTQQIA vote?
 

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58% IN

At Stake 41 Delegates

Buttigieg 26.9%, 363
Sanders 25.1%, 338
Warren 18.3%, 246
Biden 15.6%, 210
Klobuchar 12.6%
Yang 1.0%
Steyer 0.3%
Uncommitted 0.1%
Bloomberg 0.0%
Gabbard 0.0%


Buttigieg "the frontrunner" with 25 votes more than Bernie, 363 to 338.

25 votes out of about 1350 reported ... so far. Definitely a national trend.

Or, similar to MSNBC and CNN commenting on whiteness voting, did Pete just sweep the LGBTQQIA vote?

To not support Pete is sexist.

Pete needed this win to go forward, but the Dems kind of hosed his momentum from it. Bernie is the frontrunner in New Hampshire and may win the Iowa popular vote. South Carolina is not a friendly place for Pete, either.

This is looking good for chaos and totalitarian mini mike bloomberg.
 

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Steyer, Aloha Momma, Yang, and the other bottom dwellers should drop out.
 

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So is this the time to be outraged over the system and tampering etc??? Or does it not count with the DNC like last time around?
 

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I love all the racist assumptions these arguments make... whites can't be trusted, whites are inherently racist, whites only care about other whites...

but don't dare do or say anything racist, because that's bad mkay... I swear their self awareness is zero.

They've got a point. A place like Iowa would never vote for a minority for President. Good thing Booker dropped out as they would have escorted him over the state line.
 

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To paraphrase MLK, I have a dream that voters will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.


Van Jones was all over Iowa demographics last night. "How can this state be the first primary when the population doesn't represent the Democratic party? 2% black, 3% hispanic! That's not the democratic party. This can't continue."

YO, Van! Where does the Democratic primary parade goes next? Another "racist state"

New Hampshire
93.2% White
1.7% Black
3.9% Hispanic

If you buy that line of thought, doesn't that make Sanders and Warren both racists by association as their states also have a predominantly white population.

Vermont, Sanders
94.2% White
1.4% Black
2.0% Hispanic

Massachusetts, Warren
93.2% White
1.7% Black
3.9% Hispanic

... and those aren't flyover states.

I was just going to say...African Americans make up about 12% of the US population and Asians 4%. White/Latino makes up the rest generally, so 91% isn't that far off the average. I would think ~5-7% difference would be within the reasonable standard deviation.
 

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Buttigieg just claimed victory in Iowa ... again.

He's so cringey. He gives me uncanny valley vibes. Like someone tried to manufacture the perfect politician but they can't get it to seem lifelike enough.

So creepy.
 

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He's so cringey. He gives me uncanny valley vibes. Like someone tried to manufacture the perfect politician but they can't get it to seem lifelike enough.

So creepy.

I'm with you on the creepy vibe. Not near as creepy as Beto, but still creepy.
 

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He's so cringey. He gives me uncanny valley vibes. Like someone tried to manufacture the perfect politician but they can't get it to seem lifelike enough.

So creepy.

I thought so too until I saw him drinking a beer out of a brown paper bag. Totally changed my perspective - he's one of us.
 
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71.44% Of Precincts Reporting

71.44% Of Precincts Reporting

2020 Iowa caucus results
Live vote returns from the Iowa caucuses
Last updated Feb. 5, 2020, 12:20 a.m. ET

Unlike other states, Iowa doesn't choose a winner by the popular vote. Instead, candidates amass state delegates, based on caucus site results.

HTML:
POPULAR VOTE      %?
Butigie	31,458	26.8%
Sanders	32,772	25.2%
Warren	25,816	18.4%
Biden	16,545  15.4%
Klobchr	15,598  12.6%
Yang	 1,301   1.0%
Steyer	   275	 0.3%
Uncommit 1,101   0.2%
Bennet	     1   0.0%
Blombrg	     6	 0.0%
Delaney	     0	 0.0%
Gabbard	   14	 0.0%
Patrick	     0	 0.0%
Other	  151	 0.0%
71.44%* of precincts reporting (1,261 / 1,765)

*This figure reflects precincts reporting second-alignment votes.
 

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He's so cringey. He gives me uncanny valley vibes. Like someone tried to manufacture the perfect politician but they can't get it to seem lifelike enough.

So creepy.

I'm with you on the creepy vibe. Not near as creepy as Beto, but still creepy.

As creepy as Uncle Joe? lol

Warren got a smack in the face with the results, but it will take several more of these defeats before she accepts reality.
 

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Valley vibes????

I had the same reaction but assumed it was something from his valley girl period that me being a non-diverse, non-billionaire, birth gender person could not possibly relate to.
 

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Anybody won this thing yet?

Still counting from Monday... Last I saw they were only around 70ish %.... So assuming they will need another day or two lol...

I wonder if they are happy they went with a self described "progressive" tech company...

Best part so far is the butt hurt attitude from sleepy Joe. Anyone think Joe looks in the mirror and sees Clint Eastwood looking back at him?
 

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They should have just let Iowa’s 3rd grade class count these. Give them some extra credit or something. Geez.

Joe doing so poorly is lol. He’s already ran like 3 times now. I hope he sticks in there though because watching him try to move a crowd is funny.

I’m rooting for Bernie purely for the entertainment value. I think he and Trump would put on the best debates/show.
 

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Just saw with 97% reporting, it's getting tighter.
26.2 Butt vs 26.1 Sand

LOL Biden
 

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IA Caucuses 97% Precincts in

IA Caucuses 97% Precincts in

CANDIDATE STATE DELEGATES
HTML:
BUTTIGIEG 26.2%	

SANDERS 26.1%	

WARREN 18.2%	

BIDEN 15.8%	

KLOBUCHAR 12.2%	

YANG 1.0%	

STEYER 0.3%	

BLOOMBERG 0.0%	

GABBARD 0.0%	

BENNET 0.0%	

PATRICK 0.0%
 

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Just saw with 97% reporting, it's getting tighter.
26.2 Butt vs 26.1 Sand

LOL Biden

How are they 97% reported but only allocating 27 delegates so far? Wouldn't 97% mean like 40/41 have been given out?
 

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How are they 97% reported but only allocating 27 delegates so far? Wouldn't 97% mean like 40/41 have been given out?


it's % of vote, not delegates. Here's the detail
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/iowa


CANDIDATE STATE DELEGATES
HTML:
BUTTIGIEG 26.2%	

SANDERS 26.1%	

WARREN 18.2%	

BIDEN 15.8%	

KLOBUCHAR 12.2%	

YANG 1.0%	

STEYER 0.3%	

BLOOMBERG 0.0%	

GABBARD 0.0%	

BENNET 0.0%	

PATRICK 0.0%

===================================================

I had the same reaction Gattaca did when I posted that data about 7 hours before your post. You linked the same page that I cut and pasted from. It clearly states "State Delegates" not Vote %. I agree it probably is the Vote % but clearly it's not what CNN posted and did not correct. CNN will probably blame the IDC.

Somewhere else I saw Peter and Bernie each got 11 delegates but the total delegates awarded was woefully short of the 41 supposedly at stake. Is the DNC playing the super delegate sham again? Holding them in abeyance for a Hillary Convention Win By Acclimation?
 

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Looking for a final vote count I found this better explanation. Pete's 26.2% times the 41 state delegates results in 10.7 delegates. The 11 delegates would reflect rounding up. IF that's correct Pete got 11, Bernie got 11, and Elizabeth 5. That's 27 who gets the missing 14? Hillary? Bloomberg?


Votes displayed are State Delegate Equivalents, which represent the number of state convention delegates that determine how many pledged delegates each candidate will receive.

https://www.google.com/search?q=iowa+caucus+results&rlz=1C1PHUY_enUS703US705&oq=Iowa+Caucus+results&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j0l4j69i60l3.9864j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
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