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That same declaration has been put out every year for March 31 since 2021. Here is the same declaration for last year: A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility | The White House. March 31st happened to fall on Easter this year. It won't again for a decade. It's outrage news, and you're so wrapped up in your identity politics that you can't admit that the Biden administration isn't actively seeking to replace Easter with a Trans Holiday.

Also, I wasn't going to comment on it because it's so stupid, but since you've annoyed me... the part about the Easter egg contest is also fake news. It's a rule that was put in place by the organization that puts on the egg contest, and has been around since it's inception 45 years ago. So these are the same rules that applied during the Trump administration.

American Egg Board had overseen the contest for years "while remaining non-discriminatory and not showing preference to any individual religious or political viewpoints, as AEB is prohibited from doing as a national checkoff organization."


As such, one of the submission guidelines on the aforementioned flyer read, "The submission must not include any questionable content, religious symbols, overtly religious themes or partisan political statements."


In other words, the same guidelines were in place during previous presidential administrations, including under former U.S. President Donald Trump.


In an emailed statement, Emily Metz, president and CEO of the American Egg Board, told Snopes, "The American Egg Board has been a supporter of the White House Easter Egg Roll for over 45 years and the guideline language referenced in recent news reports has consistently applied to the board since its founding, across administrations."

 

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That same declaration has been put out every year for March 31 since 2021. Here is the same declaration for last year: A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility | The White House. March 31st happened to fall on Easter this year. It won't again for a decade. It's outrage news, and you're so wrapped up in your identity politics that you can't admit that the Biden administration isn't actively seeking to replace Easter with a Trans Holiday.

Also, I wasn't going to comment on it because it's so stupid, but since you've annoyed me... the part about the Easter egg contest is also fake news. It's a rule that was put in place by the organization that puts on the egg contest, and has been around since it's inception 45 years ago. So these are the same rules that applied during the Trump administration.



So did he lie about the declaration or not? Did KJP lie about it too? If so, why?
 

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So did he lie about the declaration or not? Did KJP lie about it too? If so, why?
Are you fucking dense? He didn’t declare it ON Easter as some war against religion (even though Biden actually GOES to church, compared to our last guy).

It’s just that that day of recognition, which HAS A FIXED DATE of March 31st, coincided THIS year with Easter. It isn’t hard to comprehend.

Also, Biden still said this for Easter this year.
 

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The part for me that seemed inconsistent or concerning is the part:

"when asked on Monday if he had named Easter the Transgender Day of Visibility, Biden said: 'I didn't do that."

It seemed like Biden was forgetting that he signed this year's declaration which fell on Easter.

However, it's possible that Biden was trying to differentiate between signing a declaration that was for March 31st (just like prior years) that happened to fall on Easter

as opposed to

signing a declaration for it to fall on Easter regardless of what date that is. Implying that the intent for future years is that it should also fall on Easter.

If Biden did provide additional comments to further explain what he meant, I didn't see them. His short retort caused confusion as to what exactly he meant.
 
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The part for me that seemed inconsistent or concerning is the part:

"when asked on Monday if he had named Easter the Transgender Day of Visibility, Biden said: 'I didn't do that."

It seemed like Biden was either forgetting that he signed this year's declaration which fell on Easter.

However, it's possible that Biden was trying to differentiate between signing a declaration that was for March 31st (just like prior years) that happened to fall on Easter

as opposed to

signing a declaration for it to fall on Easter regardless of what date that is. Implying that the intent for future years is that it should also fall on Easter.

If Biden did provide additional comments to further explain what he meant, I didn't see them. His short retort caused confusion as to what exactly he meant.
I can see that. I can.

But I think as others have mentioned, namely @greyhammer90, is that it’s clear he is saying it that he isn’t trying to replace Easter. He isn’t trying to make a religious statement about it OVER Easter or anything.

It is always March 31st (since its inception), but because Easter rotates, that’s the day it was this year. And this trans day won’t be April 20th next year.
 

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So did he lie about the declaration or not? Did KJP lie about it too? If so, why?

Watch the video YOU posted of KJP and you'll see she says all of this. "Every year for the past several years on March 31 Transgender Day of Visibility is marked. And, as we know, for folks who understand the calendar and how it works - Easter falls on different Sundays, and this year it happened to coincide with transgender visibility day." It was said by the mouthpiece of the admin in an official presser that you posted on here.

I don't think that you're so dense that you can be genuinely confused when the Biden admin calls these headlines misinformation. I think you understand the context and how they are saying the narrative being pushed is misleading. I'm just wondering at what point does pretending to be that dense for the sake of your political identity become embarrassing for you?
 

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Part of the problem is that KJP is just a brutal Press Secretary. Most of the time she hem haw's around talking in circles, stumbling, saying nothing. The difference between her and Psaki is like night and day.
 

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To nobody's surprise, the National Organization for Women has announced its support for trans women in women's sports.


NOW responded to the news that several former and current college athletes are suing the NCAA for violating their Title IX rights. This has to do with the NCAA's decision to let Lia Thomas compete in the 2022 national championships.

"Repeat after us: Weaponizing womenhood against other women is white supremacist patriarchy at work," the post from NOW said. "Making people believe there isn't enough space for trans women in sports is white supremacist patriarchy at work."

After all the work that went into Title IX and getting women a greater opportunity to compete, NOW is shitting all over it in the name of woke politics.
 

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To nobody's surprise, the National Organization for Women has announced its support for trans women in women's sports.




After all the work that went into Title IX and getting women a greater opportunity to compete, NOW is shitting all over it in the name of woke politics.

Fortunately a number of organizations globally have put a stop to this in the last year, but we've been dragging our feet in this country. This one was from about a month ago, but I've seen a number of other stories of men competing in women's billiards, darts, and track in that time with repercussions.

 

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Fortunately a number of organizations globally have put a stop to this in the last year, but we've been dragging our feet in this country. This one was from about a month ago, but I've seen a number of other stories of men competing in women's billiards, darts, and track in that time with repercussions.


The only thing worse than these cheating, inadequate males are the ones who defend it. What sort of man has to compete against smaller, weaker girls? What sort of man defends it and sees nothing wrong with it?

We don't let 17-year-olds compete in most sports against 12-year-olds and we don't let 25-year-olds complete against 17-year-olds in most sports because of an inherent physical advantage that is more than just unfair competitively, but outright dangerous physically. Same thing here.
 

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What sort of man has to compete against smaller, weaker girls?



Not sure attacking the masculinity of a group of people who are actively trying to shed themselves of their masculinity is the route to take lol.

Full agreement on the end result though. If absolutely necessary just say Men's sports are the "open" classification and push them into it. It's ridiculous for a biological woman to compete with a man in most sports.
 

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Not sure attacking the masculinity of a group of people who are actively trying to shed themselves of their masculinity is the route to take lol.

Full agreement on the end result though. If absolutely necessary just say Men's sports are the "open" classification and push them into it. It's ridiculous for a biological woman to compete with a man in most sports.

Except that most of them aren't actually trying to shed themselves of their masculinity. They're taking the easy path to athletic success and hiding behind a false claim of thinking they're a woman in order to achieve what they never could against other men. I'm glad you agree on the rest, though.
 

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Except that most of them aren't actually trying to shed themselves of their masculinity. They're taking the easy path to athletic success and hiding behind a false claim of thinking they're a woman in order to achieve what they never could against other men. I'm glad you agree on the rest, though.
See a lot of people keep claiming this with no actual fact proof.

I can agree that the whole thing going on in sports with trans competitors just isn’t right. But I have a hard time thinking that they are all just saying to themselves, “YES! THIS is how I will win games, championships, etc!”
 

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See a lot of people keep claiming this with no actual fact proof.
Sort of like claiming you're a woman trapped in a man's body?

I can agree that the whole thing going on in sports with trans competitors just isn’t right. But I have a hard time thinking that they are all just saying to themselves, “YES! THIS is how I will win games, championships, etc!”
Oh, it's certainly more complex than that. It's probably similar to the stolen valor phenomenon. There's some false sense of glory, even though they know deep down they didn't earn it, but they're satisfied with the attention they get. That's a significant psychological issue in of itself. You see something similar with adults who dress up and pretend to be a superstar of some sort and prance & preen in front of the mirror like Buffalo Bill with a bottle of lotion and a sewing machine. They pretend to be famous or great or successful. There's some sort of pathological need for attention or the trappings and results of success even without actually achieving any real success. The need to win games or races against significantly lesser athletes or get praised and admired for military achievements you didn't earn is a clear sign of a major psychological abnormality.
 

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Kind of hard to really know if they are doing it simply because it offers and easier path to a championship. I guess if they never competed in the boys sport in HS prior to joining the girls team, it probably says they are.
 

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Kind of hard to really know if they are doing it simply because it offers and easier path to a championship.

Really hard for me to believe that a guy who doesn't believe himself to be a woman is willing to regender, take estrogen and other hormones, and deal with the societal/family/friend consequences of being trans all in order to potentially win at a sport where a large portion of fellow men (whose opinions you would presumably care about since you are a secret man in this hypothetical) dont view you as being a legitimate winner.

I think the much more realistic (and sad) scenario is that these people really do feel like women, and they want to compete. Unfortunately for them, they are an extreme minority and have a very real advantage that unfairly disadvantages the majority of their competitors. I think putting them in the men's category (which can be designated as "open to anyone who wants to compete") is the obvious play.
 

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I think the pause was telling. She also doesn't specify if they should be playing with girls, they should just be able to play which no one is arguing.
I’m fine with trans males (penis people) playing with the men. They can play, just not the other way.
 

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That’s basically what Louis CK said years ago about it.


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More like "Bill Maher openly admits HIS real position on abortion, and it's as vapid, mean-spirited, and attention-seeking as all his other opinions."

If only his mother had taken his advice
He’s a huge douchebag elitist. That said, I can give him credit for being consistent. I always wondered why some folks buy the “safe, legal, rare” tagline. Why rare if it’s not killing anything? Maher is like, “yup, I believe it’s killing a baby & I’m cool with it”. He should take Tosh’s advice and get promo deal with Dyson
 

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He’s a huge douchebag elitist. That said, I can give him credit for being consistent. I always wondered why some folks buy the “safe, legal, rare” tagline. Why rare if it’s not killing anything? Maher is like, “yup, I believe it’s killing a baby & I’m cool with it”. He should take Tosh’s advice and get promo deal with Dyson

I don't think there are many real Americans (aka people who arent just being douchebags on the internet) who view an abortion as a total moral non-event. There is obvious value in the potential life of an early stage pregnancy, even if you dont view it as a life. The snuffing out of that potential is something that shouldn't be lightly done. But many people don't value that potential over the mother's life, don't believe that a mother should be forced to carry a non-viable child to term, or think there should be exceptions for rape/incest. There are even more people who have different personal standards. Many are mostly concerned with the idea that they dont want DC/State politicians telling people what they can/can't do with their bodies or getting involved in incredibly personal healthcare decisions that are often in the margins.

I don't even necessarily agree with a lot of the above, but acting like more than 60% of Americans are bad faith baby murderers is really uncharitable to a complicated issue.
 

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I don't think there are many real Americans (aka people who arent just being douchebags on the internet) who view an abortion as a total moral non-event. There is obvious value in the potential life of an early stage pregnancy, even if you dont view it as a life. The snuffing out of that potential is something that shouldn't be lightly done. But many people don't value that potential over the mother's life, don't believe that a mother should be forced to carry a non-viable child to term, or think there should be exceptions for rape/incest. There are even more people who have different personal standards. Many are mostly concerned with the idea that they dont want DC/State politicians telling people what they can/can't do with their bodies or getting involved in incredibly personal healthcare decisions that are often in the margins.

I don't even necessarily agree with a lot of the above, but acting like more than 60% of Americans are bad faith baby murderers is really uncharitable to a complicated issue.
If the pro-choice movement was at safe, legal, rare, and to protect health/rape/incest- they would have more support.
I lost sensitivity to the movement when Virginia gov talked about delivering them and keeping them comfortable on the table before killing them. The movement (like the party) went far left from there to refuse any restriction.
I think the majority would be ok with a middle ground position, but those rarely work.
 

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If the pro-choice movement was at safe, legal, rare, and to protect health/rape/incest- they would have more support.
I lost sensitivity to the movement when Virginia gov talked about delivering them and keeping them comfortable on the table before killing them. The movement (like the party) went far left from there to refuse any restriction.
I think the majority would be ok with a middle ground position, but those rarely work.

As to the first sentence, they have the majority of the country's support, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I'm shocked (shocked!) that you're taking an easily debunked conservative meme taking comments out of context as a reason to cast the other 50% of the country as godless heathens. He was talking about how to handle a non-viable (aka the child is going to die regardless) labor/delivery and was saying that he wanted the government to stay out of the discussion.

 

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I was surprised to find out that the US is 12th in total abortions a year among 153 countries (~930,000 a year), but just 108th per capita. Still, I feel like that's a large number when you consider the vast majority of those could be prevented with a simple condom and/or the pill.
 
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