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Yeah anarin, saw the interview with the coach saying that. And that is pretty dang close. He has to get better. 9 TO's????? and missing on other reads and what not. BK is not playing to lose, so he will play who is best. But, I start to hold my breathe when Tommy is throwing now.
 
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kmoose said:
The point of the Tulsa pass is that he should never have been required to throw that ball. He was a true Freshman who had already thrown 53 passes in the game. His arm had to just about be jello. Yet, by Kelly's own admission....... Rees was told to look at the presnap alignment and determine if Floyd was going to be singled or doubled. IF Floyd was singled, then Rees had orders to just chuck it up and let Mike go get it. Kelly should have known better. He should never asked an 18 year old kid to throw his 54th pass of the game into the end zone, when he could have kicked the FG for the win.
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Hell, Moose, there are points for every game that was played....Crist threw a 95 yd. TD pass against UM last year only to have the D not stop Denard Robinson. He was great vs. Sparty last year only to have the D blow an assignment on a FG. How about Southern Cal last year? Rees did everything in his power to give that game to the Trojans. D played huge in that game. Point is this, everyone gushes about the 6-1 as a "starter", that's crap. His penchant for throwing the ball to the other team is going to start really costing this team. How many times can the D be expected to bail his *** out? I'm not making a case for either QB, I just want this team to start playing good disciplined football, and until Tommy starts displaying that capability, I don't want to hear about what a great "leader" he is. He's shown he can do it, his unwillingness to do it a huge problem for me. Another thing about last year, and let us not fool ourselves, had the D not stepped up and starting playing the kind of D that they're truly capable of, good chance Tommy woild have been1-2 as a starter last year.
 
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Hmm. The Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award narrowed its list of candidates for the 2011 honor today to 25 -- & ND's Dayne Crist is still on it.
 
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This snippet comes from a BGI freebie:

Pieces coming together for Rees

Sophomore quarterback Tommy Rees accounted for both of Notre Dame’s turnovers against Pitt, but settled in and delivered on a late-game drive when it counted most.

When asked if Rees recognized his mistake on a fumble, Kelly explained that the youngster’s awareness is a fault at times.

“Yeah, he probably would look back at it and say, ‘How did I fall for that one?’” Kelly said. [Pitt] simply brought a single linebacker up and showed as if a single linebacker was blitzing. Well, that doesn’t hurt our protection. But he’s so smart he outsmarted himself. What does he do? He changes the protection over there and they come from the field. Just a product of, ‘Hey, listen, you had the right protection out there, don’t get too smart for yourself.’”
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That ^ reminds me of my freshmen year in college. Halfway though the season, our coach sat the freshmen down and asked them to discuss their performance, focusing on one strength and one weakness. One of our worst defenseman said, my weakness is that I see the ice too well. I see too many options and don't know which one to pick.

*roll eyes*
 
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Ironman8 said:
Very good breakdown of Rees' Pitt game by Ryan Ritter:

ND/Pitt: Breaking Down Rees » NDtex.com
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Good analysis, but I think he overlooked the fact that Rees was nearly sacked on the Int in the 2nd quarter. I couldn't find a highlight with the Int online, but I'm pretty sure when Eifert got open Tommy was ready to make the throw, however he got hampered by a defender and had to move out and set himself again. He then delivered the throw after the defender had compensated to cover Eifert. Should the throw have been made? Heck no, or at least throw the ball to the outside as Ritter mentioned. I don't think it shows as much that Tommy put the ball in the wrong place, rather, it's displays that Tommy forced another throw to Eifert and didn't bother to reevaluate if he was still open after shrugging off the defender. It's more along the lines of his problem with locking in on his target than putting the ball in a poor place.
 
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I will say this for the record.

I don't believe TR will be the qb by season's end. My reasoning is simple, I don't think he is very good. I am just being honest. With the limited physical tools he has done a great job but he just is not good enough from a talent standpoint. I don't agree with Coach Kelly staying with him although I support his decision because I support BK.

I hate saying this truly but there are just too many throws he can't make.
 
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Jonas Gray engages after burners down the sideline.

Pitt LB : Where'd he go??!!
Pitt DB : Where'd whooooo go??!!
 
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Aerosmith777 said:
Yeah, but saying 6-3 isn't genuine either, b/c then you're disavowing Crist of responsibility for putting them in the hole to begin with.

And there is a big difference between coming into a game behind, and being the starter of a game when the opposing team returned a kickoff for a score. In the latter scenario, you're still the guy that got most of the first-team snaps all week and the guy your coach formed his gameplan around. In the former, you aren't. Rees came into those games playing from behind, after not getting the majority of the first team snaps, playing with a gameplan that was A. designed for Crist and B. probably had to be scaled back once he was in the game precisely b/c he hadn't been the first team QB all week.

I'm not saying his play in those 2 games are meaningless, but there're very good reasons that the QB who started the game is the one who gets credited with the final result. I can't look at him as 6-3. He's 6-1 as a starter, with play in two other games where he had some touble, but was STILL the reason they came back in at least one of them to make it interesting at all.
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I think MH should get a look but that's just me. Look, I like Tommy but it's not just about 6-3 . He obviously is just not up to snuff for our #1 qb. The Dayne thing is odd to me because he should be able to beet out TR in his sleep. That said he sure as hell had a short leash and TR has sure had a really long one. I know BK knows more than I do but I just don't see not giving DC another shot , his upside is really high still.
 
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DCirishfan said:
I think MH should get a look but that's just me. Look, I like Tommy but it's not just about 6-3 . He obviously is just not up to snuff for our #1 qb. The Dayne thing is odd to me because he should be able to beet out TR in his sleep. That said he sure as hell had a short leash and TR has sure had a really long one. I know BK knows more than I do but I just don't see not giving DC another shot , his upside is really high still.
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That's what I can't figure out, if BK had so much more trust in Rees...why not just play him from the get-go?
 
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I remain bored with the conversation.

You heard it here first...Tommy will have an excellent game. It will turn into more good games. This conversation will be moot in 2 weeks. We won't remember the thread.

(I hope)
 
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Anbody watching the MSU/OSU game see MSU QB Cousins on OSU's 25 just before halftime with no pressure, bring his arm back to pass and have the football roll out for a fumble and a turnover?

OMG! How could a QB just let the ball roll out of hand with no pressure?

How can a coach play someone who does that?
 
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Anbody watching the MSU/OSU game see MSU QB Cousins on OSU's 25 just before halftime with no pressure, bring his arm back to pass and have the football roll out for a fumble and a turnover?

OMG! How could a QB just let the ball roll out of hand with no pressure?

How can a coach play someone who does that?
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Cousins has 2 INTs in 4 games. Are you really comparing that to Rees.
 
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BGIF said:
Anbody watching the MSU/OSU game see MSU QB Cousins on OSU's 25 just before halftime with no pressure, bring his arm back to pass and have the football roll out for a fumble and a turnover?

OMG! How could a QB just let the ball roll out of hand with no pressure?

How can a coach play someone who does that?
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BGIF said:
Anbody watching the MSU/OSU game see MSU QB Cousins on OSU's 25 just before halftime with no pressure, bring his arm back to pass and have the football roll out for a fumble and a turnover?

OMG! How could a QB just let the ball roll out of hand with no pressure?

How can a coach play someone who does that?
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Same thing happended to the Penn State QB against IU today too. No pressure, just slipped out of his greasy paw.
 
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IrishJayhawk said:
I remain bored with the conversation.

You heard it here first...Tommy will have an excellent game. It will turn into more good games. This conversation will be moot in 2 weeks. We won't remember the thread.

(I hope)
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And I hope you are right. For real no doubt. I am not just trying to bitch and complain I just feel the way I do based on what I have seen.
 
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kuehnja said:
Cousins has 2 INTs in 4 games. Are you really comparing that to Rees.
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Reading comprehension is NOT over rated. He didn't mention anything about INTs, at all. I thought the same thing, when I saw the Cousins play. He's pointing out that people here have over reacted, at times, to mistakes that Rees has made, that happen to experienced college football QBs every week. But now Tommy has cemented his reputation as Turnover Tommy, and people on here want to jump on ANY T/O he makes, whether it's a dumb decision, or just a genuine fluke.
 
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