COVID-19

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The states with Covid-19 trends that worry experts:<br><br>- Arizona <br>- Arkansas <br>- Florida<br>- North Carolina <br>- South Carolina <br>- Tennessee<br>- Texas<br>- Utah<a href="https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa">https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa</a></p>— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1270790507531304963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[TorontoGold]

Found this tweet thread pretty interesting. https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1271110980542640130

Shows Florida's positivity rate is increasing (and, yes the positivity rate was increasing before any protests started). I forget who was saying Ron Desantis deserved a big apology for how "unfairly" he was treated in the media? Get it together Florida.

 

[Legacy93]

Found this tweet thread pretty interesting. https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1271110980542640130

Shows Florida's positivity rate is increasing (and, yes the positivity rate was increasing before any protests started). I forget who was saying Ron Desantis deserved a big apology for how "unfairly" he was treated in the media? Get it together Florida.

There are so many variables to balance when looking at COVID reopenings. I laid out what I believe to be the most important variables in an earlier post and I am most certainly overlooking important factors. However, included in that very same tweet string is the below. Although postitivity rates increasing isn't good, hospitalizations and deaths are declining in Florida. This isn't the perfect answer but I wouldn't say Florida needs to "get it together". Ultimately, I don't care about being "right" or "wrong"; I just hope people aren't mislead into a false sense of security (or fear) regarding the risks of COVID.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Though there's a rise in positives and the positivity rate since Phase 1 reopening started, hospitalizations (like deaths) aren't really rising much, either. <a href="https://t.co/h3PVXE1cfl">pic.twitter.com/h3PVXE1cfl</a></p>— Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1271117405151006721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Circa]

You guys licking the same toad?

I wish I was joking.

 

[Sea Turtle]

If your drive-by comment on George Floyd was your way of saying that race and income are key factors in Covid-19's disproportionate impact on minority communities, then you are correct.

You are also correct in mentioning NYC as a higher infection level, again in the poorer minority communities. For example Flatbush in Brooklyn (50% African American, 25% Hispanic)*has a 45 percent infection rate and the Soundview/Bruckner section of the Bronx (60% Hispanic, 40% African American), data shows 38% testing positive.

And the Navajo Nation (depressingly poor) has by far the worst infection rate per capita in the country.

In general, however -
Overall in NYC, the citywide average is 20%. Statewide, however, much less.
Cuomo noted on June 8 that only 1.2% of those tested outside NYC were positive.

But still around 5% nation-wide, as the Johms Hopkins and Covid19-Projections (a CDC validated model) numbers show - the data I noted above.

Your community, of course, will vary.

We can agree to disagree. I think millions have had this and didn't know it. I think many even had it before we realized it was here. I have worked with the public every day without vacation from the start of the year. Just south of Nashville.

I can't see how I haven't been exposed

 

[Circa]

Put the toad down Circa!

In all reality... You sound exactly like the mainstream media when I purport these weird oddities.

I don't know, and I'm content not knowing... It gives me the chance to try to come up with something I know as a fact. The mainstream media/government has been lying for over 40 years.

 

[Circa]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The states with Covid-19 trends that worry experts:<br><br>- Arizona <br>- Arkansas <br>- Florida<br>- North Carolina <br>- South Carolina <br>- Tennessee<br>- Texas<br>- Utah<a href="https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa">https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa</a></p>— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1270790507531304963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

N. O.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

N. O.

Thank you Circa. I was about to read the article with an open mind, but yourthought-out and well-explained review saved me that effort. Appreciate it!

 

[JurDocDuLac]

DublinIrish, thanks for the cite to this article. Interesting in light of Legacy´s comments that hospitalizations and test positivity rates are measures we should be looking at:

"...Raw case counts alone might not tell you much about a state’s Covid-19 situation. We would expect cases to increase along with testing. But if a state’s rate of positive tests is rising, or if the number of hospitalizations is going up, that is better evidence of increased spread..."

Interesting that test positivity rates are showing such an upward change in these state (NY is going down), especially since they are probably testing more (would expect it to go down as testing numbers go up).

It´s a good look at those stats from each state; will certainly be worth a look back at them in a couple of weeks to see if the trend continues up.

 

[yankeehater]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The states with Covid-19 trends that worry experts:<br><br>- Arizona <br>- Arkansas <br>- Florida<br>- North Carolina <br>- South Carolina <br>- Tennessee<br>- Texas<br>- Utah<a href="https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa">https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa</a></p>— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1270790507531304963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I am glad the "experts" didn't include my lovely state of California since we seem to top the list of new daily cases everyday for the last several weeks. Mayor Garcetti had the right idea. He closed every testing facility the first weekend of the riots. Even ones that were 15 miles from any protests.
No Tests = No new cases. What a strategy!

Oh and now Garcetti has asked everyone who participated in a protest to self quarantine for 14 days. LOL!!!!

 

[Legacy]

N. O.

Do you mean OANN? One America News Network

One America News Network (OANN), also known as One America News (OAN), is a far-right[1][2][3][4][5] cable channel founded by Robert Herring, Sr., and owned by Herring Networks, Inc., launched on July 4, 2013.[1][6][7][8][9] The network is headquartered in San Diego, California, and operates news bureaus in Washington, D.C. and New York City.

One America News Network (Wiki)

Its prime time political talk shows have a conservative perspective, and the channel regularly features pro-Donald Trump stories.[10][11] The channel described itself as one of the "greatest supporters" of Trump.[12] Trump has repeatedly promoted the network.[3] The channel is prominent for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[3][13][14]

OAN was announced on March 14, 2013 by Herring Networks, Inc., a family-owned national video programming company, which also owns sister channel AWE. The OAN channel originally debuted in partnership with The Washington Times.[15]

Google them - reporting such stories as:
- Hillary has brain tumor
- the White Helmets fabricated Syria chemical attack
- Trump campaign spied on
- Hillary's PAC funded Antifa
- COVID 19 originated in a North Carolina lab
- Dr. Anthony Fauci had funded the creation of the coronavirus
- mainstream media outlets were parroting Communist Party of China propaganda
- Martin Gugino, the elderly protester who had been brutally injured by police "was attempting to capture the radio communications signature of Buffalo police officers, linked the man to the Antifa movement
- major media players are consistently siding with foreign state propaganda, Islamic radicals and Latin gangs and cartels
- consistently downplaying Russia as threat to America
- Jenny Durkan the Mayor of Seattle is now caving to the demands of the Autonomous Zone

 

[NDohio]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The states with Covid-19 trends that worry experts:<br><br>- Arizona <br>- Arkansas <br>- Florida<br>- North Carolina <br>- South Carolina <br>- Tennessee<br>- Texas<br>- Utah<a href="https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa">https://t.co/FTtwizQQGa</a></p>— Dylan Scott (@dylanlscott) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1270790507531304963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

From the Article in regards to South Carolina:

The state is an anomaly on testing: Its daily average in tests has actually trailed off in the last two weeks, from 5,400 to 4,200. But its positive test rate has more than doubled over the same period, suggesting increased spread since South Carolina was on the leading edge of allowing some businesses to reopen starting on April 20.

I live right on the SC/NC border and I saw this coming. We live on a lake and as soon as the Governor relaxed the restrictions people came out of their homes in droves. The bars and restaurants didn't abide by the "outdoor seating only" rules and filled up. I don't think we are any where near our peak yet either.

 

[Irishize]

From the Article in regards to South Carolina:



I live right on the SC/NC border and I saw this coming. We live on a lake and as soon as the Governor relaxed the restrictions people came out of their homes in droves. The bars and restaurants didn't abide by the "outdoor seating only" rules and filled up. I don't think we are any where near our peak yet either.

You may be right. That will be exacerbated by the recent protests & riots which brings this country to a crossroads: do you want unemployment to double and eventually settle on 50% w/ thousands more businesses shuttering or do we come up w/ a compromise that protects the most vulnerable via quarantine and fight through the 2nd wave now that we have more data & best practice to accurately predict how to prepare the hospitals and minimize infection that leads to hospitalization? That’s to say there’s not an ideal option...but you go w/ the best of the worst. Evidently, this country is so out of practice at putting forth public policy that they can’t do it on a state by state & federal level now out of paralysis by analysis.


The protests & riots from the past two weeks have already contradicted those that will inevitably now reply to the above as “You want to kill grandma” or “I guess you’re ok w/ survival of the fittest”. If you are confident in your own personal health that you could survive COVID-19, then you proceed w/ life w/ the proper precautions. If not, you need to quarantine yourself until there is a vaccine or proven treatments that would prevent your risk of death. That could be years, but at least you have a choice. I’m pro-choice.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

You may be right. That will be exacerbated by the recent protests & riots which brings this country to a crossroads: do you want unemployment to double and eventually settle on 50% w/ thousands more businesses shuttering or do we come up w/ a compromise that protects the most vulnerable via quarantine and fight through the 2nd wave now that we have more data & best practice to accurately predict how to prepare the hospitals and minimize infection that leads to hospitalization? That’s to say there’s not an ideal option...but you go w/ the best of the worst.

... I’m pro-choice.

Excellent point Irishize.

I, like you, am pro-choice in this context, too.

But I am not pro-choice in other contexts, like blowing thru red lights, driving on the left side of the road or doing 60 in a school zone.

Respect others, respect your self, respect the virus

That is a EASY way to get through this until we get treatment/vaccines (which are not far away). It is not a permanent imposition, such a few months of personal discipline and care for others.

Wash your hands, wear a mask near others in contained areas, keep physical distancing, limit numbers in closed spaces (including restaurants), promote telework, suspend large group gatherings for a few months, temporary protocols for schools, testing and ad-hoc voluntary quarantines - all for a few months.

The virus will still spread, but under control.
People will still be hospitalized or die, but much less.

What is frustrating is that so many people REFUSE, BELITTLE (and ENCOURAGE others to refuse) to take basic precautions and do not care that their actions will spread the virus in an uncontrollable manner among those who do care about themselves and others

Respect yourself, respect others, respect the virus.
Pretty easy.

 

[irishff1014]

I hope Seattle's numbers go through the roof. Fuck those morons!!!!

 

[ARALOU]

I got tested this week. Negative. I would've bet my left mut that I had it. Couldn't breathe, weak, nausea. No fever though. Wound up that I have had a couple heart attacks. One Saturday night. One Thursday night. Luckily survived them. Now I am waiting in Cardiac Care in St. Thomas hospital for ultrasound today and another test Monday. May be a long week.

 

[Henges24]

I got tested this week. Negative. I would've bet my left mut that I had it. Couldn't breathe, weak, nausea. No fever though. Wound up that I have had a couple heart attacks. One Saturday night. One Thursday night. Luckily survived them. Now I am waiting in Cardiac Care in St. Thomas hospital for ultrasound today and another test Monday. May be a long week.

Wow, man. Prayers!

 

[TorontoGold]

I hope Seattle's numbers go through the roof. Fuck those morons!!!!

Rational take. I can only imagine the freakout if someone had said that about the lockdown protests.

 

[Legacy]

Excellent point Irishize.

I, like you, am pro-choice in this context, too.

But I am not pro-choice in other contexts, like blowing thru red lights, driving on the left side of the road or doing 60 in a school zone.

Respect others, respect your self, respect the virus

That is a EASY way to get through this until we get treatment/vaccines (which are not far away). It is not a permanent imposition, such a few months of personal discipline and care for others.

Wash your hands, wear a mask near others in contained areas, keep physical distancing, limit numbers in closed spaces (including restaurants), promote telework, suspend large group gatherings for a few months, temporary protocols for schools, testing and ad-hoc voluntary quarantines - all for a few months.

The virus will still spread, but under control.
People will still be hospitalized or die, but much less.

What is frustrating is that so many people REFUSE, BELITTLE (and ENCOURAGE others to refuse) to take basic precautions and do not care that their actions will spread the virus in an uncontrollable manner among those who do care about themselves and others

Respect yourself, respect others, respect the virus.
Pretty easy.

Excellent post, too. As a society, we have come a long way understanding this disease. The message is out there. Businesses have done the right thing despite the economic losses. When it comes out, the personal responsibility also includes getting the vaccine.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Rational take. I can only imagine the freakout if someone had said that about the lockdown protests.

Yeah, they're very comparable. Peaceful, non-violent, non-destructive protests vs. burning buildings, beating little old ladies who defend their property, taking over cities, and assaulting anyone who doesn't agree with them. Yeah. They're the same.

 

[TorontoGold]

Yeah, they're very comparable. Peaceful, non-violent, non-destructive protests vs. burning buildings, beating little old ladies who defend their property, taking over cities, and assaulting anyone who doesn't agree with them. Yeah. They're the same.

Got it, wishing a deadly virus on someone is ok.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Got it, wishing a deadly virus on someone is ok.

If it makes you feel any better, I'm OK with the rioters and looters catching dick cancer and suffering all the way to the end. Or with the military just shooting them on sight when they're caught assaulting people and destroying businesses. Or burning them at the stake for being little shits. Or force marching them into a crocodile infested river. Don't limit me to just a deadly virus for such lowlifes.

 

[TorontoGold]

If it makes you feel any better, I'm OK with the rioters and looters catching dick cancer and suffering all the way to the end. Or with the military just shooting them on sight when they're caught assaulting people and destroying businesses. Or burning them at the stake for being little shits. Or force marching them into a crocodile infested river. Don't limit me to just a deadly virus for such lowlifes.

Does that include the BLM supporters or just rioters/looters?

 

[Bishop2b5]

Does that include the BLM supporters or just rioters/looters?

Peaceful protesters, whether for BLM or any other cause, are well within their rights and I'd support them protesting and offer protection to them whether I agreed or not with their cause. Rioters and looters who are assaulting people and burning our cities down are violent criminals and have no regard for others' rights or property. Fuck 'em.

 

[Irish YJ]

Peaceful protesters, whether for BLM or any other cause, are well within their rights and I'd support them protesting and offer protection to them whether I agreed or not with their cause. Rioters and looters who are assaulting people and burning our cities down are violent criminals and have no regard for others' rights or property. Fuck 'em.

Amen

The amount of folks that normalize this behavior, or think it's OK to harm people or destroy people's livelihoods, is sick and twilight zone stuff. I assume they might have a change of heart if someone was to harm their family, or destroy their business. And what is sad also is that the whole country was behind the cause when the video came out, and everyone was supportive of peaceful protests. The violence and idiots hijacking things have diminished the unity and created divide.

 

[Irish YJ]

Looks like China is closing down markets and going into lockdown again.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I got tested this week. Negative. I would've bet my left mut that I had it. Couldn't breathe, weak, nausea. No fever though. Wound up that I have had a couple heart attacks. One Saturday night. One Thursday night. Luckily survived them. Now I am waiting in Cardiac Care in St. Thomas hospital for ultrasound today and another test Monday. May be a long week.

Man, wish you all the best luck. Get better!!

 

[Irish YJ]

I got tested this week. Negative. I would've bet my left mut that I had it. Couldn't breathe, weak, nausea. No fever though. Wound up that I have had a couple heart attacks. One Saturday night. One Thursday night. Luckily survived them. Now I am waiting in Cardiac Care in St. Thomas hospital for ultrasound today and another test Monday. May be a long week.

Prayers to you. Hang in there, and get well soon.

 

[JurDocDuLac]

I got tested this week. Negative. I would've bet my left mut that I had it. Couldn't breathe, weak, nausea. No fever though. Wound up that I have had a couple heart attacks. One Saturday night. One Thursday night. Luckily survived them. Now I am waiting in Cardiac Care in St. Thomas hospital for ultrasound today and another test Monday. May be a long week.

Wow! Two heart attacks. Thank the Lord you are in good hands now.
"Well sir, good news/bad news - You don´t have covid-19, but you had two heart attacks."

Our prayers for your health and recovery, AraLou.

 

[Irishize]

“Absolutely” sounds definitive.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/absolutely-no...s-airborne-b-c-health-official-says-1.4964156