Coup in Turkey

[BobbyMac]

The last couple posts fit with other reports I'm seeing on Twitter that MIT (the Turkish secret police) are resisting the military coup. That also seems to be why an attack helicopter (perhaps the one in that gif?) was shot down by a Turkish F-16.

They should have attempted this 10 years ago. They let the AKP get too strong. The AKP will hold onto power and Turkey will progressively move closer to a Muslim Brotherhood type society. At least here, the people are choosing it.

 

[Circa]

I was standing within 25 feet of their president in Louisville the day before Muhammad Ali,s memorial service. He left the city later that day because they wouldn't let him speak at the service. The news stated it was maybe because of his views on women and he had said the previous weekend something like; there place in the world was at home making babies. Now that all of this happened. Who really knows

 

[BeauBenken]

Curious about the population's view on this coup. That video showing them beating the sides of a tank would suggest to me that they are not that happy about it.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Merkel will take every person from the region except for a Democratically elected leader being over-thrown by his military. Oh the irony... enough to fill the Marianas Trench

I don't think you've read up on how much of a shady character Erdogan is, and his strained relationship with specifically the Germans lately.

Erdogan has been moving Turkey away from the West lately, reversing important secular leanings on some occasions and in all likelihood assisting ISIS. He realizes that the West needs Turkey more than Turkey needs the West, so he's acting on it. In previous decades (and centuries), they were afraid of the Russians. Not any more though.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Just waiting for Obama to do a press conference and blame Bush

Just waiting for ya to stop seeing everything through the lense of "Obama's role in it."

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Are we sure the military isn't just peacefully protesting

 

[BobbyMac]

I don't think you've read up on how much of a shady character Erdogan is, and his strained relationship with specifically the Germans lately.

Erdogan has been moving Turkey away from the West lately, reversing important secular leanings on some occasions and in all likelihood assisting ISIS. He realizes that the West needs Turkey more than Turkey needs the West, so he's acting on it. In previous decades (and centuries), they were afraid of the Russians. Not any more though.

That had nothing to do with Erdogan & the AKP's drift away from secularism. That was just a simple poke at Merkel.

You obviously didn't read my other posts.

 

[BobbyMac]

Are we sure the military isn't just peacefully protesting

Actually, that's what they are doing. Otherwise there would be 10k dead.

Erdogan called their bluff and sent the masses into the street. The military is in a no win situation. For this to work, they needed to arrest Erdogan and PM Yildirim and keep them from rallying the masses.

 

[nsisk157]

Appears the attempted coup is over. Erdogan vows revenge. Minimum 60 dead with 700+ soldiers arrested/surrendered.

 

[kmoose]

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It's a great sign, that they were working together. I wonder what they were studying?

 

[TDHeysus]

Just waiting for ya to stop seeing everything through the lense of "Obama's role in it."

I'm waiting for the Obama PC where he says, "if this happens to one of us, it happens to all of us."

Then promptly do absolutely nothing about it.

 

[dshans]

I'm waiting for the Obama PC where he says, "if this happens to one of us, it happens to all of us."

Then promptly do absolutely nothing about it.

And your suggestion?

Recccomendation?

 

[BGIF]

It's a great sign, that they were working together. I wonder what they were studying?

The life expectancy of failed coup participants.

 

[BGIF]

Erdogan Has Detained Over 3,000 Judges and Prosecuters

Erdogan Has Detained Over 3,000 Judges and Prosecuters

Turkey rounds up plot suspects after thwarting coup against Erdogan | Reuters

Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:12pm EDT

Turkish authorities rounded up nearly 3,000 suspected military plotters on Saturday and ordered thousands of judges detained after thwarting a coup by rebels using tanks and attack helicopters to try to topple President Tayyip Erdogan.

...

"They will pay a heavy price for this," said Erdogan, launching a purge of the armed forces, which last used force to stage a successful coup more than 30 years ago. "This uprising is a gift from God to us because this will be a reason to cleanse our army."

Among those detained were top military commanders, including the head of the Second Army which protects the country's borders with Syria, Iraq and Iran, state-run Anadolu news agency said.

The government declared the situation under control, saying 2,839 people had been rounded up, from foot soldiers to senior officers, including those who formed "the backbone" of the rebellion.

Authorities also began a major crackdown in the judiciary over suspected links to U.S.-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, removing from their posts and ordering the detention of nearly 3,000 prosecutors and judges, including from top courts.

Erdogan has blamed the coup on supporters of Gulen, who he has frequently accused of trying to foment uprising in the military, media and judiciary.

Ten members of the High Council of Judges and Prosecutors and two members of the Constitutional Court have already been detained, officials said.

...

 

[calvegas04]

Sounds like we should have supported this coup... but of course Obama is on the wrong side

 

[Buster Bluth]

Sounds like we should have supported this coup... but of course Obama is on the wrong side

I personally think the coup may be fake.

Either way, you don't support a coup whole it's on action. It either works or it doesn't, but you don't support one that looks so weak.

 

[kmoose]

I personally think the coup may be fake.

Either way, you don't support a coup whole it's on action. It either works or it doesn't, but you don't support one that looks so weak.

Why not? You either think it is right and just, and support it, or you don't think it is right and just, and you don't support it.

 

[TomHaverford]

it's a real shame it failed. Erdogan is a scumbag.

I say we just back Russia and let them destroy Turkey. Fuck Erdogan and fuck Turkey. Them ISIS supporting fucks.

 

[BobbyMac]

Sounds like we should have supported this coup... but of course Obama is on the wrong side

NO.

Erdogan IS a scumbag like Buster said BUT he and the AKP are Democratically elected.

You can't actively support the overthrow of a legitimate government put in place by democratic processes.

Freedom and Liberty must be earned, it cannot be given. The US does not own the reset button.

 

[BGIF]

I personally think the coup may be fake.

Either way, you don't support a coup whole it's on action. It either works or it doesn't, but you don't support one that looks so weak.

Is the Reichstag burning ... yet?

 

[NDRock]

NO.

Erdogan IS a scumbag like Buster said BUT he and the AKP are Democratically elected.

You can't actively support the overthrow of a legitimate government put in place by democratic processes.

Freedom and Liberty must be earned, it cannot be given. The US does not own the reset button.

Then what did Obama do wrong? Surely there is something we can blame on him.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Then what did Obama do wrong? Surely there is something we can blame on him.

Rush and Co have until tomorrow morning to figure it out

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[Circa]

Rush and Co have until tomorrow morning to figure it out

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That and the Facebook/Twitter. It's a damn shame on the incredible ability to think for ourselves.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

it's a real shame it failed. Erdogan is a scumbag.

I say we just back Russia and let them destroy Turkey. Fuck Erdogan and fuck Turkey. Them ISIS supporting fucks.

There is just not enough hatred and violence in this civilized world.


Leave it to the Michigan fan.

 

[Irish#1]

Authorities also began a major crackdown in the judiciary over suspected links to U.S.-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, removing from their posts and ordering the detention of nearly 3,000 prosecutors and judges, including from top courts.

On a brighter note, think of all those who won't have to pay their parking fines and speeding tickets.

 

[dublinirish]

it's a real shame it failed. Erdogan is a scumbag.

I say we just back Russia and let them destroy Turkey. Fuck Erdogan and fuck Turkey. Them ISIS supporting fucks.

totally agree. they failed big time by not securing media/communications :/

 

[Ndaccountant]

So let me get this straight.......
1) In about 48 hours, the government was able to get a list of 8,000 people (and counting) that were involved and then arrested, with a full "purge" of civil servants pending (not including judges already arrested).

2) The coup attempt was sloppy, especially if so many people were involved.

3) The rebels could have shot down his plane, but didn't.

4) The talk was to kill these 8,000 people (and more), including the US based cleric, if the US complies (which they said they would if evidence supports it).

5) The EU has no leverage at this point. They want "the rule of law" to prevail. Yet, this is looking more and more like an attempt by Erdogan to remove his critics while using the fragile state of EU security and his ability to unleash millions of Syrian refugees as chips.....and it looks like he is going all in.

 

[TomHaverford]

So let me get this straight.......
1) In about 48 hours, the government was able to get a list of 8,000 people (and counting) that were involved and then arrested, with a full "purge" of civil servants pending (not including judges already arrested).

2) The coup attempt was sloppy, especially if so many people were involved.

3) The rebels could have shot down his plane, but didn't.

4) The talk was to kill these 8,000 people (and more), including the US based cleric, if the US complies (which they said they would if evidence supports it).

5) The EU has no leverage at this point. They want "the rule of law" to prevail. Yet, this is looking more and more like an attempt by Erdogan to remove his critics while using the fragile state of EU security and his ability to unleash millions of Syrian refugees as chips.....and it looks like he is going all in.

yeah it just doesn't make sense.

Looking more and more like he staged it to round up the "traitors" and kill or imprison them all so he would have virtually no opposition and became even more powerful than he already was.

the guy was elected president. He's now a dictator. Who supports ISIS. Fuck him.