Clark Lea - Defensive Coordinator

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I really like the move. Is this the final straw with Elston? Even if it is I like this move the best, but I wonder how he's feeling?

Wtf does this even mean? Dude is already also the recruiting coordinator and assistant head coach...
 

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Siap, had there been any confirmation on Polian staying or leaving?
 

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Is he the recruiting coordinator? I've seen conflicting information whether its him or Polian

Sorry, he "was" head of recruiting. I believe they're in a "co" position now.

Regardless, he's the assistant head coach, Kuenhja is acting like Kelly stole his girl.
 

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being passed over for the dc position

Again, Elston is already assistant head coach, dline coach, and "co" recruiting coordinator. Lea is the one that "needed" to be promoted/bigger hat to wear. (Not mention, Elston has only had one year in Elko's system, so him "taking over" the scheme would have been a little more "indirect").
 
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Sorry, he "was" head of recruiting. I believe they're in a "co" position now.

Regardless, he's the assistant head coach, Kuenhja is acting like Kelly stole his girl.

He's been passed over twice now to become the DC. ND just brought in a guy who's a position coach (like Lea), and only been here a year, and they're promoting that guy. Elston's been here how long?

Maybe Elston is totally cool with it. But if you think it's silly to ask the question "will Elston be cool with it", you're probably not rational enough to be discussing this to be honest.
 

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Jeff Burris for safeties coach?

I'd rather have Demtrice Martin resume v. resume but it IS Jeff Burris afterall. Plus, do the man a solid and get him out of Waterloo. Hell hole and F*** UNI and their blow-up stadium.

Wtf does this even mean? Dude is already also the recruiting coordinator and assistant head coach...

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I think hiring Lea is the perfect balance of risk/reward.

There's risk in hiring a first-time DC, but that's minimized by scheme continuity and how closely he seemed to work with Elko over the past 2+ years. It's also minimized by the fact that we know he's going to recruit his ass off.

The potential rewards (defense improves again; recruiting stays hot; Coney and/or Tillery join Tranquill in returning) were worth taking a shot on Lea.
 

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I think hiring Lea is the perfect balance of risk/reward.

There's risk in hiring a first-time DC, but that's minimized by scheme continuity and how closely he seemed to work with Elko over the past 2+ years. It's also minimized by the fact that we know he's going to recruit his ass off.

The potential rewards (defense improves again; recruiting stays hot; Coney and/or Tillery join Tranquill in returning) were worth taking a shot on Lea.

This. Also, maybe he's the one that made Elko's scheme tick? (mostly facetious, but would be nice...lol)
 

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He's been passed over twice now to become the DC. ND just brought in a guy who's a position coach (like Lea), and only been here a year, and they're promoting that guy. Elston's been here how long?

Maybe Elston is totally cool with it. But if you think it's silly to ask the question "will Elston be cool with it", you're probably not rational enough to be discussing this to be honest.

Elston has already been "rewarded" for his "services".
1) He was retained through all coordinator changes.
2) He was promoted to recruiting coordinator.
3) He was promoted to assistant head coach.

Elston doesn't "know" this offense on the level Lea does (in terms of experiencing/teaching). Elston understands NDs direction was to "keep the ball rolling". He's also surely intelligent to enough to know that Lea is actually more qualified than he is to run this scheme.

Elston also knows he has been "saved' and "promoted" numerous times, and has been rewarded with "assistant head coach" because he is a more qualified, experienced leader for Notre Dame as a whole. (hence, head coach qualities, not neccessarily Elko's defensive replacement).

Mike has a hell of a thing going, and I guarantee that he could do "better" (eventually) than a DC (aka, Chuck Martin / Charlie Molnar type of head coach job)
 

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I'd rather have Demtrice Martin resume v. resume but it IS Jeff Burris afterall. Plus, do the man a solid and get him out of Waterloo. Hell hole and F*** UNI and their blow-up stadium.

I'll be the first to say I know nothing about Martin. Had to look him up.

Burris has a DUI on his resume.

Matt Caponi from WVU came to mind, but they run a 3-3-5. One thing I've noticed about the 4-2-5 is the DC typically coaches the safeties. If ND hires a safety coach, it's going to be a very important hire, and I don't see any reason why Lea would switch from linebackers.

So promoting Lea is big, but who coaches safety is pretty big too.
 
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Elston has already been "rewarded" for his "services".
1) He was retained through all coordinator changes.
2) He was promoted to recruiting coordinator.
3) He was promoted to assistant head coach.

Elston doesn't "know" this offense on the level Lea does (in terms of experiencing/teaching). Elston understands NDs direction was to "keep the ball rolling". He's also surely intelligent to enough to know that Lea is actually more qualified than he is to run this scheme.

Elston also knows he has been "saved' and "promoted" numerous times, and has been rewarded with "assistant head coach" because he is a more qualified, experienced leader for Notre Dame as a whole. (hence, head coach qualities, not neccessarily Elko's defensive replacement).

Mike has a hell of a thing going, and I guarantee that he could do "better" (eventually) than a DC (aka, Chuck Martin / Charlie Molnar type of head coach job)

Just never mind man.
 

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Elston has already been "rewarded" for his "services".
1) He was retained through all coordinator changes.
2) He was promoted to recruiting coordinator.
3) He was promoted to assistant head coach.

Elston doesn't "know" this offense on the level Lea does (in terms of experiencing/teaching). Elston understands NDs direction was to "keep the ball rolling". He's also surely intelligent to enough to know that Lea is actually more qualified than he is to run this scheme.

Elston also knows he has been "saved' and "promoted" numerous times, and has been rewarded with "assistant head coach" because he is a more qualified, experienced leader for Notre Dame as a whole. (hence, head coach qualities, not neccessarily Elko's defensive replacement).

Mike has a hell of a thing going, and I guarantee that he could do "better" (eventually) than a DC (aka, Chuck Martin / Charlie Molnar type of head coach job)

What above was incorrect?
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What above was incorrect?

Nothing. That could be his perspective.

But the other side of it is he's been here forever, Lea's been here one year, Elston has wanted the DC job in the past, and has now been passed over a 2nd time for a guy who's been here 11 months. Elston also knows ND better, the ND players better, and BK better, and probably has a pretty high belief that he can get the DC job done really well at ND.

Where I realize you're too irrational to discuss with, is when you respond to the question "I wonder if Elston is cool with this", with your "WTF does this even mean" comment.

Elston could easily be looking at this either way. For me to assume your guess is wrong is asinine. For you to assume my proposed perspective is wrong is asinine. Both are logical.

But you are asinine. So if that's your stone cold stance and nothing else could be true, again, just never mind man.
 
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Elston could easily be looking at this either way. For me to assume your guess is wrong is asinine. For you to assume my proposed perspective is wrong is asinine. Both are logical.

But you are asinine. So if that's your stone cold stance and nothing else could be true, again, just never mind man.

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Pretty sure you won’t find a more motivated guy than Lea, having been promoted to DC for the first time.

I am sure he will feel sufficient pressure to perform that will make him 100% committed. Kind of the exact opposite of a hire in the mould of BVG who already knows everything and doesn’t really need to work hard.
 

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Nothing. That could be his perspective.

But the other side of it is he's been here forever, Lea's been here one year, Elston has wanted the DC job in the past, and has now been passed over a 2nd time for a guy who's been here 11 months. Elston also knows ND better, the ND players better, and BK better, and probably has a pretty high belief that he can get the DC job done really well at ND.

Where I realize you're too irrational to discuss with, is when you respond to the question "I wonder if Elston is cool with this", with your "WTF does this even mean" comment.

Elston could easily be looking at this either way. For me to assume your guess is wrong is asinine. For you to assume my proposed perspective is wrong is asinine. Both are logical.

But you are asinine. So if that's your stone cold stance and nothing else could be true, again, just never mind man.

These are all good points..... and hopefully not strong enough points to automatically give the job to Elston.

If he wasn’t good enough 11 months ago, he isn’t good enough today. IMO
 

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These are all good points..... and hopefully not strong enough points to automatically give the job to Elston.

If he wasn’t good enough 11 months ago, he isn’t good enough today. IMO

I was just about to say that... If after 4-8 he wasn't the right man for the job, he shouldn't be the right man today. Not like he grew by leaps and mind as a coach in one year.. I love him as a coach but hes not the right guy to keep this going
 
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