Browns fans...

[IrishinTN]

They should man, you can’t validate gangland stomping on players because he hit your QB anymore than you could validate what MG did because MR twisted his helmet and kicked his balls. MG will miss anywhere from 2-4 games next year too. Only thing for me is Rudolph walking away like a total victim here,... QB league is right.

Agree and not sure Rudolph still doesnt get one game ban.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Well he's already been suspended for a MINIMUM of the rest of this regular and postseason without pay. But yeah, he's likely headed towards something unprecedented.

Seems like an oxymoron of sorts suspending a Browns player for the playoffs.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Garrett is tackling him as Rudolph releases the pass. There's no way for him to know if he still has the ball or not. Go watch the replay.

And if you want to complain about Garrett going for the sack with the game essentially over, Pittsburgh shouldn't be passing at that point with 8 seconds left coming off two consecutive sacks.

Ah yes, the unwritten rule of just taking a knee and accepting defeat. Kind of like telling a baseball player to not bunt late in the game of an opposing pitcher's no hitter. Come on man. These guys compete.

 

[NDRock]

Ah yes, the unwritten rule of just taking a knee and accepting defeat. Kind of like telling a baseball player to not bunt late in the game of an opposing pitcher's no hitter. Come on man. These guys compete.

Exactly, that's why Rudolph was out of line for simply getting tackled. No reason to try and rip MG's helmet off.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Exactly, that's why Rudolph was out of line for simply getting tackled. No reason to try and rip MG's helmet off.

If Garrett indeed didn't know he'd thrown the ball then I can agree w that. Goes w out saying thought the response was waaaay over the line.

Garrett should have done what the O Lineman for the Saints (who's name I can't recall) did when he ripped someone's helmet off and threw it as far as he could. 20 or so years ago? The head shot is just unthinkable.

 

[GATTACA!]

Ah yes, the unwritten rule of just taking a knee and accepting defeat. Kind of like telling a baseball player to not bunt late in the game of an opposing pitcher's no hitter. Come on man. These guys compete.

I agree with you. I'm saying you can't argue Myles shouldn't have gone for the sack because the game was basically over while also believing the Steelers should have continued to throw.

 

[NDRock]

If Garrett indeed didn't know he'd thrown the ball then I can agree w that. Goes w out saying thought the response was waaaay over the line.

Garrett should have done what the O Lineman for the Saints (who's name I can't recall) did when he ripped someone's helmet off and threw it as far as he could. 20 or so years ago? The head shot is just unthinkable.

Good call. Can picture that guy. Long blonde hair. That was pretty funny.

 

[NorthDakota]

Yeah I'd rather have a shitty QB than a rapist.

Not a surprising take coming from a yinzer though.

I have no idea what a yinzer is.

Edit: appears to be someone from Pittsburgh. Can't say I've ever been there or have any desire to.

 

[ACamp1900]

I have no idea what a yinzer is.

Pretty sure you have no idea what anything is.

 

[ulukinatme]

i dont think rudolph deserves suspension. fine for sure tho.

pouncey gets 2 games and appealed down to 1

Garrett gets told his season is over

Totally disagree with Rudolph. He instigated the entire fight, it began with him. Not only that, people are missing the fact that after Garrett pulls Rudolph's helmet off Garrett is being pulled away by a Steeler's OL and then Rudolph CHARGES Garrett which results in Garrett swinging the helmet at him as he's being drug away. If Rudolph walks away he doesn't get hit in the head and nobody is talking about this issue today. Two strikes on Rudolph here, and while neither of them are as egregious as the helmet swing, he's full of shit for pulling the victim card in all this. He should at least get a game suspension.

Haynesworth got 6 games for stomping twice on Gurode's head using cleats, Gurode was not wearing a helmet at the time of the incident. That resulted in 30 stitches for Gurode, he was bleeding profusely coming off the field. That seems pretty much in line or worse than this incident, but I'd still advocate for Garrett to miss the rest of the season and a few games in 2020.

 

[arrowryan]

Rudolph definitely started it but that certainly didn’t warrant MG taking Mason’s helmet off and hitting him in the head with it? I really hope Rudolph takes this to court and MG gets charged with aggravated assault or assault with a deadly weapon. Absolutely no room for that kind of stuff in the NFL. We thought Burfict was bad, Garrett seems worse.

 

[arrowryan]

Bengals vs Steelers
Browns vs Steelers


There's a common thread here, but I can't quite figure it out.

The two NFL teams in Ohio are a bunch of degenerates?

 

[ACamp1900]

Rudolph definitely started it but that certainly didn’t warrant MG taking Mason’s helmet off and hitting him in the head with it? I really hope Rudolph takes this to court and MG gets charged with aggravated assault or assault with a deadly weapon. Absolutely no room for that kind of stuff in the NFL. We thought Burfict was bad, Garrett seems worse.

Good luck with that,... ‘Yes, I tried to break his neck, I kicked his balls and then charged him and swung at him again,.... but he got the best shot in so put him in jail please’.... smh can’t be serious.

 

[arrowryan]

Good luck with that,... ‘Yes, I tried to break his neck, I kicked his balls and then charged him and swung at him again,.... but he got the best shot in so put him in jail please’.... smh can’t be serious.

Actually, Rudolph was probably retaliating to MG dragging him to the ground 5 minutes after the ball was thrown.

He was definitely using the helmet as a weapon that could’ve caused serious damage or even death. This would definitely stand in court.

 

[GATTACA!]

Rudolph definitely started it but that certainly didn’t warrant MG taking Mason’s helmet off and hitting him in the head with it? I really hope Rudolph takes this to court and MG gets charged with aggravated assault or assault with a deadly weapon. Absolutely no room for that kind of stuff in the NFL. We thought Burfict was bad, Garrett seems worse.

As if Rudolph didn't already look like a giant pussy.

 

[ACamp1900]

Actually, Rudolph was probably retaliating to MG dragging him to the ground 5 minutes after the ball was thrown.

He was definitely using the helmet as a weapon that could’ve caused serious damage or even death. This would definitely stand in court.

You should take the Mason Rudolph Challenge and test it out:

1.) go to a bar and find the biggest, baddest dude there.

2.) grab him by the neck and twist it like you want to break it.

3.) kick him in the nuts

4.) have your two friends restrain him while you charge him and nut punch him.

5.) see what happens before falling back ‘I’m pressing charges’

 

[ulukinatme]

Rewatching the Haynesworth head stomp, I honestly don't think Garrett should get a harsher penalty. For one, Garrett was getting drug away when Rudolph charged him and he swung his free arm with the helmet. In the heat of the moment I can see where you might try and defend yourself like that while you're being restrained. Secondly, he didn't break skin, unlike Haynesorth's attack that required 30 stitches. Third, Haynesworth's attack was well after the initial whistle and he was not locked up with anyone, he stomps on Gurode's unprotected head in an almost emotionless way.

That said, I thought back then that Haynesworth deserved a harsher punishment than what he got, and I expect Garrett gets a longer suspension than Haynesworth, but if you use that incident as a barometer I think Garrett's swing was clearly the lesser of the two attacks. Rudolph was not defenseless unlike Gurode.

 

[NDRock]

Actually, Rudolph was probably retaliating to MG dragging him to the ground 5 minutes after the ball was thrown.

He was definitely using the helmet as a weapon that could’ve caused serious damage or even death. This would definitely stand in court.

It's funny, I actually think it's worse because it happened on the football field. Up until the point Rudolph tried to rip Garret's helmet off, MG had done nothing wrong. No penalty called, nothing. So, essentially Rudolph started the physical altercation.

If this happened in the "real world" concerning a couple of guys on motorcycles with one guy trying to rip the other's helmet off (unsuccessfully) and eventually getting his ass kicked, they both would be charged. Most would fault the guy who started the physical altercation (Rudolph).

You can't say that Rudolph was justified in his response when all that happened was he was legally tackled. 5 minutes? C'mon. I've seen plenty of late hits on QBs and never saw one do what Rudolph did.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

They should man, you can’t validate gangland stomping on players because he hit your QB anymore than you could validate what MG did because MR twisted his helmet and kicked his balls. MG will miss anywhere from 2-4 games next year too. Only thing for me is Rudolph walking away like a total victim here,... QB league is right.

This is nothing in that regard. Rudolph is a nobody. Imagine if someone did this to Erin Fraudgers. Holy crap. The NFL might have executed Garrett before he could hit the showers.


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[ulukinatme]

Actually, Rudolph was probably retaliating to MG dragging him to the ground 5 minutes after the ball was thrown.

He was definitely using the helmet as a weapon that could’ve caused serious damage or even death. This would definitely stand in court.

You've never been hit with a helmet, have you? It's not like a club, it's hollow and it has give to it. It's not completely rigid. I'm sure with repeated blows you could kill a man with a football helmet used as a weapon, just like you could with anything else, but it's pretty unlikely you'll kill a man with one blow. Rudolph was obviously not too damaged by it, he first reaction was to throw up his arms in disbelief and not hold his head in pain.

 

[RDU Irish]

You should take the Mason Rudolph Challenge and test it out:

1.) go to a bar and find the biggest, baddest dude there.

2.) grab him by the neck and twist it like you want to break it.

3.) kick him in the nuts

4.) have your two friends restrain him while you charge him and nut punch him.

5.) see what happens before falling back ‘I’m pressing charges’

This is hilarious because it is exactly what happened. Whatever Garrett gets should be the minimum punishment for Rudolph. I would double it.

 

[ACamp1900]

This is nothing in that regard. Rudolph is a nobody. Imagine if someone did this to Erin Fraudgers. Holy crap. The NFL might have executed Garrett before he could hit the showers.


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I have no doubt,... lol

 

[BeatSC]

IF Rudolphph doesn't have a thick skull that overhead slam with his helmet could do some damage. Let's remember this is a QB against one of the more athletic freak DE's in the league who also happens to have some roughing baggage. Normally I am rooting for the hapless Browns especially when playing the Steelers but seeing this over the top action I am content leaving the Browns back on the manure heap they have been in for decades.

Picking on Rudolph here is like picking on your 10 year old brother who comes at you in rage when you are 18 and instead of neutralizing him you clobber him leaving him concussed. See how mom and dad decide to handle you after that one. While Mason was stupid to get angry while on his back under a person much larger and stronger than he is Garret should have remained cool knowing they had dominated and won. You'd although the Browns lost again. Maybe it was a conditioned loser reaction.

See him next year when the Browns make it to the Superbowl….again.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

This is hilarious because it is exactly what happened. Whatever Garrett gets should be the minimum punishment for Rudolph. I would double it.

LOL Wut? Rudolph should get double the penalty as Garrett? Did I read that right? Tell me the gin is hampering my ability to comprehend.

 

[Rack Em]

Browns fans in this thread need to cool it. Rudolph was out of line and deserves a 1-2 game suspension based on trying to rip off Garrett’s helmet. Garrett deserves at least a 16 game ban. It needs to be long enough that it could conceivably ruin his career. That needs to be the severity.

Pouncey should get a minor suspension that aligns with precedent for kicking a players head but accounts for protecting his QB and the uniqueness of the situation.

Kitchens doesn’t have control and this team is spiraling. The rebuild isn’t working so stop having sour grapes. It’s time for Herm Edwards.

 

[ACamp1900]

LOL Wut? Rudolph should get double the penalty as Garrett? Did I read that right? Tell me the gin is hampering my ability to comprehend.

Yeah, double is crazy,... triple sounds about right,...

 

[ACamp1900]

Browns fans in this thread need to cool it. Rudolph was out of line and deserves a 1-2 game suspension based on trying to rip off Garrett’s helmet. Garrett deserves at least a 16 game ban. It needs to be long enough that it could conceivably ruin his career. That needs to be the severity.

Pouncey should get a minor suspension that aligns with precedent for kicking a players head but accounts for protecting his QB and the uniqueness of the situation.

Kitchens doesn’t have control and this team is spiraling. The rebuild isn’t working so stop having sour grapes. It’s time for Herm Edwards.

It’s a thread literally titled ‘Browns Fans’ how about you go eat a dick?

 

[NDRock]

IF Rudolphph doesn't have a thick skull that overhead slam with his helmet could do some damage. Let's remember this is a QB against one of the more athletic freak DE's in the league who also happens to have some roughing baggage. Normally I am rooting for the hapless Browns especially when playing the Steelers but seeing this over the top action I am content leaving the Browns back on the manure heap they have been in for decades.

Picking on Rudolph here is like picking on your 10 year old brother who comes at you in rage when you are 18 and instead of neutralizing him you clobber him leaving him concussed. See how mom and dad decide to handle you after that one. While Mason was stupid to get angry while on his back under a person much larger and stronger than he is Garret should have remained cool knowing they had dominated and won. You'd although the Browns lost again. Maybe it was a conditioned loser reaction.

See him next year when the Browns make it to the Superbowl….again.

Rudolph is 6’5” 240. That’s a big 10 year old.

 

[GATTACA!]

Browns fans in this thread need to cool it. Rudolph was out of line and deserves a 1-2 game suspension based on trying to rip off Garrett’s helmet. Garrett deserves at least a 16 game ban. It needs to be long enough that it could conceivably ruin his career. That needs to be the severity.

Pouncey should get a minor suspension that aligns with precedent for kicking a players head but accounts for protecting his QB and the uniqueness of the situation.

Kitchens doesn’t have control and this team is spiraling. The rebuild isn’t working so stop having sour grapes. It’s time for Herm Edwards.

You're nuts.

What Garrett did wasn't even close to as bad as what Haynesworth did and he got 5 games.

 

[ACamp1900]

You're nuts.

What Garrett did wasn't even close to as bad as what Haynesworth did and he got 5 games.

I love the ‘the rebuild isn’t working so suck it’ comment,... they won 1 game in two years and just two years later have a solid base and have won 7 and 4 games and counting,... but it’s time to give up.

Go to the NFL thread with that bullshit. All day I’ve been pretty lighthearted and only thought Rudolph not getting suspended was bad,..