Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

[forkbeard3777]

There is "expressing displeasure" and then there is whatever this all is:




































There is more but I lost energy and was worried that the multi-quote feature would break at some point.

And…? All looks pretty spent on? Obvious anger and disappointment with the Ohio State ending and the pretty much the entire second half of the Duke game. Obviously, you’re cherry picking all the negative / angry posts as well.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Fuckbeard is a twat. He magically disappeared in the OSU thread when ND had the lead, only to re-appear when things started going south again. Keep doing God's work in exposing this douchecanoe of a fraud.

Did I? I don’t remember posting too much in the Ohio State thread. Maybe venting about Scrader missing that kick?

 

[Irish#1]

There is "expressing displeasure" and then there is whatever this all is:




































There is more but I lost energy and was worried that the multi-quote feature would break at some point.

Damn! You really do have a raging hard on for the guy.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Damn! You really do have a raging hard on for the guy.

No kidding. I’ve found my Newman apparently. For something that trivial, it’s kinda fun.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Honestly I just love the schafenfreude of Kelly at LSU at this point.

Fork can brag about winning the SEC west last year all he wants. Coach O won a NC and was still run out not long after.

Les same thing.

Fork we all know that winning the west is unacceptable in BR.

So don't come here whining when we enjoy Kelly being Kelly.

We all know what the guy is like and how he is.
Enjoy your 10 win seasons and losses to top 10 teams.

I perosnally hope he never wins a title and LSU falls back to their levels before Saban and he gets all the blame.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Honestly I just love the schafenfreude of Kelly at LSU at this point.

Fork can brag about winning the SEC west last year all he wants. Coach O won a NC and was still run out not long after.

Les same thing.

Fork we all know that winning the west is unacceptable in BR.

So don't come here whining when we enjoy Kelly being Kelly.

We all know what the guy is like and how he is.
Enjoy your 10 win seasons and losses to top 10 teams.

I perosnally hope he never wins a title and LSU falls back to their levels before Saban and he gets all the blame.

Ehh … sadly, for a lot of the fan base, we can go 1-11 as long as that win is against Alabama. It’s odd.

I also don’t expect you all to pull for Kelly at LSU. I understand and nothing unusual about that at all. I also think you’re spot on with the 10-win season / losses against top - 10 teams. I’ve said that multiple times.

 

[LSWho?]

I battled this earlier, and I realized this board can serve varying needs for different people, including fans who don’t put the Irish first. Football fans like Forkbeard just need to be able to take shit talk from diehard fans if they are going to talk shit. If he can do that, then IE is for him as well.

I agree. A good sports forum allows for fans of different teams to co-mingle. But there is also a decorum that goes with it. I suspect much of forkbeard's recent posting is a response to the hostility + joy expressed whenever LSU loses now that BK is coach. It makes this site seem hostile to him, because everyone is enjoying seeing LSU lose now. But that's what you are going to find when you come to an ND forum after BK left under the circumstances he did.

Damn! You really do have a raging hard on for the guy.

A sexual metaphor does not really explain the severe annoyance of seeing the same derivative, borderline unhinged point made over-and-over again in numerous threads. Obviously, "derivative, borderline unhinged" could be applied to many other posts after that loss, but at least in other cases there was a sense that it's a Notre Dame fan on a Notre Dame forum expressing frustration badly. Not so here. Here you get the sense the guy wants bad things to happen to this iteration of ND football, because there's more fun in concern trolling than seeing ND succeed.

Somehow I've been able to avoid posting on IE for nearly eight years, but his repetitive and weirdly personal comments against MF annoyed me so much that I signed-up to protest him.

 

[ulukinatme]

I think we have seen and read this chapter.

This is shades of 2011/2012 BK "Our players suck, it's going to take time to get better."

Manti and the rest:

 

[forkbeard3777]

I agree. A good sports forum allows for fans of different teams to co-mingle. But there is also a decorum that goes with it. I suspect much of forkbeard's recent posting is a response to the hostility + joy expressed whenever LSU loses now that BK is coach. It makes this site seem hostile to him, because everyone is enjoying seeing LSU lose now. But that's what you are going to find when you come to an ND forum after BK left under the circumstances he did.


A sexual metaphor does not really explain the severe annoyance of seeing the same derivative, borderline unhinged point made over-and-over again in numerous threads. Obviously, "derivative, borderline unhinged" could be applied to many other posts after that loss, but at least in other cases there was a sense that it's a Notre Dame fan on a Notre Dame forum expressing frustration badly. Not so here. Here you get the sense the guy wants bad things to happen to this iteration of ND football, because there's more fun in concern trolling than seeing ND succeed.

Somehow I've been able to avoid posting on IE for nearly eight years, but his repetitive and weirdly personal comments against MF annoyed me so much that I signed-up to protest him.

“Wants bad things to happen to this iteration of ND football…” ?

Hey Pal, everything you posted was centered around the final 3 or 4 minutes of the Ohio State game and essentially the second half of the Duke game. Many posts were in the game thread or a post-game thread. I want this team to play better. I want this team to be coached better. This team, in my opinion, is Playoff caliber worthy, but monumental coaching decisions and questionable calls may ultimately prohibit that. I apologize if the tenor resembles John L. Smith; however, I’m not going to blindly praise MF or give him a pass because he’s cutting his teeth as a HC.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Pretty funny l, but until you win something of note*, the joke falls short.

*Especially given that he won the West in his first year coupled with the fact that in the past 20 years, the following have won championships: LSU (3), Florida (2), Alabama (6), Georgia (2), Auburn (1). That’s just major college football or, the executive chefs and sous chefs are doing something right I suppose.

The joke fell how I wanted on this board, which is it's intended target. He hasn't won shit since getting his nicer "facilities". Winning the west ain't shit. If that keeps your dick hard, then please keep Kelly forever. We'll continue with the jokes.

Since you take umbrage with me putting my scope on Kelly, allow me to formally place my scope on your dome: GFY. Go talk shit somewhere else. This is an Irish football forum where we have enough to worry about with an anemic offense and two brutally close weeks with two more contested games waiting for us in successive weeks.

The last thing I need is some LSU-loverboy carrying water for Kelly after he put ND on blast. Kindly GFY.

 

[IrishLax]

The funny thing is the contrast between how Freeman and Kelly handle "accountability."

Freeman is down to like 3 healthy receivers... one of which is a true freshman... and you never hear him say a peep about their inconsistency, production, drops, etc. There is no "well ya know we're doing our best, but our WRs..." Kelly, on the other hand, is gaslighting the press about how his defense full of highly rated juniors and sophomores is "inexperienced" and "hey don't expect too much of these guys."

When ND fucked up with 10 guys on the field against Ohio State, Freeman was sure to say absolutely nothing about which player and which assistant coach(es) fucked up to put ND in that situation. It was all "me me me". Didn't even hint at who the party most responsible was. If Kelly was in that same situation he would've said "well, so-and-so handles to substitutions and what went wrong was blah blah blah... but as the head coach I'm ultimately responsible." That's the difference between someone who actually takes accountability and someone subtly deflects blame while feigning responsibility as the one "in charge."

I got a little hoodwinked by Kelly 2.0 but it's become crystal clear as more time passes since he left that he was on the precipice of a horrible backslide. ND would've been bad-to-mediocre last year with Kelly and they sure as hell wouldn't have made the roster moves necessary to be competitive this year.

 

[NDPhilly]

Freeman reminds me of when Andy Reid was the Eagles coach and would get fillet'd weekly by the media. Only response was "thats on me, i've gotta do a better job as coach". Media hated it, but assistants and players loved him for it.

 

[TorontoGold]

The funny thing is the contrast between how Freeman and Kelly handle "accountability."

Freeman is down to like 3 healthy receivers... one of which is a true freshman... and you never hear him say a peep about their inconsistency, production, drops, etc. There is no "well ya know we're doing our best, but our WRs..." Kelly, on the other hand, is gaslighting the press about how his defense full of highly rated juniors and sophomores is "inexperienced" and "hey don't expect too much of these guys."

When ND fucked up with 10 guys on the field against Ohio State, Freeman was sure to say absolutely nothing about which player and which assistant coach(es) fucked up to put ND in that situation. It was all "me me me". Didn't even hint at who the party most responsible was. If Kelly was in that same situation he would've said "well, so-and-so handles to substitutions and what went wrong was blah blah blah... but as the head coach I'm ultimately responsible." That's the difference between someone who actually takes accountability and someone subtly deflects blame while feigning responsibility as the one "in charge."

I got a little hoodwinked by Kelly 2.0 but it's become crystal clear as more time passes since he left that he was on the precipice of a horrible backslide. ND would've been bad-to-mediocre last year with Kelly and they sure as hell wouldn't have made the roster moves necessary to be competitive this year.

Kelly would have rolled out Sam Mustipher to blame him for being the 11th guy just because.

 

[IrishLax]

 

[Irishdrunk]

If we lock this thread, Foxbeard goes away..... He clearly has been bounced by LSU Boards.

No one cares anymore. I have stop caring for this guy too. Lock the thread and stop feeding the BK lovers. I think only an LSU fan remains.

 

[NDRock]

If we lock this thread, Foxbeard goes away..... He clearly has been bounced by LSU Boards.

No one cares anymore. I have stop caring for this guy too. Lock the thread and stop feeding the BK lovers. I think only an LSU fan remains.

Nah, let him stay. Just make him change his handle to Fuckbeard.

 

[Irishdrunk]

BK looks stressed. He knows his time at LSU is soon coming to an end. I think he probably gets another season but thats it.

Had he stayed at ND, he could have retired gracefully and been held in high regards. But BK is not built that way. He is more like Jimbo Fischer. Conceited and selfish.

So he will have money but no football home going into retirement. For those who tired of BK long ago - that will be your justice and karma.

 

[stlnd01]

BK looks stressed. He knows his time at LSU is soon coming to an end. I think he probably gets another season but thats it.

Had he stayed at ND, he could have retired gracefully and been held in high regards. But BK is not built that way. He is more like Jimbo Fischer. Conceited and selfish.

So he will have money but no football home going into retirement. For those who tired of BK long ago - that will be your justice and karma.

Damn, Drunk, if you’ve thrown it in on BK he is well and truly fucked.

I dunno. I thought he’d straighten out LSU’s weird culture and turn them into perennial contenders (if perhaps not champions). But his systems don’t seem to be working. That defense looks so bad and they’ve taken two bad losses and it’s barely October. Could be rough the rest of the way. And Jayden Daniels won’t be back next year.

All that for torching his reputation with the way he left us.

 

[NorthDakota]

BK looks stressed. He knows his time at LSU is soon coming to an end. I think he probably gets another season but thats it.

Had he stayed at ND, he could have retired gracefully and been held in high regards. But BK is not built that way. He is more like Jimbo Fischer. Conceited and selfish.

So he will have money but no football home going into retirement. For those who tired of BK long ago - that will be your justice and karma.

He'll be able to wipe his ass with C notes til he dies. Good on him for securing the bag

 

[bumpdaddy]

The funny thing is the contrast between how Freeman and Kelly handle "accountability."

Freeman is down to like 3 healthy receivers... one of which is a true freshman... and you never hear him say a peep about their inconsistency, production, drops, etc. There is no "well ya know we're doing our best, but our WRs..." Kelly, on the other hand, is gaslighting the press about how his defense full of highly rated juniors and sophomores is "inexperienced" and "hey don't expect too much of these guys."

When ND fucked up with 10 guys on the field against Ohio State, Freeman was sure to say absolutely nothing about which player and which assistant coach(es) fucked up to put ND in that situation. It was all "me me me". Didn't even hint at who the party most responsible was. If Kelly was in that same situation he would've said "well, so-and-so handles to substitutions and what went wrong was blah blah blah... but as the head coach I'm ultimately responsible." That's the difference between someone who actually takes accountability and someone subtly deflects blame while feigning responsibility as the one "in charge."

I got a little hoodwinked by Kelly 2.0 but it's become crystal clear as more time passes since he left that he was on the precipice of a horrible backslide. ND would've been bad-to-mediocre last year with Kelly and they sure as hell wouldn't have made the roster moves necessary to be competitive this year.

Here's another contrasting anecdote to add to the list. I don't think BK would ever fall on a sword for a player like this:

 

[kenthehobo2]

Pretty funny l, but until you win something of note*, the joke falls short.

*Especially given that he won the West in his first year coupled with the fact that in the past 20 years, the following have won championships: LSU (3), Florida (2), Alabama (6), Georgia (2), Auburn (1). That’s just major college football or, the executive chefs and sous chefs are doing something right I suppose.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Here's another contrasting anecdote to add to the list. I don't think BK would ever fall on a sword for a player like this:

Thats both good and bad. I think we are beyond comparisons with BK. But I get your point. Falling on the sword versus accountability is certainly a theme right now. From what I see, MF seems to be an expert at falling on the sword. Maybe not a purple face but perhaps a broken headset once or twice a season would be a nice touch and feel a bit reassuring.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Thats both good and bad. I think we are beyond comparisons with BK. But I get your point. Falling on the sword versus accountability is certainly a theme right now. From what I see, MF seems to be an expert at falling on the sword. Maybe not a purple face but perhaps a broken headset once or twice a season would be a nice touch and feel a bit reassuring.

I‘d much rather have a CEO that keeps their head as calm as possible in the heat. I never doubt that MF hates to lose and is ultra-competitive. You only have to go back to the locker room scene when he greeted the team after he was hired. Making himself and the staff accountable for everything that occurs on the football field is what true leaders do, especially in the public view. I can promise you that he and the staff hold the players accountable in their own way.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He's playing Army and Georgia State yet this year. Only two road games left too and that's Mizzou this weekend and Bama November 4th. Saban has probably been preparing for LSU for months.

I think two more losses at least left this season, maybe three.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I‘d much rather have a CEO that keeps their head as calm as possible in the heat. I never doubt that MF hates to lose and is ultra-competitive. You only have to go back to the locker room scene when he greeted the team after he was hired. Making himself and the staff accountable for everything that occurs on the football field is what true leaders do, especially in the public view. I can promise you that he and the staff hold the players accountable in their own way.

Well we lucked-out winning at Duke. I give Sam the credit. Hopefully they can find motivation because they didn't seem really motivated at Duke. Stupid penalties and awful play calling on the offensive side of the ball.

To me, I would like to see more fire from MF. Because the players like him- as was his entrance upon being named HC- doesn't mean they will be motivated for him or by him.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Just saw Kelly's post game presser. Wow ... the Honeymoon is definitely over. He looked like an onery old neighbor..... He looked uncomfortable and angry at the Press. Perhaps he should breath in and think about his bank account balance...that would make him smile.

He looked worse than he ever did at ND. I think he knows he won't ever get a Title...anywhere...... reality setting in.

 

[Irish#1]

He's trying every which way possible to keep his ass clean with those comments. Hiring guys he's had on staff before was the lazy way. He knows they won't question him or his ways.

BTW.......For anyone interested, MF isn't afraid to light it up on the sidelines. He did that to the refs earlier this year. His message is getting through to his coaches and players.

 

[NDdomer2]

look who disappeared and who is now arguing in here.

 

[AllTimeIrish]

Brian Kelly is getting exposed to an extent .. The SEC will eat him up in a way ND didn't.

 

[NDPhilly]

Not to be a Kelly defender but his 2 losses are on the road vs top 15 teams. idk how you can say the wheels are falling off at this point.