Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

[stlnd01]

What's really weird is watching a Brian Kelly team where the quarterback is the entire team. The opposite of our general experience for a decade.

 

[INLaw]

Again feel like we warned the corn doggies what was coming. Clear conscience

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

What's really weird is watching a Brian Kelly team where the quarterback is the entire team. The opposite of our general experience for a decade.

Give it a few years.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Give it a few years.

Not long before we start seeing 6-0 tall all heart RKGs leading LSU.

 

[forkbeard3777]

What's really weird is watching a Brian Kelly team where the quarterback is the entire team. The opposite of our general experience for a decade.

Well, our WRs are incredible. Nabers, in my opinion, is the best in the country. Thomas is damn good too. Daniels has become a really good QB, and Diggs has played very well — he’s just good at everything. A total utility RB. Our defense is the worst I’ve ever seen, however.

 

[ulukinatme]

Everyone is bitching about a win

And no one is talking about how BVG got a job again at LSU

Wait...for real? Last I saw he retired from college and was coaching HS. This was the last thing I found:

VanGorder was hired to revive the Stallions football program in December 2021, marking its fourth coaching change since 2019. In his lone season at the helm, the former Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator led Heritage-Delray to a 2-7 record.

The Stallions missed the playoffs for the first time since 2016, averaging a 31.5-point margin of defeat.

Ouch.

 

[irishff1014]

I think we have seen and read this chapter.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Well, our WRs are incredible. Nabers, in my opinion, is the best in the country. Thomas is damn good too. Daniels has become a really good QB, and Diggs has played very well — he’s just good at everything. A total utility RB. Our defense is the worst I’ve ever seen, however.

Agreed. LSU can arguably say they have the best WR corps in the country.

 

[forkbeard3777]

I think we have seen and read this chapter.

Not letting Kelly off the hook, but, for what little it’s worth, in early August he did say that this team wasn’t there yet and they were approximately a year or two away.

I thought he was simply trying to taper expectations, but apparently he realized just how piss poor the defense would be.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

What sort of facility upgrades are required to help this LSU defense galvanize?

Perhaps a swarm of sous chefs?

Seems like something is missing...

 

[forkbeard3777]

What sort of facility upgrades are required to help this LSU defense galvanize?

Perhaps a swarm of sous chefs?

Seems like something is missing...

Pretty funny l, but until you win something of note*, the joke falls short.

*Especially given that he won the West in his first year coupled with the fact that in the past 20 years, the following have won championships: LSU (3), Florida (2), Alabama (6), Georgia (2), Auburn (1). That’s just major college football or, the executive chefs and sous chefs are doing something right I suppose.

 

[Irish4life]

Can't wait for BK to complain about the trombones at LSU playing G# instead of A and THATS why he's struggling.

 

[RipWheeler]

Pretty funny l, but until you win something of note*, the joke falls short.

*Especially given that he won the West in his first year coupled with the fact that in the past 20 years, the following have won championships: LSU (3), Florida (2), Alabama (6), Georgia (2), Auburn (1). Either the executive chefs or the sous chefs are doing something right I suppose.

Yes you are correct…

 

[Irish#1]

Pretty funny l, but until you win something of note*, the joke falls short.

*Especially given that he won the West in his first year coupled with the fact that in the past 20 years, the following have won championships: LSU (3), Florida (2), Alabama (6), Georgia (2), Auburn (1). Either the executive chefs or the sous chefs are doing something right I suppose.

You know you’re on an ND forum right? If you don’t like the comments, you best not log onto IE, because his won’t be the last you won’t like.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Pretty funny l, but until you win something of note*, the joke falls short.

*Especially given that he won the West in his first year coupled with the fact that in the past 20 years, the following have won championships: LSU (3), Florida (2), Alabama (6), Georgia (2), Auburn (1). Either the executive chefs or the sous chefs are doing something right I suppose.

Foxbeard- did you get kicked out of Triger Droppings again?

 

[forkbeard3777]

Foxbeard- did you get kicked out of Triger Droppings again?

That’s not my go - to forum to be honest

 

[Irishdrunk]

That’s not my go - to forum to be honest

I know IE is your go to LSU Forum. Thank you.

 

[forkbeard3777]

You know you’re on an ND forum right? If you don’t like the comments, you best not log onto IE, because his won’t be the last you won’t like.

It’s not that I dislike the comment. I thought it was pretty funny, and admittedly, I’m not a Kelly guy. He’s pretty good, but not great. The OM result isn’t surprising. Kiffin can have them rolling offensively.

 

[forkbeard3777]

I know IE is your go to LSU Forum. Thank you.

No, it’s just intertwined throughout. The site literally has a poster with a user name of “LSWho” — like we’re rivals that play annually. It’s odd, that’s all. The two simply don’t play often.

Alternatively, the LSU-Saban hate is much warranted. At a bare minimum, he’s at least coaching a team in our same division.

 

[LSWho?]

You know you’re on an ND forum right? If you don’t like the comments, you best not log onto IE, because his won’t be the last you won’t like.

Foxbeard- did you get kicked out of Triger Droppings again?

This is actually the basis of my screen name. I have been reading IE for around eight years, long before the site transition. I enjoy the banter and analysis. I know Forkbeard has been here awhile. But the tactical faux sympathy, along with the expressed mock outrage against Freeman and Co. after the OSU game, had me pretty annoyed the whole last week. I had multiple messages typed out at various points subquoting him and pointing out what he was obviously doing: psychologically locating himself as if he were an actual ND fan to stoke the outrage of the least stable members of this fanbase + site. Then I deleted these messages because I don't want to be sucked into message board disputes and drama.

But since he has fired this up again, with no sign of stopping his concern trolling, let me just add how annoying it is to read a fan of another fanbase tactically aligning himself with the "crucify the coach" crowd in order to stoke the anger of the fanbase. The faux concern about ND after the 10 men debacle and the coaching miscues this year is more annoying than if he were simply mocking the mistakes. Opposing fans mocking these mistakes come with the territory of college football, but opposing fans pretending to be ND fans to make it seem as if Freeman and Co. personally offended you, well, that is beyond the territory.

One last thought: BK and LSU could hardly get the right number of players on the field at various crucial points against Ole Miss. That is fundamentally the same problem as having one too few a player at a big moment. Disorganization and bad process are embarrassing for a second-year head coach, but what does it say about a guy with 30+ years of head coaching experience?

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Brian Kelly will be inducted (at some point) into the CFB HOF

 

[forkbeard3777]

This is actually the basis of my screen name. I have been reading IE for around eight years, long before the site transition. I enjoy the banter and analysis. I know Forkbeard has been here awhile. But the tactical faux sympathy, along with the expressed mock outrage against Freeman and Co. after the OSU game, had me pretty annoyed the whole last week. I had multiple messages typed out at various points subquoting him and pointing out what he was obviously doing: psychologically locating himself as if he were an actual ND fan to stoke the outrage of the least stable members of this fanbase + site. Then I deleted these messages because I don't want to be sucked into message board disputes and drama.

But since he has fired this up again, with no sign of stopping his concern trolling, let me just add how annoying it is to read a fan of another fanbase tactically aligning himself with the "crucify the coach" crowd in order to stoke the anger of the fanbase. The faux concern about ND after the 10 men debacle and the coaching miscues this year is more annoying than if he were simply mocking the mistakes. Opposing fans mocking these mistakes come with the territory of college football, but opposing fans pretending to be ND fans to make it seem as if Freeman and Co. personally offended you, well, that is beyond the territory.

One last thought: BK and LSU could hardly get the right number of players on the field at various crucial points against Ole Miss. That is fundamentally the same problem as having one too few a player at a big moment. Disorganization and bad process are embarrassing for a second-year head coach, but what does it say about a guy with 30+ years of head coaching experience?

The fuck? Listen, let me make it as simple as possible for you — if ND isn’t playing LSU (which is rare), I’m pulling for them to win. There is no “trolling.” Expressing displeasure because your coaching staff can’t send 11 out there isn’t uncalled for or trolling.

You may disagree with me, and that’s fine, but sadly, I do not think Freeman is that good of a coach. At least not now. And trust me, I certainly am not the only one. I’m sorry if that pisses you off; however, . he often looks lost out there, and I believe my complaints are justified. There’s a reason why ESPN put him around 30 or 35 in its preseason rankings of coaches. There is no “tactical faux sympathy.”

 

[Irishdrunk]

The fuck? Listen, let me make it as simple as possible for you — if ND isn’t playing LSU (which is rare), I’m pulling for them to win. There is no “trolling.” Expressing displeasure because your coaching staff can’t send 11 out there isn’t uncalled for or trolling.

You may disagree with me, and that’s fine, but sadly, I do not think Freeman is that good of a coach. At least not now. And trust me, I certainly am not the only one. I’m sorry if that pisses you off; however, . he often looks lost out there, and I believe my complaints are justified. There’s a reason why ESPN put him around 30 or 35 in its preseason rankings of coaches. There is no “tactical faux sympathy.”

Okay it’s weird to have an LSU fan who is also is a fan of ND without being a troll. Or are you just a BK fan? It’s just weird to have an LSU fan here.

I used to like BK but I am tired of him now too.

 

[INLaw]

This is actually the basis of my screen name. I have been reading IE for around eight years, long before the site transition. I enjoy the banter and analysis. I know Forkbeard has been here awhile. But the tactical faux sympathy, along with the expressed mock outrage against Freeman and Co. after the OSU game, had me pretty annoyed the whole last week. I had multiple messages typed out at various points subquoting him and pointing out what he was obviously doing: psychologically locating himself as if he were an actual ND fan to stoke the outrage of the least stable members of this fanbase + site. Then I deleted these messages because I don't want to be sucked into message board disputes and drama.

But since he has fired this up again, with no sign of stopping his concern trolling, let me just add how annoying it is to read a fan of another fanbase tactically aligning himself with the "crucify the coach" crowd in order to stoke the anger of the fanbase. The faux concern about ND after the 10 men debacle and the coaching miscues this year is more annoying than if he were simply mocking the mistakes. Opposing fans mocking these mistakes come with the territory of college football, but opposing fans pretending to be ND fans to make it seem as if Freeman and Co. personally offended you, well, that is beyond the territory.

One last thought: BK and LSU could hardly get the right number of players on the field at various crucial points against Ole Miss. That is fundamentally the same problem as having one too few a player at a big moment. Disorganization and bad process are embarrassing for a second-year head coach, but what does it say about a guy with 30+ years of head coaching experience?

🍿 go on

 

[Irishdrunk]

For the record it appears that BK is the next Jimbo Fisher…. An overpriced HC that is a burden to his program. Unfortunately for LSU and TAMU, Texas and OU joining the SEC will make LSU and TAMU less relevant. LSU is no longer going to be viewed as a sure thing as it once was.

But you Foxbeard as an LSU Superfan must know this already.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I think we have seen and read this chapter.

If anyone wants to go on tigerdroppings and leave a link to the bk thread on here that would be much appreciated. Lol

 

[LSWho?]

The fuck? Listen, let me make it as simple as possible for you — if ND isn’t playing LSU (which is rare), I’m pulling for them to win. There is no “trolling.” Expressing displeasure because your coaching staff can’t send 11 out there isn’t uncalled for or trolling.

There is "expressing displeasure" and then there is whatever this all is:

His response in the press conference was so disturbing. He said he was aware they only had 10, but didn’t want to rush a player on and get a penalty. What would it be, 1/2 a yard Marcus…?

Also, didn’t ND call timeout before one of the two “10 man” plays (emphasis added) too? How on Earth does that happen? I just don’t see how you can ever overlook this.

I said it last night, and I’ll say it again, ND had no business losing that game. The coaching staff lost that game, and it starts at the top.

Freeman…Gerad…you’re making Orgeron look like Oppenheimer

You had 10 guys on the field on the last play. Also, you run the ball once or twice on your last drive and you win.

Can you start with the head coach

you run the ball once on your last possession and you win

Dude, you had 10 men on the field. You didn’t have a DE. Ohio State ran it right where the missing player was. That is utterly inexcusable. And that was coming out after a timeout. That is Pop Warner level b.s.

On 3rd and 19, you only rush 3 players, and drop 7 or 8 (unfortunately, this is something that you have to look and verify…) into coverage. First down. You’ve been getting after his ass all day. Whythe f*** do you all of a sudden drop and play soft zone? Colorado State did the same thing against CU…changed its defensive philosophy to a bend and don’t break defense and Sanders marched CU 96+ yards down the field in 60 seconds or so to tie the game. Again, why change your philosophy?

On your last drive, instead of trying to bleed the clock, you get cute and waste barely any time. A couple of knees to kill the clock and you win.

I get you probably love MF and think he looks “fresh” in his ND gear, but that was a coaching failure.

ETA: and I agree that players have to make the plays. Shrader needs to make that kick. Hartman needs to get that first. Whoever the DB was needs to make that pick. However, you had many players out there, many players you likely didn’t expect too much (Mitchell Evans for example) play their asses off and made big, critical plays. The entire team isn’t always going to play flawlessly….the team and players showed up. The fans showed up. The coaches, however, didn’t.

Yep. Whenever the press conference is (Monday, I presume?), I’d make the HC, DC, and DL coach explain this. They all, collectively, need to sit at the podium and be accountable. They need to be raked over the coals for this.

ETA: Savy Jack, too — fucking douchebag. Fuck I’m angry. More so than last night

I don’t want to get into a whole BK vs MF thing, but I don’t know how you can say that at this point. You may hate him, but Kelly had a NC appearance and 2 Playoff appearances. Point being, it’s way too early in MF’s career. He’s still largely an unknown at this point. There are some things to be optimistic and happy about, others…well…you know…

"And I thought maybe they would do the same thing they did the snap before, and then they ended up running the ball," he added. "So I got to watch the play and see where the ball hit. But yeah, that's why that I made that decision."

Really…? The same play?

If ND loses this game (MF trying to get on the bus)

Uhhh…that was a Les Miles or Derek Dooley type mistake. Both were fired and are now doing jack shit (Dooley might be an analyst or something somewhere, but that’s it).

Knowingly playing with 10 guys, on the goal line, and after a timeout….I mean, look, you’re just not going to spin it as a typical “stupid coaching decision” or a blunder. It’s one of the bigger f-ups I’ve seen in a long, long time. Even Texas high school chap he’s here in Houston don’t make those kind of mistakes. To do it at that level, Jesus. That shit rolls uphill (to Freeman, to Swarbrick, etc.)

Saban had what 5 or 6 NCs under his belt at that time? When Freeman can pull that off, he’ll get the benefit of the doubt, until then, work on getting 11 on the field…

God, if true, I’d rather “Coach Driskell” make the calls 😂😂😂

ND will win, but Elko will coach circles around “Boy Blunder.”

I blame him for the defensive meltdown in the end. He's a defensive guy - he played linebacker at a blueblood school and in the NFL. He was a grad assistant at Ohio State. He was a linebackers coach at Kent State. He's been a co-defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at Purdue and Cincinnati. Prior to being named head coach, he was the sole defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at Notre Dame. Point being, the 10-man debacle is on him and his defensive staff. He's been in the game - especially with the defensive units - long enough that he should know what to do and how to run the defensive unit with efficiency. To not have a defensive lineman in while on the goal line is just mind boggling. I never bought is excuse / reasoning either - I don't think anyone had a clue (or, at least it wasn't relayed in time) until after Ohio State scored, maybe until the end of the game - to not know something arguably sounds worse.

Oh yeah, and this....




I do not blame him for the offense, though. Look, call a spade a spade. He didn't want GP as his OC. We all know he tried his best to get Lugwig, an elite hire. The hire ups got in the way and botched that deal.

Freeman sucks

Freeman's a bum

Duke is about to shove it down ND's throat and assert their will. All the while, Freeman will be on the sideline "looking fly" in his gear wondering if they have 9, 10, 11, or maybe even 12 on the field.

Absolutely. Freeman could play 9 on defense, and this team would still go undefeated in its regular season.

There is more but I lost energy and was worried that the multi-quote feature would break at some point.

 

[sfk324]

This is actually the basis of my screen name. I have been reading IE for around eight years, long before the site transition. I enjoy the banter and analysis. I know Forkbeard has been here awhile. But the tactical faux sympathy, along with the expressed mock outrage against Freeman and Co. after the OSU game, had me pretty annoyed the whole last week. I had multiple messages typed out at various points subquoting him and pointing out what he was obviously doing: psychologically locating himself as if he were an actual ND fan to stoke the outrage of the least stable members of this fanbase + site. Then I deleted these messages because I don't want to be sucked into message board disputes and drama.

But since he has fired this up again, with no sign of stopping his concern trolling, let me just add how annoying it is to read a fan of another fanbase tactically aligning himself with the "crucify the coach" crowd in order to stoke the anger of the fanbase. The faux concern about ND after the 10 men debacle and the coaching miscues this year is more annoying than if he were simply mocking the mistakes. Opposing fans mocking these mistakes come with the territory of college football, but opposing fans pretending to be ND fans to make it seem as if Freeman and Co. personally offended you, well, that is beyond the territory.

One last thought: BK and LSU could hardly get the right number of players on the field at various crucial points against Ole Miss. That is fundamentally the same problem as having one too few a player at a big moment. Disorganization and bad process are embarrassing for a second-year head coach, but what does it say about a guy with 30+ years of head coaching experience?

Yep. Two illegal substitution penalties on consecutive plays when Ole Miss was making their comeback. But they got declined because Ole Miss didn't need to take them. And nobody gives a shit today because their problems are so much bigger than that.

 

[sfk324]

There is "expressing displeasure" and then there is whatever this all is:




































There is more but I lost energy and was worried that the multi-quote feature would break at some point.

Fuckbeard is a twat. He magically disappeared in the OSU thread when ND had the lead, only to re-appear when things started going south again. Keep doing God's work in exposing this douchecanoe of a fraud.

 

[FWIrish4]

There is "expressing displeasure" and then there is whatever this all is:




































There is more but I lost energy and was worried that the multi-quote feature would break at some point.