Brady Hoke to ND (Rumor)

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He didn't say he wouldn't take another position here though.

Sounds to me like talks were had and things were positive, but Kelly is only offering him a DL job and Hoke feels a bit disrespected by just another position job.
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Am I the only one who reads that tweet as "I'm going to Notre Dame but not as the DL coach"?
 

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wouldn't surprise me to wait until the hire of elston is a done deal and then hire hoke...his tweet was very specific as someone noted...there was def smoke as even he indicated....i bet some semantics need worked on
 

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If this happens, I'm guessing he becomes the DL coach and assistant DC.
 

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If this happens, I'm guessing he becomes the DL coach and assistant DC.

It might all be contingent on what Elston does. While many coaching changes wait for signing day to be announced, there is no way Central Michigan would hire a HC and then wait for today to announce it - they would want a guy in place for recruits if they have made a decision. So I assume that process is still ongoing.
 

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Why all the Elston hate? DL has arguably been ND's strongest position group since he's been here. It's not like the Irish had real 4-3 DEs on the roster this past season and the DTs were a true strength.
 

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wouldn't surprise me to wait until the hire of elston is a done deal and then hire hoke...his tweet was very specific as someone noted...there was def smoke as even he indicated....i bet some semantics need worked on

I think this fits the tweets from Hayes and Zaire. Hayes would be losing his position coach; Zaire would be commenting on losing Cooks and Elston in a short span.
 

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I think this fits the tweets from Hayes and Zaire. Hayes would be losing his position coach; Zaire would be commenting on losing Cooks and Elston in a short span.

Keith arnold tweeted his own baseless speculation that perhaps LaFleur is going to Atlanta as QB coach for their new OC Kyle Shanahan.
 

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OK so clearly there was discussions and something happened in the hours after this leaked to make him back off of it. Bummer.

I doubt a rumor starting would cause him to back out. My guess is he doesn't want anything less than an AHC or coordinator position.
 
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Keith also tweeted that the kid that wants to be the next starting QB at ND (Malik) shouldn't be airing ND's laundry on Twitter. In response to Lefty's tweet about changes before they are announced (referring to LaFleur).
 

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Yeah, Keith did not hold anything back in criticizing Zaire there.
 

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I doubt a rumor starting would cause him to back out. My guess is he doesn't want anything less than an AHC or coordinator position.

That's not what I meant. Rumors themselves don't make people change direction (see: Cooks), but reaction to rumors does (see: external/internal pressures, contract stuff, etc.). It's why a lot of people use rumors for leverage.

Mike Frank said this did have legs, and then squashed it before Sam Webb tweeted saying it probably wasn't going to happen. There are so many things that could be a factor and were being negotiated... buyout, title, etc.

It's certainly weird how all this played out on NSD of all days.
 

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That's not what I meant. Rumors themselves don't make people change direction (see: Cooks), but reaction to rumors does (see: external/internal pressures, contract stuff, etc.). It's why a lot of people use rumors for leverage.

Mike Frank said this did have legs, and then squashed it before Sam Webb tweeted saying it probably wasn't going to happen. There are so many things that could be a factor and were being negotiated... buyout, title, etc.

It's certainly weird how all this played out on NSD of all days.

That's why I think there's more to this than some might think. There are going to be bigger splashes than just the kids we sign today.
 

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Keith also tweeted that the kid that wants to be the next starting QB at ND (Malik) shouldn't be airing ND's laundry on Twitter. In response to Lefty's tweet about changes before they are announced (referring to LaFleur).

Do you always refer to yourself in third person?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brady Hoke on CBS Sports Network: "I am not going to South Bend. It's time to go South a little bit. Not South Bend."</p>— Jon Solomon (@JonSolomonCBS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonSolomonCBS/status/563004796907843586">February 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Weird. This was one of those rumors that I believed because I figured it was so implausible that it couldn't have taken hold at all if it weren't true. Shows how much I know.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>There's so many changes in the offseason it sucks. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nextmanin?src=hash">#nextmanin</a></p>— Malik Zaire (@LuckyLefty8) <a href="https://twitter.com/LuckyLefty8/status/562994221117112322">February 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Who knows? Considering our history, 85% chance it's nothing, 14% chance Brian Kelly has been implicated in the Aaron Hernandez murder trial, 1% chance that Notre Dame sold itself to Opus Dei as its new US headquarters.

Jesus, ND admiration probably just implemented a new policy that requires our athletes to speak brail.
 

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That's not what I meant. Rumors themselves don't make people change direction (see: Cooks), but reaction to rumors does (see: external/internal pressures, contract stuff, etc.). It's why a lot of people use rumors for leverage.

Mike Frank said this did have legs, and then squashed it before Sam Webb tweeted saying it probably wasn't going to happen. There are so many things that could be a factor and were being negotiated... buyout, title, etc.

It's certainly weird how all this played out on NSD of all days.

Agree....I think that's what squashed it.
 

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Had to be some smoke there. But yeah, lots of moving pieces. Odd that it comes out the morning of NSD, but I guess a lot of coaches talking to a lot of reporters this week and someone mentioned something.
 

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Hey if this is our NSD yearly surprise about Hoke, no complaints by me! At least we hung on to our players.
 
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