All Things Star Wars (No Spoilers)

[gkIrish]

Beautiful movie with just the right amount of references to other episodes. Vader was perfect and that last scene with him might have been an all time top 5 scene.

Character development for Cassian and the Asian dudes was lacking but otherwise not many complaints.

 

[aubeirish]

I'm getting pretty excited about seeing it now. You guys are usually very critical of things.

 

[Cackalacky]

I started a new star wars spoiler thread to discuss and keep spoilers out of here.

 

[arrowryan]

Call me stupid, but I had no idea how Rogue One fit into the other movies until the very end. My main thought while watching was "well, Vader is in the previews so this can't really be associated with the trilogy that is being made right now so how will this be related to the other movies?".

I'd give the movie a solid B or 7.5/10. The first half was a little too slow for me. But I liked the action in the second half.

 

[dublinirish]

Carrie Fisher Dead: 'Star Wars' Actress Was 60 | Hollywood Reporter

RIP

 

[zelezo vlk]

Damn

 

[Cackalacky]

Screw you 2016

 

[gkIrish]

Fuck this year, for real.

 

[gkIrish]

RIP, Your Worshipfulness

 

[greyhammer90]

RIP Ms. Fisher.

 

[gkIrish]

Not to be insensitive, but they are going to have to kill Leia off in Episode VIII now, right? Maybe something off-camera.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Not to be insensitive, but they are going to have to kill Leia off in Episode VIII now, right? Maybe something off-camera.

Hologram Tupac style.

 

[Cackalacky]

They have proven they can do full body CGI.

 

[GATTACA!]

Not to be insensitive, but they are going to have to kill Leia off in Episode VIII now, right? Maybe something off-camera.

8 is already done shooting. I'd guess they would kill her off in 9.

 

[gkIrish]

They have proven they can do full body CGI.

But it would be weird to do CGI for a death scene w/emotion and all that. I would rather they just do something off-camera or do a death where you don't need to see a close-up of her face.

 

[Cackalacky]

But it would be weird to do CGI for a death scene w/emotion and all that. I would rather they just do something off-camera or do a death where you don't need to see a close-up of her face.

Well what i mean is they would not necessarily need to kill her off depending on how important she is in the next two movies.

 

[GATTACA!]

But it would be weird to do CGI for a death scene w/emotion and all that. I would rather they just do something off-camera or do a death where you don't need to see a close-up of her face.

I mean she's dead either way. At least doing it in 9 gives them 3 years to figure it out instead of less than 1 to alter a movie that's already shot.

 

[calvegas04]

8 is already done shooting. I'd guess they would kill her off in 9.

I would think they would still have reshoots and voice overs left

 

[IrishLion]

Hologram Tupac style.

To combine this and the other things being discussed, they could show Leia meeting her demise via hologram... Luke and whoever are watching a transmission from the Resistance, only for the transmission to show a disaster.

It would create a conflict within the story, while eliminating weird reshoot/editing issues and avoiding the need for more CGI characters.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Never mind everyone. They found the perfect double.

 

[gkIrish]

To combine this and the other things being discussed, they could show Leia meeting her demise via hologram... Luke and whoever are watching a transmission from the Resistance, only for the transmission to show a disaster.

It would create a conflict within the story, while eliminating weird reshoot/editing issues and avoiding the need for more CGI characters.

Yeah this is what I would to see rather than a CGI death. It would also bring her story full circle because we were basically introduced to her via a hologram.

 

[greyhammer90]

I guess, in my mind, the question is more focused on does Leia really need to be in the story anymore? Why not just say that the death of Han at the hands of her son caused her to leave the Resistance and disappear out of grief?

Han seemed like he was supposed to die in Episode VII, and his death added a good amount of weight to the story. However, I would not have been in favor of his being killed just to explain an absence of Harrison Ford. There are plenty of other ways to do that. Killing off a member of the original Falcon crew gang should be done with care and mind toward telling a good story, not just to explain their absence.

Think how tonally weird it would be to have Leia be killed offscreen or via a hologram in the original trilogy. If they had done that to Han Solo or Luke Skywalker in Episode VII people would have rioted. The only reason why it seems like a good idea to you guys now is because Carrie Fisher just died less than 24 hours ago. It would look sloppy and be a really underwhelming end to one of the best scifi women ever.

 

[Cackalacky]

I guess, in my mind, the question is more focused on does Leia really need to be in the story anymore? Why not just say that the death of Han at the hands of her son caused her to leave the Resistance and disappear out of grief?

Han seemed like he was supposed to die in Episode VII, and his death added a good amount of weight to the story. However, I would not have been in favor of his being killed just to explain an absence of Harrison Ford. There are plenty of other ways to do that. Killing off a member of the original Falcon crew gang should be done with care and mind toward telling a good story, not just to explain their absence.

Think how tonally weird it would be to have Leia be killed offscreen or via a hologram in the original trilogy. If they had done that to Han Solo or Luke Skywalker in Episode VII people would have rioted. The only reason why it seems like a good idea to you guys now is because Carrie Fisher just died less than 24 hours ago. It would look sloppy and be a really underwhelming end to one of the best scifi women ever.

Agree. From the moment we first met her she was heavily involved in the fight. She lost her entire planet, her father (not known that she was adopted or had a brother) and family, and became an integral part of the Rebellion. Going so far as to become a general, finding out her father is the a homicidal pitbull and one of the worst MF'ers in the history of their universe and finding out she kissed her real brother. Skip thirty years and she is still a general and still fighting, she married a scoundrel and had a son that wrecks her brothers jedi school and falls to the dark side and kills her scoundrel husband who had left her years before. Her brother abandoned her as well leaving her to mount a rebellion with literally zero help. She is probably one of the great tragic movie characters we know and killing her off should be reflective of her history and character arc.

 

[gkIrish]

I guess, in my mind, the question is more focused on does Leia really need to be in the story anymore? Why not just say that the death of Han at the hands of her son caused her to leave the Resistance and disappear out of grief?

Han seemed like he was supposed to die in Episode VII, and his death added a good amount of weight to the story. However, I would not have been in favor of his being killed just to explain an absence of Harrison Ford. There are plenty of other ways to do that. Killing off a member of the original Falcon crew gang should be done with care and mind toward telling a good story, not just to explain their absence.

Think how tonally weird it would be to have Leia be killed offscreen or via a hologram in the original trilogy. If they had done that to Han Solo or Luke Skywalker in Episode VII people would have rioted. The only reason why it seems like a good idea to you guys now is because Carrie Fisher just died less than 24 hours ago. It would look sloppy and be a really underwhelming end to one of the best scifi women ever.

You are right that she doesn't need to die for the story to be complete. I was just thinking they were probably going to kill her off at some point and I don't want it to be some awkward emotional CGI death.

For all we know she died in the original filming of Episode VIII and this won't even be an issue.

 

[greyhammer90]

You are right that she doesn't need to die for the story to be complete. I was just thinking they were probably going to kill her off at some point and I don't want it to be some awkward emotional CGI death.

For all we know she died in the original filming of Episode VIII and this won't even be an issue.

That's funny that you figured they would kill her off at some point. I figured the opposite. I could see Luke dying heroically to bring back balance/mirror his father ("It's like a poem, they rhyme" lol) but figured the rest of the crew was pretty safe after Han.

I know Star Wars is much bigger than it used to be, but it's original "thing" was being a fun space adventure based loosely on classic mythology with your old buddies. It would suck if the only way this new trilogy can distinguish itself is to kill the entire original gang.

 

[ulukinatme]

You are right that she doesn't need to die for the story to be complete. I was just thinking they were probably going to kill her off at some point and I don't want it to be some awkward emotional CGI death.

For all we know she died in the original filming of Episode VIII and this won't even be an issue.

I had that thought too. Got to imagine for true fans that death would be even harder now knowing that she passed in real life. Remember how Ledger's death rocked the movie world, and while Dark Knight was a very different role in comparison to whatever Carrie has done in VIII, it was the performance of his lifetime. I think all eyes were certainly on Ledger in that movie knowing it was one of his final performances. If she is killed off in VIII I just think it could be that much more emotional.

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[ulukinatme]

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[Irish#1]

But it would be weird to do CGI for a death scene w/emotion and all that. I would rather they just do something off-camera or do a death where you don't need to see a close-up of her face.

Well what i mean is they would not necessarily need to kill her off depending on how important she is in the next two movies.

I mean she's dead either way. At least doing it in 9 gives them 3 years to figure it out instead of less than 1 to alter a movie that's already shot.

I would think they would still have reshoots and voice overs left

To combine this and the other things being discussed, they could show Leia meeting her demise via hologram... Luke and whoever are watching a transmission from the Resistance, only for the transmission to show a disaster.

It would create a conflict within the story, while eliminating weird reshoot/editing issues and avoiding the need for more CGI characters.

Or they do nothing more than write in some dialogue where it gets mentioned she was killed.

 

[Irish#1]

That's funny that you figured they would kill her off at some point. I figured the opposite. I could see Luke dying heroically to bring back balance/mirror his father ("It's like a poem, they rhyme" lol) but figured the rest of the crew was pretty safe after Han.

I know Star Wars is much bigger than it used to be, but it's original "thing" was being a fun space adventure based loosely on classic mythology with your old buddies. It would suck if the only way this new trilogy can distinguish itself is to kill the entire original gang.

Time stands still for no one.