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IrishLax said:
Yeah, it's interesting. Does the payoff justify the risks? So many Cali/southern guys who flame out pre- or post-LOI because they don't have their heads on straight. BUT even if you lose half of those guys, you end up with quite a few gems.



Do the holes caused by flame outs outweigh the premier players who do sign? I'm not sure.
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It's an interesting debate. Throwing out a few names: Tuitt, Nix, Niklas, Redfield, Folston


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Sherm Sticky said:
I hear what you are saying, but that's why their class is not a top 10 class.


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Its not top10 because they have a low number in their class. I think they have 14 at last count?
 
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Here's my analysis for what it's worth.

michigan's allure after the Hoke hire is waning. Recruits are starting to notice that their Sugar Bowl season was a fluke and that Hoke is a baboon. It was the momentum they had that helped land some good recruits in the last 2 cycles in areas they normally don't pull from. Now that they've come back down to earth, they're pulling kids from the MW and Mid Atlantic (like Lax said) that follow B1G football.

This type of recruiting for MW schools leads to the occasional 10 win season, but typically ensures 7-8 wins consistently. They're no longer the powerhouse they think they are and this is what they can expect from here on out. In the last few weeks they lost Campbell and Harris, both from areas they don't traditionally recruit.

With regards to ND, I get frustrated when Kolin Hill situations arise but I think taking the risk is worth the better chance of a 11-12 win season. By bringing in talent from across the country, we can bring in better, more diverse athletes than the skunkbears. While we might end up losing some to decommitments, transfers, grades, etc. I think it positions us to win 11-12 more often. Ultimately we'll have a better chance of making the playoff with this style of recruiting and player development instead of waiting until we can scoop up several elite MW prospects in the same cycle.

The difference in philosophy equates to catching lightning in a bottle once a decade (michigan) or more recruiting uncertainty but a chance to win 11-12 several times a decade. It takes the right kind of staff to but in that type of legwork but ND must have it in order to compete year in and year out.

With a different staff, meatchicken can recruit like ND but they longer they stay with Hoke the longer it'll take to reestablish themselves as a pseudo-national brand.
 
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Rack Em said:
Here's my analysis for what it's worth.

michigan's allure after the Hoke hire is waning. Recruits are starting to notice that their Sugar Bowl season was a fluke and that Hoke is a baboon. It was the momentum they had that helped land some good recruits in the last 2 cycles in areas they normally don't pull from. Now that they've come back down to earth, they're pulling kids from the MW and Mid Atlantic (like Lax said) that follow B1G football.

This type of recruiting for MW schools leads to the occasional 10 win season, but typically ensures 7-8 wins consistently. They're no longer the powerhouse they think they are and this is what they can expect from here on out. In the last few weeks they lost Campbell and Harris, both from areas they don't traditionally recruit.

With regards to ND, I get frustrated when Kolin Hill situations arise but I think taking the risk is worth the better chance of a 11-12 win season. By bringing in talent from across the country, we can bring in better, more diverse athletes than the skunkbears. While we might end up losing some to decommitments, transfers, grades, etc. I think it positions us to win 11-12 more often. Ultimately we'll have a better chance of making the playoff with this style of recruiting and player development instead of waiting until we can scoop up several elite MW prospects in the same cycle.

The difference in philosophy equates to catching lightning in a bottle once a decade (michigan) or more recruiting uncertainty but a chance to win 11-12 several times a decade. It takes the right kind of staff to but in that type of legwork but ND must have it in order to compete year in and year out.

With a different staff, meatchicken can recruit like ND but they longer they stay with Hoke the longer it'll take to reestablish themselves as a pseudo-national brand.
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I agree with this 100 percent reps my man.
 
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IrishLax said:
Oh, so 4 years after the incident and after he's completed his eligibility so no one will care/notice... then they do something about it. Pure Michigan. Good thing Gibbons got the esteemed General Studies degree to fall back on.
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Fuck him and fuck Michigan.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Now that Michigan has addressed the Brendan Gibbons stuff, will they now address Taylor Lewan allegedly bullying victim to stay quiet?</p>— Jeff Moss (@JeffMossDSR) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffMossDSR/statuses/428296341698412545">January 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Now that Michigan has addressed the Brendan Gibbons stuff, will they now address Taylor Lewan allegedly bullying victim to stay quiet?</p>— Jeff Moss (@JeffMossDSR) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffMossDSR/statuses/428296341698412545">January 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I beleive he said he'd rape her again if she said anything. Not 100% sure, but I think it was something along those lines.
 
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Guy got to get 4 years of free education and continue to play football with no legal repercussions, and he get kicked out of school.... Yeah Justice
 
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Here is the mouth breathing from Mgoblog. Of course they try to defend it.
Brendan Gibbons Expelled, Untruths Rampant | mgoblog

Tell your friends about this. No idea why this isn't bigger news. The university knew of rape allegations and another threat of rape and neither player was suspended.

Considering that the coaches and administration knew of Lewan's actions, kinda makes you wonder why he came back last season?
 
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woolybug25 said:
Here is the mouth breathing from Mgoblog. Of course they try to defend it.
Brendan Gibbons Expelled, Untruths Rampant | mgoblog

Tell your friends about this. No idea why this isn't bigger news. The university knew of rape allegations and another threat of rape and neither player was suspended.

Considering that the coaches and administration knew of Lewan's actions, kinda makes you wonder why he came back last season?
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Seriously... excellent job by Michigan waiting for them to be "former" players to do anything, so the story lead seems less juicy, and then also releasing it on Super Bowl week which is the polar opposite of a "slow news day" where this would likely get much higher billing.

Funniest is how Deadspin hasn't said even a peep on this.
 
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IrishLax said:
Seriously... excellent job by Michigan waiting for them to be "former" players to do anything, so the story lead seems less juicy, and then also releasing it on Super Bowl week which is the polar opposite of a "slow news day" where this would likely get much higher billing.

Funniest is how Deadspin hasn't said even a peep on this.
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Former Michigan Kicker Expelled For Sexual Misconduct
 
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Posted a link about the story to my Facebook account and it's been shared a few times already. We are going to have to go full grass-roots to give it the attention it deserves.

Most of my friends are OSU or ND fans so they are eating this up.
 
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