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Sending the house and leaving his corners on islands before halftime and when they’re up 14 in the 4th made zero sense.

He did this against Louisville late in the game too. It’s dumb.
 

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Sending the house and leaving his corners on islands before halftime and when they’re up 14 in the 4th made zero sense.

He did this against Louisville late in the game too. It’s dumb.
USC doesn't make the throw that Watts picked unless we send the house on that play though. He just had to get rid of it.

But yeah, we need to be able to get pressure with four sometimes. This is where we really missed Cross and Traore. Hinish and Jr. are not much factors in the pass rush. I'd rather see Young out there in passing situations than Oben or Burnham too.
 

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The height of the USC receivers was evident on all the jump balls and the QB did a nice job with ball placement. When he was under pressure, then he certainly made mistakes but indeed the rush was not getting home consistently.
Credit to Maiava too, his ball placement was pretty great on some throws where he was getting lit up
 

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There were huge busts when he played coverage. Can think of the safety not getting over in cover 2 when the corner sat flat for a huge gain. You do what you do. Blitzing a LB had nothing to do with them coming up with 50/50 balls. Sometimes you gotta give the enemy credit. Their WRs played well. Cross being back is huge and quite frankly Rubio and Mills needed to get more pressure in his face and didn’t. We win. We advance. We get healthy.
 

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This is a man to man team every time they went cover 2 or cover 4 they were lost. Gray was just being abused it wasn't some wild concept or route pattern it was straight go routes and he was getting killed by lemon
 

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Whatever ND does they need to invest heavily in NIL at WR again and DL we Absolutely need to get a pass rush going next year
 

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Sometimes the hero lives long enough to become the villain... lots of guys playing who were considered 3rd string to start the year.
Exactly this. The fact that we’re so far down the depth chart and still productive is insane.
 

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I know Lax posted a week or so ago how impressive Golden has been with all the injuries on D. Multiple D-line, LB, CBs. Safety the only position group that has stayed healthy.
 

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The 85 Bears left their corners on islands all game. That's why you remember Hampton, Dent, McMichael, Perry, Singletary, Marshall, Wilson, and, if a Notre Dame fan, Duerson (and his sidekick Fencik), but you don't remember the corners so much (because they, Richardson, especially, and Frazier had to take the abuse.) Well, they were damm good too --- just like all of our guys. They were just going to get beat some, and there was one game where they got beat several times. (Marino ending the winning streak.) But this was the best defense in NFL history by most assessments. Golden has a system which works almost all the time. It even worked against Northern for that matter. Sometimes it not only works, but it OVERTLY wins you the game.

I'll take our defense over anyone else's. And I bet that in their time, that DBack unit (including Morrison in the surmise) puts 5 or 6 guys into the NFL, maybe more. Corners get beat some. Sometimes the opponent is three-inch-lucky where the ball comes down and grabs the 50/50. And sometimes we go 100 yards with the pick. We need more QB pressure. Our DBacks are just fine. Not everyone's Revis or that egotist Sanders who you just mysteriously could not beat.
 

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Well yeah because he leaves them 1v1 on the outside… USC is the first team to be like “you know, I think our WRs are good enough to come down with at least half of these jump balls.” And Golden kept blitzing and not getting home.
All of their offense was heaving 50/50 balls and they got the ultimate roll where this particular game they caught at 75/25 clip. And still lost and never led. It is what air raid is and that’s what it looks like when it works and they lost. It’s why the Pirate (rip) never sniffed a conference title or playoff. It’s a gimmick offense. It is what you do to make wazu or cowbell competitive like the academies with option and also why leonard Moore looked better than gray because he has more length and hops. It’s a one off that don’t mean shit. And pathetic that a brand like USC thinks they have to run gimmick O to compete
 

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USC is going to put up points and what this defense has done with losing key starters what are we complaining about? Gray had a 99 yd. pick 6 & Watts had a 101 yd. pick 6.
 

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The 85 Bears left their corners on islands all game. That's why you remember Hampton, Dent, McMichael, Perry, Singletary, Marshall, Wilson, and, if a Notre Dame fan, Duerson (and his sidekick Fencik), but you don't remember the corners so much (because they, Richardson, especially, and Frazier had to take the abuse.) Well, they were damm good too --- just like all of our guys. They were just going to get beat some, and there was one game where they got beat several times. (Marino ending the winning streak.) But this was the best defense in NFL history by most assessments. Golden has a system which works almost all the time. It even worked against Northern for that matter. Sometimes it not only works, but it OVERTLY wins you the game.

I'll take our defense over anyone else's. And I bet that in their time, that DBack unit (including Morrison in the surmise) puts 5 or 6 guys into the NFL, maybe more. Corners get beat some. Sometimes the opponent is three-inch-lucky where the ball comes down and grabs the 50/50. And sometimes we go 100 yards with the pick. We need more QB pressure. Our DBacks are just fine. Not everyone's Revis or that egotist Sanders who you just mysteriously could not beat.
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You had me at "85 Bears". Yes....
 

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Does anyone else watch the heinous bengals defense every week and think “please stay away”? Sorry if this has been posted during their multiple other heinous weeks.
Just have to keep outscoring teams, I guess. Burrow is having an unbelievable season.
 

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Does anyone else watch the heinous bengals defense every week and think “please stay away”? Sorry if this has been posted during their multiple other heinous weeks.
I can't fully decode this. What do we want to stay away? And why is it related to Golden, other than he was a position coach for them a few years ago? I'm not plugged into the NFL...

Is he a candidate for a potential vacancy there?
 

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I can't fully decode this. What do we want to stay away? And why is it related to Golden, other than he was a position coach for them a few years ago? I'm not plugged into the NFL...

Is he a candidate for a potential vacancy there?
There has always kinda been an underlying sense here in the Cinci area that once Lou Anaruma moved on from the Bengals that Al would be his replacement.

The expectation always was that Lou would get a head coach job and that would open the door for Al. I think what the poster is saying is that now the expectation is Lou will be fired if the defense doesn't improve opening the door for Al.
 

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There has always kinda been an underlying sense here in the Cinci area that once Lou Anaruma moved on from the Bengals that Al would be his replacement.

The expectation always was that Lou would get a head coach job and that would open the door for Al. I think what the poster is saying is that now the expectation is Lou will be fired if the defense doesn't improve opening the door for Al.
All of this is predicated on Zac Taylor staying. There seems to be potential that he's gone after this season if they don't make the playoffs.

Not terribly worried about it either way. If Taylor stays, he's going to be on the hot seat. Not exactly a stable situation. If Taylor gets fired, probably a slim chance his replacement hires Al Golden to be DC.
 

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All of this is predicated on Zac Taylor staying. There seems to be potential that he's gone after this season if they don't make the playoffs.

Not terribly worried about it either way. If Taylor stays, he's going to be on the hot seat. Not exactly a stable situation. If Taylor gets fired, probably a slim chance his replacement hires Al Golden to be DC.
Agree completely. I also think that the farther away we get from the Super Bowl team the more the people in Cinci forget about Al Golden.
 

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Agree completely. I also think that the farther away we get from the Super Bowl team the more the people in Cinci forget about Al Golden.
Anarumo is one of the longest tenured NFL DC. He makes about $1.5M a year. It's been three seasons since Golden was the LB coach there.

Zac Taylor might need a fresh set of eyes and philosophy has his next DC if his job is on the line. He might want to reach a bit further than an apple that was already on the tree.

Nothing against Al Golden and I'm not doing mental gymnastics here convincing myself Golden isn't going to leave, but ZT will have a big sense of urgency and would probably want an NFL guy in there who can turn the ship around.
 

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Anarumo is one of the longest tenured NFL DC. He makes about $1.5M a year. It's been three seasons since Golden was the LB coach there.

Zac Taylor might need a fresh set of eyes and philosophy has his next DC if his job is on the line. He might want to reach a bit further than an apple that was already on the tree.

Nothing against Al Golden and I'm not doing mental gymnastics here convincing myself Golden isn't going to leave, but ZT will have a big sense of urgency and would probably want an NFL guy in there who can turn the ship around.
Also, if you're Golden, do you want to attach yourself to a head coach who may be in a win or lose your job season? He could very well prefer the job security that he has at Notre Dame.
 

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As a Bengals fan, I have zero faith that Zac Taylor's job is in jeopardy. It should be! But I doubt it is.

We've only got a league leader in passing, receiving, and sacks... of course that's not enough to be a playoff team.

Mike Brown HATES change. He (and his daughter) will let Joe Burrow whither away under a below-average HC before they'd decide to pay a buyout and hire a qualified candidate.

It's a shame the Bengals are going to dick around and waste Joe Burrow's prime, when they should've been doing everything possible to fully invest around him after 2021. What that dude did to get the Bengals to the Super Bowl behind that OL (shoutout to the defense, too) was nothing short of miraculous. Instead, they figured they'd cruise on his and Ja'Marr's rookie contracts to another Super Bowl appearance.

As it turns out... you actually need to invest in a scouting department if you're trying to build around a dude that's eventually going to be paid a record contract, but Mike Brown won't shell out for that, either! Let's let Duke Tobin do everything on his own with a team of just four guys, instead of modernizing and actually committing to being a real professional franchise.

They should fire Zac and hire a defensive head coach, and let Burrow make [insert any OC with a brain] work. Then they can decide it might be appropriate to modernize other parts of the franchise, and not just some stadium upgrades.

But again, Mike Brown never met a status quo that he didn't like.
 

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Anarumo is one of the longest tenured NFL DC. He makes about $1.5M a year. It's been three seasons since Golden was the LB coach there.

Zac Taylor might need a fresh set of eyes and philosophy has his next DC if his job is on the line. He might want to reach a bit further than an apple that was already on the tree.

Nothing against Al Golden and I'm not doing mental gymnastics here convincing myself Golden isn't going to leave, but ZT will have a big sense of urgency and would probably want an NFL guy in there who can turn the ship around.
I have always thought the idea of Al going back to Cinci is far-fetched.

My initial post on this subject was simply to give VPD an answer to what Floribama was insinuating.
 

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Yes, it's always been my assumption that the only job Al would leave for is an NFL DC position, and watching the Bengals D get torched again Sunday, was just a random NFL Sunday thought. Carry on!
I have always thought the idea of Al going back to Cinci is far-fetched.

My initial post on this subject was simply to give VPD an answer to what Floribama was insinuating.
 

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I have always thought the idea of Al going back to Cinci is far-fetched.

My initial post on this subject was simply to give VPD an answer to what Floribama was insinuating.
I think worrying about assistant coaches leaving in an industry where assistant coaches are prone to leaving isn't a good way to navigate football fandom when things are going well.

There's also a massive football game to be played this Friday night and a championship to be won.
 

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