'25 FL DB Ivan Taylor (Alabama Verbal)

[SaltyND24]

Odds can not be good knight sticks with ND

What would you put the odds at then? I find his response to actually be pretty mature and more "adult" than the adults losing their minds over recruiting.

 

[stlnd01]

Wow the bellyachers are out in force this evening.

 

[PutuporShutup]

What would you put the odds at then? I find his response to actually be pretty mature and more "adult" than the adults losing their minds over recruiting.

49/51

like our 26 qb posting about another offer now deuce congratulating a top player from leaving ND and going to a rival… not the leadership we need from the qb position and we need our qb to be a main recruiter for nd

 

[Katzenboyer]

With Harbaugh no longer there, I just do not understand this flip.

 

[CanadalovesND]

With Harbaugh no longer there, I just do not understand this flip.

I believe Ike Taylor and new Michigan's DB coach, LaMar Morgan, were actually teammates at ULL. Taylor was a senior when Morgan was a freshman.

I'm not saying that itself was the deciding reason, but seems like Morgan likely knew of the family a bit before getting a position at Michigan.

 

[stlnd01]

I believe Ike Taylor and new Michigan's DB coach, LaMar Morgan, were actually teammates at ULL. Taylor was a senior when Morgan was a freshman.

I'm not saying that itself was the deciding reason, but seems like Morgan likely knew of the family a bit before getting a position at Michigan.

It appears that Taylor was looking around - maybe for a better $$ offer, maybe for a better playing time situation, maybe a bit of both - and then, yeah, this relationship brought him to Michigan. For now. I'll bet lots of vbucks he never makes a tackle in maize and blue.

 

[PolishDomer]

What would you put the odds at then? I find his response to actually be pretty mature and more "adult" than the adults losing their minds over recruiting.

It's just...weird

 

[brewdog_14527]

What would you put the odds at then? I find his response to actually be pretty mature and more "adult" than the adults losing their minds over recruiting.

You can see why that might be missed here, right?

 

[CanadalovesND]

Odds can not be good knight sticks with ND

How so?

Only reason anyone has this sort of feeling is because he hasn't said "I'm completely solid to ND and not talking to any other school".

Yet, Deuce has spent about the entirety of one month on campus since committing. I'm not exaggerating either. He's been to campus many many times, came earlier for those visits, and has stayed later than originally planned.

Anyone can decommit at anytime, so nothing is guaranteed, but despite rumblings, I'm quite confident he sticks. If he decided to take a visit during the season to Ole Miss, then I'd question it a bit.

 

[stlnd01]

It's just...weird

I mean, the century-old animosity between Notre Dame and Michigan probably doesn't mean shit to an high school kid from Mississippi right? I'd guess he's glad his bro got paid.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Wouldn't shock me if that was the reason.

Michigan got a safeties coach who he is familiar with and is former teammates with his dad, while ND lost the safeties coach who landed him in the first place.

Sucks, because it seemed like ND weathered the storm a bit after the visits, but ND will survive. Something tells me that Taylor isn't going to leave the south regardless.

 

[IrishLion]

The next person that shares a BJ Holland tweet on this website gets an instant ban hammer, no questions asked.

 

[Irish#1]

Fine by this he wants guaranteed playing time chances are he doesn’t even up at Michigan

Probably so. Someone who wants guarantees before even getting on campus isn’t a team player.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Best part about this is that I'm willing to bet my life BJ knows absolutely nothing about actual football

 

[NDty9]

He ain’t our top player Blair is better, Deuce is better Will Black is better

Hahah stop

 

[Irish#1]

How so?

Only reason anyone has this sort of feeling is because he hasn't said "I'm completely solid to ND and not talking to any other school".

Yet, Deuce has spent about the entirety of one month on campus since committing. I'm not exaggerating either. He's been to campus many many times, came earlier for those visits, and has stayed later than originally planned.

Anyone can decommit at anytime, so nothing is guaranteed, but despite rumblings, I'm quite confident he sticks. If he decided to take a visit during the season to Ole Miss, then I'd question it a bit.

It’s how he rolls.

 

[jpachuta33]

We shall see how strong of a commitment this really is when scUM drops 4-5 games this season...

 

[Blazers46]

We shall see how strong of a commitment this really is when scUM drops 4-5 games this season...

One thing I’ve learned is the the ND door is closed. But it would be beautiful to see him spurn the Stinkbears.

 

[ulukinatme]

One thing I’ve learned is the the ND door is closed. But it would be beautiful to see him spurn the Stinkbears.

Yeah, no way I would want him back at this point. I hope we're not trying to reflip him. All in, or not at all.

 

[T-Boone]

I don’t think he is “committed” as such.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

I believe Ike Taylor and new Michigan's DB coach, LaMar Morgan, were actually teammates at ULL. Taylor was a senior when Morgan was a freshman.

I'm not saying that itself was the deciding reason, but seems like Morgan likely knew of the family a bit before getting a position at Michigan.

Dylan Edwards 2.0. Commit due to a preexisting family relation. Play a year, go to home state U.

 

[MacIrish75]

Dylan Edwards 2.0. Commit due to a preexisting family relation. Play a year, go to home state U.

I mean ultimately a lot of recruiting (absent NIL) is about relationships.

Taylor really jived with O’Leary by all accounts and as good as Mickens is, sometimes you just don’t vibe the same. I’m not saying Ike’s teammate promised Ivan early PT—but if that’s what he’s after, it’s feasible to think your old man’s buddy might be more inclined to give you a leg up, even in major college football.

I’m not sure it’s an indictment of the staff any more than it is just shitty circumstances for us. We’re gnashing teeth bc it’s Michigan…but cmon we all knew he wasn’t going to sign here for at least a month.

 

[Irish#1]

Yeah, no way I would want him back at this point. I hope we're not trying to reflip him. All in, or not at all.

I don't think MF will try to reflip him. After his first year, MF appears to have figured out who the bull shitters are and who aren't.

 

[ulukinatme]

Here's some truth for the Wolverines:

 

[Luckylucci]

The commitment can't be a HUGE deal and then the de-commitment not.

 

[BeauBenken]

The commitment can't be a HUGE deal and then the de-commitment not.

I mean, it can mean less because of the context, but I would agree that I would have rather had Ivan Taylor than not.

 

[Luckylucci]

Per the composite, the highest rated S since Hamilton in the 2019 class. In fact, he’d be the only top 100 S over that time.

This context still applies.

Been about five classes since we’ve landed a safety of his caliber

 

[Luckylucci]

Unless the decommittment was a result of getting a similarly rated commitment

But, we haven't, see above. We didn't lose him because we added Blair. And as someone that loves Blair. He will not be playing S long term. 6'5 200 lb HS S's do not play S long term. They are very valuable pieces to a roster but not at S. Which is why there are so few in the NFL.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

The commitment can't be a HUGE deal and then the de-commitment not.

But context is everything. When Taylor originally committed, he was absolutely necessary because we needed a lot of high quality secondary players. Fortunately, we added the 7th secondary player in Blair just days before Taylor defected. Sitting at 6 players with a bunch of high level corner, nickel and safety options should at the very least, less the sting.

Also, if we're trading legacy players in successive classes, I'll take the Carr/Taylor trade.

Best world is one where Taylor chooses ND but life isn't perfect.

 

[BeauBenken]

But, we haven't, see above. We didn't lose him because we added Blair. And as someone that loves Blair. He will not be playing S long term. 6'5 200 lb HS S's do not play S long term. They are very valuable pieces to a roster but not at S. Which is why there are so few in the NFL.

I think Blair is a safety, but maybe I'm just an optimist.