'24 MI QB CJ Carr (Notre Dame Signee)

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It's just weird because it's clearly not anti-ND bias. Kedren Young moved into the top 100. Styles is top 200. Even Knapp is in the top 200. The rankings actually pander for the most part to the biggest fanbases on On3 in Michigan, ND, Bama etc. The CJ Carr rankings is personal to Powers for some reason.
 

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It's just weird because it's clearly not anti-ND bias. Kedren Young moved into the top 100. Styles is top 200. Even Knapp is in the top 200. The rankings actually pander for the most part to the biggest fanbases on On3 in Michigan, ND, Bama etc. The CJ Carr rankings is personal to Powers for some reason.
I could be mid-remembering. But I remember they dropped CJ in the middle of the season last year after a bad performance. Since then, he’s been really good to end his senior year into the spring and summer as well, and he continue to drop despite that.
 

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Just an FYI, I saw on Instagram that On3 dropped Dylan Raiola from the #1 player in the country to #11.
 

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Just an FYI, I saw on Instagram that On3 dropped Dylan Raiola from the #1 player in the country to #11.
I thought that Dylan Stewart was #1 on On3? And they dropped him to 10 which is hilarious since he is a defensive end. They also bumped Texas A&M qb commit from untangled to number 56? He wasn’t at elite 11 and I don’t remember him at any camps this summer. How can they justify such a lofty bump?
 

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Power is picking a really stupid hill to die on.

Scratch that, he's picking A LOT of really stupid hills to die on.
 

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It's just weird because it's clearly not anti-ND bias. Kedren Young moved into the top 100. Styles is top 200. Even Knapp is in the top 200. The rankings actually pander for the most part to the biggest fanbases on On3 in Michigan, ND, Bama etc. The CJ Carr rankings is personal to Powers for some reason.
Lloyd probably took his girlfriend back in the day.
 

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so no recap from anyone?
Most of it is Powers saying a lot of nothing and adding plenty of caveats that they put the most emphasis on senior year rankings for QBs.

Singer finally pressed him and put on some elite 11 film and Charles gave a half ass answer.

Pros: Polish, Mechanics, Accuracy

Negatives: Reading defense, understanding leverage, performance against live defenses.
 

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I tried listening to it, and it was a bunch of BS talk about how hard their jobs are and it's all projections. No crap. Cry me a river. I turned it off before they must've actually done any film review
 

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Powers is holding Carr back because he thinks Carr's strengths won't transition as well to DI under live fire. He thinks Carr is a camp hero, not a gamer.

Ironic, considering most ND QB's/WR's drop with 247 for NOT being camp warriors... but On3 is blasting a legit top-5 QB BECAUSE he's a camp warrior.

Can't win!
 

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Didn't Arch Manning's team get shut up by bigger/better competition every season once they got out of their small league? But he's the #1 national recruit on On3 last year? Weird.
And he never attended a single camp in the summer.
 

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And he never attended a single camp in the summer.
I was listening to IB last summer and they said that Arch is a good player, definitely a top 50 recruit, but that there were multiple QB's better than him in the 2023 class. If his name was John Smith he wouldn't have been the #1 overall recruit, let alone QB prospect.
 

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I was listening to IB last summer and they said that Arch is a good player, definitely a top 50 recruit, but that there were multiple QB's better than him in the 2023 class. If his name was John Smith he wouldn't have been the #1 overall recruit, let alone QB prospect.
Not that CJ has anywhere near the same level of pedigree as the Manning name does, but weird how the Carr name hasn't seemed to help him in the rankings.
 

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CJ team isn't very good.. Only thing I worry about. His numbers weren't great last year because of Saline.
 

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Not that CJ has anywhere near the same level of pedigree as the Manning name does, but weird how the Carr name hasn't seemed to help him in the rankings.
Huh?? I think the Carr name definitely has helped CJ. Its one analyst that has him not ranked as high. Otherwise CJ is a Top 5 QB. I am not sure what more you want? He is a high 4-star QB out of a SEC HS in Michigan - not exactly elite conference football to begin with.
 

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I have to give Singer props. Has this Charles Power on his podcast as to why he ranked CJ so low. Charles Power is asked why he has him so low and basically Powers says he needs to show more game presence and production. At the same time Singer shows highlights of CJ getting out of pressure again and again - real time refuting Powers' argument. Kind of funny.
 

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I have to give Singer props. Has this Charles Power on his podcast as to why he ranked CJ so low. Charles Power is asked why he has him so low and basically Powers says he needs to show more game presence and production. At the same time Singer shows highlights of CJ getting out of pressure again and again - real time refuting Powers' argument. Kind of funny.
Singer deleted about 20 legitimate questions people asked in the chat.
One dude did a superchat with Power quotes contradicting himself, asking Power to explain, & Singer deleted it.
Singer banned people from it also.
 

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It was very interesting hearing Power say that he’d have Minchey in the top 100 if he was in thee ‘24 class and then said he’d favor him to be the future starter.
 
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