'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

[FightingIrishLover7]

i had not read this elsewhere maybe I missed it but ISD is saying that Moore will visit Oregon again next weekend.

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Any word on his OV to ND?

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

I think the big thing is Moore contacted ND to see where we were. We retook the narrative and is in the drivers seat. Care having the ability to reclassify has given us an extra option.

 

[calvegas04]

IMO. This is where he ends up if it isn't ND. Rooting for LSU if it isn't ND, but that QB room at LSU is really competitive. Their redshirt freshman really impressed me in the spring game and that isn't even counting the local 5* . Just think Dantes path to the field at LSU would be a lot more challenging. Don't know Oregons depth chart situation.

Why would you want LSU over Oregon? Oregon would be a good fit for him and be a pain in the side to usc.

 

[CoachB]

Why would you want LSU over Oregon? Oregon would be a good fit for him and be a pain in the side to usc.

I'm kinda with Old Man Mike that any Bama loss is a good thing. Also, I am in the minority that I want BK to do well. I think if BK struggles at LSU, it will be easy for the media to dismiss NDs success under Kelly as having as easy schedule. So, therefore, I want LSU to do well in order to help ND look good.

 

[irish4ever]

I'm kinda with Old Man Mike that any Bama loss is a good thing. Also, I am in the minority that I want BK to do well. I think if BK struggles at LSU, it will be easy for the media to dismiss NDs success under Kelly as having as easy schedule. So, therefore, I want LSU to do well in order to help ND look good.

Not if MF can lead ND to the "promise land" with a Natty, something that BK couldn't do!

 

[IHateMarkMay]

How about MF meets BK in the championship game and BK does what he always does in the playoffs and gets blown out by 30.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I'm kinda with Old Man Mike that any Bama loss is a good thing. Also, I am in the minority that I want BK to do well. I think if BK struggles at LSU, it will be easy for the media to dismiss NDs success under Kelly as having as easy schedule. So, therefore, I want LSU to do well in order to help ND look good.

The narrative is damning in either direction because many hate ND. If Bk wins, the narrative will be, "Kelly no longer held back by ND, wins at LSU". I think i vote for the former more than the latter.

 

[greyhammer90]

"LSU has a harder schedule" is just a copium way of saying "It's easier for a coach to win at ND than LSU."

I hope LSU gets jacked up until BK gets fired and they have to swallow that ridiculous contract.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

"LSU has a harder schedule" is just a copium way of saying "It's easier for a coach to win at ND than LSU."

I hope LSU gets jacked up until BK gets fired and they have to swallow that ridiculous contract.

I hope Bama beats them by 50, then OLE miss doubles them up.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I am grateful to Kelly for raising the floor of NDFB. He was exactly what we needed post-Weis.

But he is also the first ever coach to voluntarily leave for a different job, and how he left is hard to get over. I don't wish him ill, but I also wouldn't be happy to see him rehabilitated in 5-10 years so he can come back into ND's good graces and live off that in retirement like Lou did. He didn't earn that right, though I'm sure some will try to make it happen regardless.

As VDP mentioned above, Kelly's success or failure will be spun as an indictment of ND regardless. I agree with OMM that ending Bama's dominance would be good for the game, but the SEC W is so competitive now that I don't think that burden really rests on LSU. The Swamp Kitties are a very dysfunctional team, and absent Kelly recruiting (lol) talent along the lines of 2021 Georgia, I don't see him getting over the hump there. He'll likely leave LSU in a much better place than he found it, but dethroning Saban? Sincerely doubt it.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

"LSU has a harder schedule" is just a copium way of saying "It's easier for a coach to win at ND than LSU."

I hope LSU gets jacked up until BK gets fired and they have to swallow that ridiculous contract.

Once upon a time I was on one of the UM boards, they claim it's easier for ND to get to the playoff than any big 10 team...

 

[du Lac]

Honest question. If you could get Dante and a ‘24 kid, but lose Carr to Michigan for ‘24 vs get Carr for ‘23 and take a ‘24 kid, which option do you choose? Unbiased perspective. I honestly think it’s a toss up. I might go CJ just due to leadership. I don’t know for certain if Dante is more polished. I’m assuming slightly. Who has more upside, idk.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Honest question. If you could get Dante and a ‘24 kid, but lose Carr to Michigan for ‘24 vs get Carr for ‘23 and take a ‘24 kid, which option do you choose? Unbiased perspective. I honestly think it’s a toss up. I might go CJ just due to leadership. I don’t know for certain if Dante is more polished. I’m assuming slightly. Who has more upside, idk.

I'd take the latter 100% of the time. Carr in '23 and Sayin in '24 seems to be our best bet.

I can understand why the staff doesn't want to go that route until we know Dante is completely off the table. 5-star QBs don't grow on trees, and we've already put a ton of effort in his recruitment. But there are red flags there that aren't present yet for Carr and Sayin.

 

[317Irish]

I'd take the latter 100% of the time. Carr in '23 and Sayin in '24 seems to be our best bet.

I can understand why the staff doesn't want to go that route until we know Dante is completely off the table. 5-star QBs don't grow on trees, and we've already put a ton of effort in his recruitment. But there are red flags there that aren't present yet for Carr and Sayin.

Agree with all of this.

 

[dad4aa]

I’ve already moved on from Dante and my preference is Carr ‘23/Sayin ‘24. Not going to say anything bad about a 17 year-old doing what he feels is due diligence, but with all that has transpired the past four months, I think there is a much higher likelihood that Dante would transfer if things aren’t going as planned then I think Carr or Sayin would.

 

[stlnd01]

Why are we so confident in our chances w/Sayin?

Just curious as he definitely seems like a great QB and I know he’s visited but also he has ALL the good offers and I don’t see any obvious built-in advantage for us with him? Is he a big Tommy Rees fan or something?

If we’re really gunning for two out of three of Carr, Moore and Sayin I guess I’d still be more confident that the guy we’ve been “leading” for for months would actually come here.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Why are we so confident in our chances w/Sayin?

Just curious as he definitely seems like a great QB and I know he’s visited but also he has ALL the good offers and I don’t see any obvious built-in advantage for us with him? Is he a big Tommy Rees fan or something?

If we’re really gunning for two out of three of Carr, Moore and Sayin I guess I’d still be more confident that the guy we’ve been “leading” for for months would actually come here.

Not sure people are confident. Here's how I see what people are thinking:

1) Moore and Sayin are both gambles (Moore does not seem enamored; Sayin is a long way off)
2) Carr is the bird in hand
3) Everyone likes Carr
4) the least risky path for ND, and the best way for Carr to maximize his chance to play early, is for Carr to come in 2023, so there is not a 5-star freshman with a 1-2 years in the program ahead of him when the QB position opens up
5) so that make Sayin in 2024 more attractive than Moore in 2023

But I agree with you that betting on Sayin coming in 2024 is fools gold. More so than Moore in 2023? Not sure...

 

[Dale]

Why are we so confident in our chances w/Sayin?

Just curious as he definitely seems like a great QB and I know he’s visited but also he has ALL the good offers and I don’t see any obvious built-in advantage for us with him? Is he a big Tommy Rees fan or something?

If we’re really gunning for two out of three of Carr, Moore and Sayin I guess I’d still be more confident that the guy we’ve been “leading” for for months would actually come here.

We probably have led for Sayin longer than “leading” for Moore.

 

[du Lac]

Not sure people are confident. Here's how I see what people are thinking:

1) Moore and Sayin are both gambles (Moore does not seem enamored; Sayin is a long way off)
2) Carr is the bird in hand
3) Everyone likes Carr
4) the least risky path for ND, and the best way for Carr to maximize his chance to play early, is for Carr to come in 2023, so there is not a 5-star freshman with a 1-2 years in the program ahead of him when the QB position opens up
5) so that make Sayin in 2024 more attractive than Moore in 2023

But I agree with you that betting on Sayin coming in 2024 is fools gold. More so than Moore in 2023? Not sure...

I view “Sayin” as a buzz word for a 4-5 star ‘24, whoever that may be. Posse seems good. There are others.

 

[Dale]

I view “Sayin” as a buzz word for a 4-5 star ‘24, whoever that may be. Posse seems good. There are others.

I don’t know I really agree there. If Carr were to reclassify (or even if he doesn’t) Sayin has a real shot to be the #2 QB in the 2024 class. He’s not interchangeable with many. A 5 star QB we stand a good shot at landing he’s really only interchangeable with one guy, CJ Carr.

 

[du Lac]

I don’t know I really agree there. If Carr were to reclassify (or even if he doesn’t) Sayin has a real shot to be the #2 QB in the 2024 class. He’s not interchangeable with many. A 5 star QB we stand a good shot at landing he’s really only interchangeable with one guy, CJ Carr.

No doubt. I am very high on Sayin. I had him as my favorite ‘24. But I like CJ a lot because I’ve learned what kind of kid he is. There’s no question I want Sayin, but he’s not going to be easy. He really liked his Bama visit.

 

[stlnd01]

I don’t know I really agree there. If Carr were to reclassify (or even if he doesn’t) Sayin has a real shot to be the #2 QB in the 2024 class. He’s not interchangeable with many. A 5 star QB we stand a good shot at landing he’s really only interchangeable with one guy, CJ Carr.

Yeah. Sayin is currently the #2 QB/#11 overall player in his class on 247. He’s not just some random four-star.

We will get a QB in ‘24 if Carr reclassifies it’s just that expecting to get Carr and Sayin feels like getting the two best QBs we’ve landed in 15+ years in the SAME class (even if Carr reclassifies they are in the same class now), and that feels, I dunno, unlikely?

Which is why I was asking if there’s something I missed to suggest we have a strong “in” with him. Bc I saw he just visited Bama, LSU and Texas last week and they all have their appeal as well.

 

[dad4aa]

No more or less “in” than we do with Dante it appears.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Which is why I was asking if there’s something I missed to suggest we have a strong “in” with him. Bc I saw he just visited Bama, LSU and Texas last week and they all have their appeal as well.

You could take a few minutes to read through his thread, and then you'll know as much as any of us. @BobbyMac CB'd him to ND over a year ago. There's a lot to be optimistic about there. The main downside is that he's still two years off from signing. But for guys like this, you're ultimately picking a spot in line at a school that's likely to have 2-3 other 5-star QBs on the roster already.

If Carr reclassifies to '23, then they're not competing for the same spot anymore. Now, coming in behind Carr might give Sayin 2nd thoughts. But if that's not an issue and he's willing to publicly commit, shut things down, and start leading the '24 class on a similar timeline to what CJ did, then I'd rather go Carr -> Sayin than Moore -> Carr.

 

[du Lac]

You could take a few minutes to read through his thread, and then you'll know as much as any of us. @BobbyMac CB'd him to ND over a year ago. There's a lot to be optimistic about there. The main downside is that he's still two years off from signing. But for guys like this, you're ultimately picking a spot in line at a school that's likely to have 2-3 other 5-star QBs on the roster already.

If Carr reclassifies to '23, then they're not competing for the same spot anymore. Now, coming in behind Carr might give Sayin 2nd thoughts. But if that's not an issue and he's willing to publicly commit, shut things down, and start leading the '24 class on a similar timeline to what CJ did, then I'd rather go Carr -> Sayin than Moore -> Carr.

I like Sayin more than Dante. He’s an animal in his tape. Escape artist with laser like accuracy. I like Carr’s height and athleticism as well as leadership. They’d be a dynamic duo. One would play 2 years. The other would play 2 years. Both could be first rounders. Sayin a little short, but likely taller than Book.

 

[NDPhilly]

Dante just posted a video of him killing the OT7 tournament on IG with the caption “Family > Money”

I hope this recruitment never ends

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Dante just posted a video of him killing the OT7 tournament on IG with the caption “Family > Money”

I hope this recruitment never ends

But
His dad is family
His dad wants money.
Family >= Money?

 

[ulukinatme]

I hope Carr can reclassify. It's a strange world where a Michigan legacy seems all in on ND from the '24 class, but a guy in the '23 class that we shut all other QB recruiting down for is unsure or would rather chase the bag. Just doesn't seem to me that Moore is a good fit, not a Notre Dame guy. Carr knows this is the place, bring him in now and find someone else for '24.

 

[MacIrish75]

But
His dad is family
His dad wants money.
Family >= Money?

Family ≈ Money

 

[arahop]

He only has himself to blame there.

It c

I hope Carr can reclassify. It's a strange world where a Michigan legacy seems all in on ND from the '24 class, but a guy in the '23 class that we shut all other QB recruiting down for is unsure or would rather chase the bag. Just doesn't seem to me that Moore is a good fit, not a Notre Dame guy. Carr knows this is the place, bring him in now and find someone else for '24.

Nonsense. He's a 4.0 student. Once again, because he hasn't made his decision on your timeline he's not a Notre Dame guy?!
Just because fans can't handle the emotional swings of recruiting elite 5star QB talent...
ND should just stop recruiting them?
This is what it takes. It's easy to sign the Drew Pynes of the world.