'21 FL CB Philip Riley (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[irish4ever]

Staff must really like him (I like him as well) to allow him to recommit after decommitting and committing to your rival. I can't imagine BK typically allows or likes that. I don't even think Tuitt is a comparable situation. This is more Daelin Hayes. But either way, they were 5* type kids. That's why I think the staff is high on him.

Yeah, this is a huge "re-get" for the Irish. I wrote him off after his decommit and then commit to the condoms.

 

[ThePiombino]

Yeah, this is a huge "re-get" for the Irish. I wrote him off after his decommit and then commit to the condoms.

Him and Colzie two biggest re-gets since Lynch and Tuitt?

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[BobbyMac]

His sin of forsaking Our Lady is forgiven and he is reDean'd. I'll see myself out.

 

[fightingirish26]

Him and Colzie two biggest re-gets since Lynch and Tuitt?

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I think the only other recommit during the BK era is Lenzy?

 

[irishandy]

Hold your horses. I’m not ready to say Houston Griffith is a bust. After this season Griffith still has two years of eligibility remaining.


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I am with you on this; depth has kept Griffith off the field this year.

 

[tadman95]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0X3Jod9ZhM

Before the re-commitment. Things change. These kids get pulled in a lot of directions.

 

[dublinirish]

I think the only other recommit during the BK era is Lenzy?

and Colzie this year

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Him and Colzie two biggest re-gets since Lynch and Tuitt?

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Was Hayes committed before he went to USC ? Can't remember

 

[zelezo vlk]

Was Hayes committed before he went to USC ? Can't remember

No but it was thought he was a huge ND lean. Then he moved to LA overnight and committed to USC

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

No but it was thought he was a huge ND lean. Then he moved to LA overnight and committed to USC

Yeah so that's almost same situation he would be a huge one who kinda got away and came back.

 

[stpeteirish]

Do you see this guy as that high ceiling? I dont know much of him only that the rankings seem to have him a 3 star with Rivals a 4 star.

no he's a4 star on 247 and on the 247 composite. Low 4 star but higher than our other 3 DB recruits this cycle.

 

[Irish#1]

Amazing what beating the #1 team can do for you.

 

[BabyIrish]

BK and the Irish better circle USC on the calendar next year for the crap they pulled in the Riley recruitment. Put 70 on them.

https://www.ndinsider.com/recruitin...cle_c6dfd0b0-39d6-571c-9620-80aeaeea6a83.html

 

[IrishLax]

BK and the Irish better circle USC on the calendar next year for the crap they pulled in the Riley recruitment. Put 70 on them.

https://www.ndinsider.com/recruitin...cle_c6dfd0b0-39d6-571c-9620-80aeaeea6a83.html

This is a new low in negative recruiting --

“The (perceived lack of) diversity was one of the key reasons I decommitted. I was filled with a lot of nonsense about how Notre Dame is not diverse,” said Riley, a product of Bloomingdale High in Valrico, Fla. “It was really what I saw on Twitter and people reaching out to me. Family members, other schools and just people in general calling me and telling me what they were seeing and what they were witnessing from their experience in Indiana. Just what I was seeing online really disappointed me.”

FWIW, Notre Dame is approximately 65% white and the United States is approximately 61%-77% white depending on how you categorize different types of Hispanics/Latinos. USC can eat a bag of dicks.

 

[BeauBenken]

The one thing that makes USC highly diverse is that they have a disproportionate Asian student population, no?

Notre Dame diversity:

USC diversity:

ND out-of-state:

USC out-of-state:

I'd say that ND is plenty diverse for a Catholic university in northern Indiana, and I think they might do better with getting students from different walks of life.

 

[BobbyMac]

This is a new low in negative recruiting --


FWIW, Notre Dame is approximately 65% white and the United States is approximately 61%-77% white depending on how you categorize different types of Hispanics/Latinos. USC can eat a bag of dicks.

Are we to blame this all on SC? He didn't say that. He mentions a lot of other data points. I'm not saying they didn't but I haven't heard any more behind the scenes comments from those in the know up to this point.

Lets face it, before you look at the breakdown by race, ND always comes across as the white boy school in the sports public's minds. And then you throw what the current political climate has caused the woke world's perception of Indiana to be and it's no wonder how an under informed kid could come to recalculate his first commitment.

That said, what the entire world doesn't understand about Indiana is there's the rest of Indiana (or Northern Kentucky as we call it) and then there's the Region & Michiana. Lake, Porter, LaPorte and St Joe Co's are Catholic strongholds with typical urban demographics. I grew up in Gary & Michigan City, explaining what the area north of the Kankakee is like to people not from Chicagoland or Indiana is 30 minutes of deprogramming just to get them to understand French Lick's not the capital of the state and we talk more like Bears Superfans and not Larry Bird or John Mellancamp.

The funny thing is, South Bend is 27% African American. Woke azz LA is just 9%. And though SC is more diverse in the sense that white students are not a majority, the schools' overall African American populations are within 1% of each other. Plus, as a football player or basketball player at this level, all locker rooms look basically the same to a player's eye.

Maybe the school needs to have Daelin Hayes do a webinar on how Notre Dame students stripped KKK members naked in the streets when they assembled outside a South Bend jail "peacefully protesting" about an African American being held inside. That's the kind of stuff we were doing 100 years ago in the good part of Indiana.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Are we to blame this all on SC? He didn't say that. He mentions a lot of other data points. I'm not saying they didn't but I haven't heard any more behind the scenes comments from those in the know up to this point.

Lets face it, before you look at the breakdown by race, ND always comes across as the white boy school in the sports public's minds. And then you throw what the current political climate has caused the woke world's perception of Indiana to be and it's no wonder how an under informed kid could come to recalculate his first commitment.

That said, what the entire world doesn't understand about Indiana is there's the rest of Indiana (or Northern Kentucky as we call it) and then there's the Region & Michiana. Lake, Porter, LaPorte and St Joe Co's are Catholic strongholds with typical urban demographics. I grew up in Gary & Michigan City, explaining what the area north of the Kankakee is like to people not from Chicagoland or Indiana is 30 minutes of deprogramming just to get them to understand French Lick's not the capital of the state and we talk more like Bears Superfans and not Larry Bird or John Mellancamp.

The funny thing is, South Bend is 27% African American. Woke azz LA is just 9%. And though SC is more diverse in the sense that white students are not a majority, the schools' overall African American populations are within 1% of each other. Plus, as a football player or basketball player at this level, all locker rooms look basically the same to a player's eye.

Maybe the school needs to have Daelin Hayes do a webinar on how Notre Dame students stripped KKK members naked in the streets when they assembled outside a South Bend jail "peacefully protesting" about an African American being held inside. That's the kind of stuff we were doing 100 years ago in the good part of Indiana.

Take it easy on Southern Indiana now....

 

[BobbyMac]

Take it easy on Southern Indiana now....

Nothing wrong with the rest of Indiana, it's just different.

But then there's Evansville. That's another place all together but at least you can compare it to Cincinnati and people kinda have a reference point. River city towns with strong Catholic history & influence are very unique. I love Cincy, Louisville and Evansville.

 

[EvilleIrish]

Nothing wrong with the rest of Indiana, it's just different.

But then there's Evansville. That's another place all together but at least you can compare it to Cincinnati and people kinda have a reference point. River city towns with strong Catholic history & influence are very unique. I love Cincy, Louisville and Evansville.

Now you're speaking my language.

 

[BabyIrish]

Are we to blame this all on SC? He didn't say that. He mentions a lot of other data points. I'm not saying they didn't but I haven't heard any more behind the scenes comments from those in the know up to this point.

I’ve heard USC was pretty dirty but Carter held back in his article. But to each his own.

 

[IrishLax]

Are we to blame this all on SC? He didn't say that. He mentions a lot of other data points. I'm not saying they didn't but I haven't heard any more behind the scenes comments from those in the know up to this point.

It's pretty clear to me what "other schools" means and what is implied by the bolded. Someone actively sold him some extremely underhanded and unethical misinformation about what ND stands for, and I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption who one of those primary actors was.

 

[House16]

I find this whole thing interesting because 1) ND's reputation as a school for rich white kids from prep schools is not unearned; ND has more students from the top 1% than from the bottom 50%, family wealth-wise. But 2) USC is like the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black there. I don't see how they can make a case as a diverse school, either racially or economically. And, as someone pointed out, if you look past the school to the surroundings, it's not clear to me that LA is so much more diverse than South Bend.

If South Carolina were neg recruiting us like this it would extremely warranted. But for this USC to do it seems crazy, they're in the same boat as us.

 

[OCIrish]

Nothing wrong with the rest of Indiana, it's just different.

But then there's Evansville. That's another place all together but at least you can compare it to Cincinnati and people kinda have a reference point. River city towns with strong Catholic history & influence are very unique. I love Cincy, Louisville and Evansville.

Crus you are very correct that the rest of Indiana is different......outside of college towns and Indy. Ft Wayne is very diverse, but you don't have to travel too far from the Fort to find first rate backwoods Indiana hicks. And there's nothing wrong with that, either, but they're certainly different.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

I’m not sure why anyone would suddenly be upset about USC or any other school negatively recruiting against ND. They have been using diversity against ND forever! Whether it’s about not having women, non-Catholics, black students, etc.

I’m also not sure how anyone can say one of the most diverse cities in the world (LA) is comparable to, or less than, the diversity of South Bend.

 

[House16]

I’m also not sure how anyone can say one of the most diverse cities in the world (LA) is comparable to, or less than, the diversity of South Bend.

With respect only to percent African-American, LA is 9.5% black and South Bend is 26% black. So looking at just that one specific aspect of diversity you can make the argument. That's probably not to say that SB is a better cultural melting pot than LA (where I live fwiw) though.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I’m also not sure how anyone can say one of the most diverse cities in the world (LA) is comparable to, or less than, the diversity of South Bend.

Easily. For all its foibles, South Bend has a real history and maintains a strong connection to it. LA is a sprawling hellscape of track homes, big box stores and traffic jams. One of the most plastic and inauthentic cities in the world.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Easily. For all its foibles, South Bend has a real history and maintains a strong connection to it. LA is a sprawling hellscape of track homes, big box stores and traffic jams. One of the most plastic and inauthentic cities in the world.

What does anything you said have to do with diversity? This argument over diversity in LA versus South Bend is absurd. LA literally has significant populations of people of every ethnicity on the planet.

 

[Huntr]

Got 'em.




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My favorite CB prospect in years.
I know it's speculated that he could grow into a safety but would love to see them try to make him into a fulltime, big CB

 

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