2025 Transfer Portal

[BoredIrish]

Kanu to Texas

Damn. The rich get richer.

 

[benneboy]

Damn. The rich get richer.

They put together a nice d line portal class but they have a loooong way to go if they're going to meet the preseason projections people are putting out there. They are depleted on the offensive line, secondary, and even wide receiver compared to what they've been the last few years.

 

[Rocketman84]

They put together a nice d line portal class but they have a loooong way to go if they're going to meet the preseason projections people are putting out there. They are depleted on the offensive line, secondary, and even wide receiver compared to what they've been the last few years.

That WR room will be fine, filled with tremendous talent. Wingi is a stud, Lockett and French will be hell for DCs then Moore is back as well. LBs are "elite" and secondary will be fine just not as good as last years. OL will be the biggest concern but having a guy like Manning helps alot

 

[benneboy]

That WR room will be fine, filled with tremendous talent. Wingi is a stud, Lockett and French will be hell for DCs then Moore is back as well. LBs are "elite" and secondary will be fine just not as good as last years. OL will be the biggest concern but having a guy like Manning helps alot

I wouldn't trade their Wr core for ours and it's been a while since I would say that. In fact there are probably only 4 or 5 guys from their entire starting lineup that I would sub in for ours. Hill would start at LB, Simmons at DE, Manning, Wingo would grab one of the Wr spots although most of his production was in junk time so TBD what he is.

I think their Dline is probably better setup than ours due to all the questions marks we have there and Simmons is different. But I like our roster better and think Sark is highly overrated.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[notredomer23]

Hopefully unc is transferring to trade school. Get a job

 

[ab2cmiller]

Looked at his bio on USC's site. Virtually a walking MASH unit.

 

[dublinirish]

Looked at his bio on USC's site. Virtually a walking MASH unit.

yep same career arc as Kevin Bauman more or less

 

[NDFAN2008]

yep same career arc as Kevin Bauman more or less

This would be his 8th year

 

[Old Man Mike]

Some guys just don't have the bone structure or cartilage connectivity strength to take the modern increase in explosive inertial impact. They might be the mentally toughest, bravest dudes on the planet, but it makes exactly zero difference. I can recall Chris Collingsworth's son trying his dammedest to play physical safety for us. Every full head-on collision was a shoulder cracker. Brave, but wrong career. .... and as we've seen with increasing S&C from early ages, a higher and higher % of football athletes find their bones and connectors giving way in time. No amount of "muscle" cures this --- helps a bit, sure --- but the natural human bone and cartilage construction is reaching its limits for almost everyone.

"Nature" has genetically programmed strengths and connectors so as to deal with "normally-expected" strain levels "in the state of nature" with a safety factor of about 2 1/2-to-3 times that. Not "infinite." Mother Nature doesn't waste energy and materials in the game of life statistical plan. The basic proteins themselves have upper limits of adaptability.

I've wondered for a little while now if we are about to see only a select set of genetic strains survive this increased violence --- this doesn't have to be interpreted in some "socio-cultural" sense IEers, I'm a scientist and a biologist not a commentator. To my scientific eye, all the various ethnicities have wide spreads of variations in each of them (Sumos vs the average Japanese male if one insists on a smack in the face example.) Within any block of genetic strains, there might be only a small number capable of a little extra strength-plus-flexibility to snap back intact from a violent assault at certain levels. "Legacies" in the future may mean well more than they do now.

Beyond that, My science reading tells me that we still have a way to go in the explosive acceleration category. If so, people will try to get there. Ultimately there MIGHT arrive the day when accelerative explosiveness overcomes ANY person's connectivity strength. Then EVERYONE's in the hospital, OR the game changes as far as added "armor" is concerned. At age 85, I'll probably get out of here before that challenges any integrity of the game. Over my 70 years of fandom though, it feels like it's coming.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Some guys just don't have the bone structure or cartilage connectivity strength to take the modern increase in explosive inertial impact. They might be the mentally toughest, bravest dudes on the planet, but it makes exactly zero difference. I can recall Chris Collingsworth's son trying his dammedest to play physical safety for us. Every full head-on collision was a shoulder cracker. Brave, but wrong career. .... and as we've seen with increasing S&C from early ages, a higher and higher % of football athletes find their bones and connectors giving way in time. No amount of "muscle" cures this --- helps a bit, sure --- but the natural human bone and cartilage construction is reaching its limits for almost everyone.

"Nature" has genetically programmed strengths and connectors so as to deal with "normally-expected" strain levels "in the state of nature" with a safety factor of about 2 1/2-to-3 times that. Not "infinite." Mother Nature doesn't waste energy and materials in the game of life statistical plan. The basic proteins themselves have upper limits of adaptability.

I've wondered for a little while now if we are about to see only a select set of genetic strains survive this increased violence --- this doesn't have to be interpreted in some "socio-cultural" sense IEers, I'm a scientist and a biologist not a commentator. To my scientific eye, all the various ethnicities have wide spreads of variations in each of them (Sumos vs the average Japanese male if one insists on a smack in the face example.) Within any block of genetic strains, there might be only a small number capable of a little extra strength-plus-flexibility to snap back intact from a violent assault at certain levels. "Legacies" in the future may mean well more than they do now.

Beyond that, My science reading tells me that we still have a way to go in the explosive acceleration category. If so, people will try to get there. Ultimately there MIGHT arrive the day when accelerative explosiveness overcomes ANY person's connectivity strength. Then EVERYONE's in the hospital, OR the game changes as far as added "armor" is concerned. At age 85, I'll probably get out of here before that challenges any integrity of the game. Over my 70 years of fandom though, it feels like it's coming.

I've missed your insightful posts Mike. You have always been one of our best posters, thanks for hanging around and occasionally offering us a new lens.

 

[Old Man Mike]

You're very welcome, of course. I used to regularly get complaints that the posts were too long and the content too ... whatever.

IE is a very hard crowd to interact with lots of the time. (Got so bad once that a poster started a "HIT" thread nominating me for the "most overrated poster award". (baby-ish of me, but that actually bothered me.)

 

[Irish#1]

You're very welcome, of course. I used to regularly get complaints that the posts were too long and the content too ... whatever.

IE is a very hard crowd to interact with lots of the time. (Got so bad once that a poster started a "HIT" thread nominating me for the "most overrated poster award". (baby-ish of me, but that actually bothered me.)

Hard to figure some people. Count me as one that enjoys your posts. You always come with a different perspective that adds value.

 

[BeatSC]

So with all that being said do we make a run at him? He won’t have to play full games as with Onye coming back we can rotate fresh bodies again.

 

[irishnd31]

You're very welcome, of course. I used to regularly get complaints that the posts were too long and the content too ... whatever.

IE is a very hard crowd to interact with lots of the time. (Got so bad once that a poster started a "HIT" thread nominating me for the "most overrated poster award". (baby-ish of me, but that actually bothered me.)

As someone who brings very little to this site other than the occasional jest, I truly appreciate your thoughts and insight. You are a valuable piece to IE and I thank you.

 

[PolishDomer]

Some guys just don't have the bone structure or cartilage connectivity strength to take the modern increase in explosive inertial impact. They might be the mentally toughest, bravest dudes on the planet, but it makes exactly zero difference. I can recall Chris Collingsworth's son trying his dammedest to play physical safety for us. Every full head-on collision was a shoulder cracker. Brave, but wrong career. .... and as we've seen with increasing S&C from early ages, a higher and higher % of football athletes find their bones and connectors giving way in time. No amount of "muscle" cures this --- helps a bit, sure --- but the natural human bone and cartilage construction is reaching its limits for almost everyone.

"Nature" has genetically programmed strengths and connectors so as to deal with "normally-expected" strain levels "in the state of nature" with a safety factor of about 2 1/2-to-3 times that. Not "infinite." Mother Nature doesn't waste energy and materials in the game of life statistical plan. The basic proteins themselves have upper limits of adaptability.

I've wondered for a little while now if we are about to see only a select set of genetic strains survive this increased violence --- this doesn't have to be interpreted in some "socio-cultural" sense IEers, I'm a scientist and a biologist not a commentator. To my scientific eye, all the various ethnicities have wide spreads of variations in each of them (Sumos vs the average Japanese male if one insists on a smack in the face example.) Within any block of genetic strains, there might be only a small number capable of a little extra strength-plus-flexibility to snap back intact from a violent assault at certain levels. "Legacies" in the future may mean well more than they do now.

Beyond that, My science reading tells me that we still have a way to go in the explosive acceleration category. If so, people will try to get there. Ultimately there MIGHT arrive the day when accelerative explosiveness overcomes ANY person's connectivity strength. Then EVERYONE's in the hospital, OR the game changes as far as added "armor" is concerned. At age 85, I'll probably get out of here before that challenges any integrity of the game. Over my 70 years of fandom though, it feels like it's coming.

Great post...does it explain what we need at DT?

 

[Old Man Mike]

I know that you're continuing a meme joke, but DT ... yes, it affects the whole squad, but maybe the "slower" your field confrontations the less your cartilages will consistently be overmatched. But look at even Jagusah with hs torn pectoral (I believe it was.) Even THAT monster can go beyond his connectors.

My brother was at a weightlifting club when he was young. A world contender power-lifter was benching --- OVER benching. His chest muscle tore away right from his sternum in the lift and, as Tim said, "rolled up in a very tight, very small, ball of solid muscle over to his side." Point being: even if you're not colliding at warp seed in the middle of the D Backfield and dying from brain damage, you can tear yourself apart throwing moving masses around. The body can literally be only pushed so far.

 

[NDWarrior]

I know that you're continuing a meme joke, but DT ... yes, it affects the whole squad, but maybe the "slower" your field confrontations the less your cartilages will consistently be overmatched. But look at even Jagusah with hs torn pectoral (I believe it was.) Even THAT monster can go beyond his connectors.

My brother was at a weightlifting club when he was young. A world contender power-lifter was benching --- OVER benching. His chest muscle tore away right from his sternum in the lift and, as Tim said, "rolled up in a very tight, very small, ball of solid muscle over to his side." Point being: even if you're not colliding at warp seed in the middle of the D Backfield and dying from brain damage, you can tear yourself apart throwing moving masses around. The body can literally be only pushed so far.

I have some serious thoughts on this a la my TB remarks in the past. He has a lack of proprioception that likely makes him, although very athletic in many respects: speed, throwing the ball, etc.) susceptible to clumsy and football injuries (wasn't he even injured for LAX last Spring?) And even that IMO and in my own experience is a result of imbalances in the entire human skeletal and anatomical form (for some people of course, not everyone). Teenage and early 20 year olds may not experience it as much (they're young and healthy!) but as they get older, issues will present if they posses these structural imbalances. I think some players despite their strong "measurables" are dealing with these challenges and it comes out in the form of damaging injuries. It also affects a QB's ability to have "composure in the pocket" as even the brain doesn't operate as efficiently and a QB with these issues panics at the slightest sign of a blitz. Again, obviously, we see the great QBs stand in there and still keep eyes downfield and make throws to open receivers while some tuck and run at the slightest sign of trouble. it's about how efficient the body develops for an individual (or maldevelops - is that a word?) due to a number of environmental/nutritional/epigentic reasons) and how that maldevelopment leads to major structural imbalances as the body adapts in strange ways to accommodate these imbalances. A big one IMO, for example, is f---ed up airway issues from nasopharynx down to the back of the throat pharynx (narrowed and prone to obstruct at night sleeping). The human body will adapt to this situation and create all kinds if structural imbalances - rolled shoulders/forward head syndrome, forward pivoted hips, tight hips, very tight back muscles, back issues, foot issues, all to optimize a compromised airway as the brain wants a maximized airway to breath. Individuals with these structural issues are also more likely to develop chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) as the football hits have a more damaging effect on their brains. It's all connected and STRUCTURE = FUNCTION; imbalanced structure = malfunctioning. (I've been studying this shit for 15+ years so I don't expect everyone to understand it from a few paragraphs.) I know you guys like to keep these channels to football and I get it, but this is a real thing and I'll leave it at that.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

As someone who brings very little to this site other than the occasional jest, I truly appreciate your thoughts and insight. You are a valuable piece to IE and I thank you.

WHOOOA, I bring way less to the table then you do. I also appreciate OMM. Even if my adhd only allows me to read the first paragraph. Its usually a really inciteful paragraph.

 

[irishnd31]

WHOOOA, I bring way less to the table then you do. I also apricate OMM. Even if my adhd only allows me to read the first paragraph. Its usually a really inciteful paragraph.

 

[dublinirish]

Absolute violent levels of Midwestern humility there OMM!!

 

[Dale]

I was pretty unaware that many teams came out so few this winter. Hopefully spring is boring and a lot of these teams have more holes than expected.

 

[IrishLion]

Dabo needs to settle the fuck down. Getting a little too “free market” at Clemson for my tastes

 

[calvegas04]

Dabo needs to settle the fuck down. Getting a little too “free market” at Clemson for my tastes

Hope he can remember all the new names coming in

 

[Dale]

2024 Blue Chip Ratio Teams

Ohio State - 6
Georgia - 6
Alabama - 9
Notre Dame - 8
Clemson - 3
Texas A&M - 14
Oregon - 10
Oklahoma - 15
Texas - 5
LSU - 16
Florida - 5
Miami - 11
Penn State - 6
USC - 12
Michigan - 12
Auburn - 16

Expanding the above, these are the teams that met the 2024 Blue Chip Ratio. Of these 16 teams, half took double digit transfers (so far). Oregon was the only one who had more than 9 wins.

Basically ND is line portal wise with all other teams that recruit well out of HS and had good seasons.

 

[stlnd01]

2024 Blue Chip Ratio Teams

Ohio State - 6
Georgia - 6
Alabama - 9
Notre Dame - 8
Clemson - 3
Texas A&M - 14
Oregon - 10
Oklahoma - 15
Texas - 5
LSU - 16
Florida - 5
Miami - 11
Penn State - 6
USC - 12
Michigan - 12
Auburn - 16

Expanding the above, these are the teams that met the 2024 Blue Chip Ratio. Of these 16 teams, half took double digit transfers (so far). Oregon was the only one who had more than 9 wins.

Basically ND is line portal wise with all other teams that recruit well out of HS and had good seasons.

This here.

I know that Portal Season is very exciting and full of potential, and then gives us a new reason to self-flagellate when we see some hot shit transfer chase a bag elsewhere.

But the last couple of years would suggest that the teams that win the most games during actual Football Season mostly grow their own rosters and use the portal selectively to fill in weak spots. As we do. Carry on, Marcus. Carry on.

 

[notredomer23]

The lack of COVID year players certainly helped calm the portal down a bit. I’m glad that era is largely over outside of a handful of players.

 

[Dale]

Lot of interesting #s or feedback

 

[Dale]

Could be quality depth at SDE, but I imagine looking for bigger role (w/ bag)

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Could be quality depth at SDE, but I imagine looking for bigger FEED bag)

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