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We can tell. You might want to rub a couple more brain cells together before firing off your next post.

McKee is a great QB with very little talent around him because Stanford has basically self-sanctioned over the last 5 years by refusing to adapt to the early signing period.

Bluto is right. When you started arguing that Book, the all-time winningest QB in NDFB history, wasn't much better than Pyne, I assumed you were either doing a bit or seriously brain- damaged. But then you doubled down on it multiple times, using such insightful comparisons as "Pyne wouldn't start at Stanford over McKee." No shit?

Your position is indefensibly stupid, and those here who chose to respond to you have been much more polite than you've deserved.
Right, and Pyne's littered with talent this season.
We can tell. You might want to rub a couple more brain cells together before firing off your next post.

McKee is a great QB with very little talent around him because Stanford has basically self-sanctioned over the last 5 years by refusing to adapt to the early signing period.

Bluto is right. When you started arguing that Book, the all-time winningest QB in NDFB history, wasn't much better than Pyne, I assumed you were either doing a bit or seriously brain- damaged. But then you doubled down on it multiple times, using such insightful comparisons as "Pyne wouldn't start at Stanford over McKee." No shit?

Your position is indefensibly stupid, and those here who chose to respond to you have been much more polite than you've deserved.
No talent, that must be why Tanner went 13-29 and 115yrds last game. First round draft pick lmao stfu you freaking bozo, I don't give a shit about the projected draft stock of Stanford's QB or any of your other idiotic takes that make you look like an asshat. You thought you'd sound smart like you know football because you regurgitated some stupid ass take you heard on ESPN, but you ended up making an ass of yourself by not using that smooth brain of yours to Google his actual numbers. Then you got angry that I pointed it out and threw a hissy fit like a little girl on her first period. Grow a freaking brain pal (and a pair of balls while you're at it sissy)
 
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We can tell. You might want to rub a couple more brain cells together before firing off your next post.

McKee is a great QB with very little talent around him because Stanford has basically self-sanctioned over the last 5 years by refusing to adapt to the early signing period.

Bluto is right. When you started arguing that Book, the all-time winningest QB in NDFB history, wasn't much better than Pyne, I assumed you were either doing a bit or seriously brain- damaged. But then you doubled down on it multiple times, using such insightful comparisons as "Pyne wouldn't start at Stanford over McKee." No shit?

Your position is indefensibly stupid, and those here who chose to respond to you have been much more polite than you've deserved.
Drew Pyne is 5-1 as the ND QB, remember that when you act like their record tells the whole story because the stats don't support any of the bullshit you just spewed. Calling a QB who's stats are worse than Pyne’s a first round draft pick just because you heard some other moron say it is indefensibly stupid and only a jackass would insert themselves into the conversation to make that idiotic point. Next time look at the actual performance of the QB who's balls you're dragging across your face so you don't look like an idiot parroting another idiot.
 
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Drew Pyne is 5-1 as the ND QB, remember that when you act like their record tells the whole story because the stats don't support any of the bullshit you just spewed. Calling a QB who's stats are worse than Pyne’s a "first round draft pick" just because you heard some other moron say it is indefensibly stupid and only a jackass would insert themselves into the conversation to make that idiotic point. Next time look at the actual performance of the QB who's balls you're dragging across your face so you don't look like an idiot parroting another idiot.
 

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We can tell. You might want to rub a couple more brain cells together before firing off your next post.

McKee is a great QB with very little talent around him because Stanford has basically self-sanctioned over the last 5 years by refusing to adapt to the early signing period.

Bluto is right. When you started arguing that Book, the all-time winningest QB in NDFB history, wasn't much better than Pyne, I assumed you were either doing a bit or seriously brain- damaged. But then you doubled down on it multiple times, using such insightful comparisons as "Pyne wouldn't start at Stanford over McKee." No shit?

Your position is indefensibly stupid, and those here who chose to respond to you have been much more polite than you've deserved.
Lmao Tanner's 15TDs and 7INTs all last season was just mind boggling, how can any QB do that without being a first round draft pick?!?!? It's not like those projections ever change or anything 🤔. I'm sure he'll be drafted top 10 because some bozo analyst told you he would and like a dummy you didn't have the critical thinking skills to question it.
 

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We can tell. You might want to rub a couple more brain cells together before firing off your next post.

McKee is a great QB with very little talent around him because Stanford has basically self-sanctioned over the last 5 years by refusing to adapt to the early signing period.

Bluto is right. When you started arguing that Book, the all-time winningest QB in NDFB history, wasn't much better than Pyne, I assumed you were either doing a bit or seriously brain- damaged. But then you doubled down on it multiple times, using such insightful comparisons as "Pyne wouldn't start at Stanford over McKee." No shit?

Your position is indefensibly stupid, and those here who chose to respond to you have been much more polite than you've deserved.
The fact that you're a staff member who went on an insult filled rant over Ian Book and your shitty take on Tanner is even more pathetic. Definitely leaving this site now that I know it has jackasses like you running it. But first, here's your boyfriend Ian Book's NFL QBR just for you, it's a whopping 2.8, but yea nobody compares to him...fuck off jackass

 

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The fact that you're a staff member who went on an insult filled rant over Ian Book and your shitty take on Tanner is even more pathetic. Definitely leaving this site now that I know it has jackasses like you running it. But first, here's your boyfriend Ian Book's NFL QBR just for you, it's a whopping 2.8, but yea nobody compares to him...fuck off jackass


Gotta make it to the league to have that QBR. Something your boyfriends Drew Pyne and Phil Jurkovec will never know anything about.

Smell ya later, stinky
 

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Gotta make it to the league to have that QBR. Something your boyfriends Drew Pyne and Phil Jurkovec will never know anything about.

Smell ya later, stinky
Yes, have to make it to the league to have a 2.8 QBR Einstein, that doesn't exactly make him stand out from Drew Pyne who's also a shit QB now does it. But I'm sure Pyne could never achieve the God like status of having a 2.8 QBR in the NFL, great point asshat. Every coach that's went in on Book has regretted so far, he's nearly as trash as Pyne whether you like it or not.
 

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Gotta make it to the league to have that QBR. Something your boyfriends Drew Pyne and Phil Jurkovec will never know anything about.

Smell ya later, stinky
And "smell ya later stinky"? Did you all get together and say "hey let's act like 4yr olds today"? Was that supposed to be an insult or were you trying to make yourself look like a stupid child?
 

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It’s quite an achievement to make it to the league as a QB, as it is with all positions. Usually less than 10 QBs are drafted each year, and a handful of UDFAs will stick onto practice squads.

Many successful college QBs never find success in the league for a variety of reasons. It’s the best league in the world, and only a small percentage of QBs can make their mark. Book was overdrafted, by no fault of his own, but he achieved a lot at ND despite certain passing limitations. That being said, if you go back and watch Book’s play as a redshirt sophomore (his first full season as a starter), you can visibly noticed that Book is way ahead of Pyne at the same point in their careers - third year in college.
 

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And "smell ya later stinky"? Did you all get together and say "hey let's act like 4yr olds today"? Was that supposed to be an insult or were you trying to make yourself look like a stupid child?

You are going on a bit of tirade. Some “insults” directed at you may be childish or have questioned your intelligence, but you are the one taking it to another level with swearing.

In hindsight, is it not childish to resort to swearing because someone doesn’t agree with you?

I know you are new to this board to an extent, and I felt that you did back up your arguements in this thread with some good points and evidence, but you won’t last if you resort to this type of response and behaviour every time someone disagrees with you. If you are done as you said you were, then what I’m saying know truly doesn’t matter. But if you want to stick around, and it could be best if you do, best this board is better with good back and forward discussions, then take my advice into consideration.
 

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It’s quite an achievement to make it to the league as a QB, as it is with all positions. Usually less than 10 QBs are drafted each year, and a handful of UDFAs will stick onto practice squads.

Many successful college QBs never find success in the league for a variety of reasons. It’s the best league in the world, and only a small percentage of QBs can make their mark. Book was overdrafted, by no fault of his own, but he achieved a lot at ND despite certain passing limitations. That being said, if you go back and watch Book’s play as a redshirt sophomore (his first full season as a starter), you can visibly noticed that Book is way ahead of Pyne at the same point in their careers - third year in college.
So you can tell that Book's so far ahead of Pyne after 6 games that he's "not comparable" to him because Pyne's stats are slightly worse, or because all QBs develop at the same rate? I never denied Book's better, I said to act like he far exceeds anything Pyne could achieve after 6 games is ridiculous.
 

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You are going on a bit of tirade. Some “insults” directed at you may be childish or have questioned your intelligence, but you are the one taking it to another level with swearing.

Key part of that is the fact that I'm responding to being insulted. I'm not obligated to not swear at someone who's already stuping to that level when up to that point no insults were exchanged at all.
 

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You are going on a bit of tirade. Some “insults” directed at you may be childish or have questioned your intelligence, but you are the one taking it to another level with swearing.

In hindsight, is it not childish to resort to swearing because someone doesn’t agree with you?

I know you are new to this board to an extent, and I felt that you did back up your arguements in this thread with some good points and evidence, but you won’t last if you resort to this type of response and behaviour every time someone disagrees with you. If you are done as you said you were, then what I’m saying know truly doesn’t matter. But if you want to stick around, and it could be best if you do, best this board is better with good back and forward discussions, then take my advice into consideration.
And let alone being insulted by a staff member who inserted themselves into the conversation out of nowhere when up to that point, it had been an adult discussion. I don't have any obligation to treat someone who's acting like a fucking child like an adult, and this comment below was acting like a fucking child with no provocation whatsoever other than questioning whether Tanner is truly a 1st round draft pick.

"We can tell. You might want to rub a couple more brain cells together before firing off your next post."

"I assumed you were either doing a bit or seriously brain- damaged. But then you doubled down on it multiple times, using such insightful comparisons as "Pyne wouldn't start at Stanford over McKee." No shit?
 

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So you can tell that Book's so far ahead of Pyne after 6 games that he's "not comparable" to him because Pyne's stats are slightly worse, or because all QBs develop at the same rate? I never denied Book's better, I said to act like he far exceeds anything Pyne could achieve after 6 games is ridiculous.

This is true, yes, because players get better with more experience. But, after watching Pyne's sample size of six games, is quite a fair assumption to say that he won't come close to what Ian Book did. Pyne hasn't shown much as a passer unless it's been against abysmal defenses, and even then he still had his struggles, and is not the natural runner that Book is/was.

Pyne's job is not safe heading into next season. Book never had a real QB controversy, because his play prevented it. Book wasn't elite, but it was more than enough to be unseated as the starter. So Pyne may never get the chance to at least prove to many, including members of this board, if he can't maintain his starting position next season.
 

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Wow. This feels a bit like wandering into the wake of bar fight the next morning or something. Reps, Canada.
 

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When all else fails and stats don't align with your point, meaningless empty rhetoric always saves the day.
this is rich.

the guy saying he doesnt even know our opponents, that the playbook is too complicated (because we throw 30 times to one guy, this sounds pretty fucking simple), has provided NO stats to allign with his point, claims someone elses points are meaningless empty rhetoric.
 
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So you can tell that Book's so far ahead of Pyne after 6 games that he's "not comparable" to him because Pyne's stats are slightly worse, or because all QBs develop at the same rate? I never denied Book's better, I said to act like he far exceeds anything Pyne could achieve after 6 games is ridiculous.
I've attached the stat lines from both your Boy's Pyne and Book's first 6 starts. To act like Book didn't far exceed Pyne's production is to just deny facts. It's not even close. Book is head and shoulders above Pyne
 

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I've attached the stat lines from both your Boy's Pyne and Book's first 6 starts. To act like Book didn't far exceed Pyne's production is to just deny facts. It's not even close. Book is head and shoulders above Pyne

But his start against UNLV was almost as good as one of Book’s worst statistical outputs in 3 years against far better competition, how can we be sure?
 

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Book was a game manager that didn't have the tools to beat elite competition, but had enough accuracy, elusiveness, and awareness to put up some points and beat most teams.

Pyne is so far away from being these things. He is striving just to get to game manager status. Right now he is probably the worst starter on the offense.
 

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To be fair, Book had a much better and experienced WR room to work with than Pyne does. I don't think that would change things too much, but if we're going to be fair we can't exclude that fact.
 

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Book was a game manager that didn't have the tools to beat elite competition, but had enough accuracy, elusiveness, and awareness to put up some points and beat most teams.

Pyne is so far away from being these things. He is striving just to get to game manager status. Right now he is probably the worst starter on the offense.
I wish that he would have looked for and thrown the 15-yard middle/middle seam more, the deep ball, and been more comfortable in a pocket and working through progressions.

He would have been a stud because he certainly had the mentality to be elite.
 

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And let alone being insulted by a staff member who inserted themselves into the conversation out of nowhere when up to that point, it had been an adult discussion. I don't have any obligation to treat someone who's acting like a fucking child like an adult, and this comment below was acting like a fucking child with no provocation whatsoever other than questioning whether Tanner is truly a 1st round draft pick.

"We can tell. You might want to rub a couple more brain cells together before firing off your next post."

"I assumed you were either doing a bit or seriously brain- damaged. But then you doubled down on it multiple times, using such insightful comparisons as "Pyne wouldn't start at Stanford over McKee." No shit?
This is an adult thread. We can say whatever the hell we want.

Whiskey can’t change the rules just because he doesn’t like the way we’re doing it!
 

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This is an adult thread. We can say whatever the hell we want.

Whiskey can’t change the rules just because he doesn’t like the way we’re doing it!
Whisky.

The wee lass doesn’t even know how to spell her own name.
 

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Whisky.

The wee lass doesn’t even know how to spell her own name.
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If we take a grad transfer QB, does that not render the possibility that Buchner transfers? If that happens, would we then need back to back grad transfers in 2023 and 2024 or a guy that can stay 2 years? I assume that would also mean all the chips are in the grad transfer basket and also CJ Carr would need to be a home run, developed quickly by the staff, and be ready to be called upon very early in his college career. I see no situation where not landing a legitimate QB in the 2023 class is not a huge disaster. What's the scoop on Angeli in practice performance? Is he a future dog?
 

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If we take a grad transfer QB, does that not render the possibility that Buchner transfers? If that happens, would we then need back to back grad transfers in 2023 and 2024 or a guy that can stay 2 years? I assume that would also mean all the chips are in the grad transfer basket and also CJ Carr would need to be a home run, developed quickly by the staff, and be ready to be called upon very early in his college career. I see no situation where not landing a legitimate QB in the 2023 class is not a huge disaster. What's the scoop on Angeli in practice performance? Is he a future dog?
I guess that could depend on how Angeli develops. Maybe?
 
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