2023-24 Notre Dame Women's Basketball

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Team has no height. Plays terrible defense to be honest. Definately will be a good team but not great. Ivey needs to get some big ones to rebound and they will be in good shape.
The need to learn to find a body and be physical. They are just letting SC's length go over the top at the boards.

That and they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in the second quarter.
 

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haven't seen this embarrassing of performance from the girls team in the regular season in quite a while. USC is making our irish look like a non power 5 team. i know they'll improve as the year goes on but they look really bad right now on both sides of the ball.
 

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near the end of the 3rd and i'm done as i can't watch anymore of this embarrassing crap.
 

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Wow. Been in meetings since the end of the first and didn't expect that type of collapse. Hopefully we at least see a victory from the men tonight.
 

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yeah, this is ugly. they are getting layup after layup and ND is just watching it seems.
 

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Watched the first half of this (given the outcome might not watch the second.)
A few first half impressions:
1. I didn't see an offense. There didn't seem an obvious plan of any kind. Maybe SoCar is just too good, but I wonder what the girls thought they should be doing? certainly not just watching Hildalgo dribble around (no matter how good she is at it.)
2. Defensively, they were just overmatched at the physical areas in the paint (at almost every position.) That wore them down, I'd say mentally more than physically. Even mid-sized SoCar players went over and through ND "bigs". I see no solution to this but it might only be a problem vs SoCar and a couple of other teams --- we'll see, I guess. It definitely wasn't just the 6'7" girl.
3. No one can guard inside AND outside when in zones, but I noticed that most of SoCar's damage came on the side of the floor opposite Citron, which probably means she hustled better and was smarter getting back to the shooters than the other wings. Briefly, Citron and Risch seemed to have a good communication on their perimeter, but it doesn't make any difference if you're getting mugged down low.
4. Hildalgo is potentially spectacular (I don't like the stop and flex crap while the opponent comes back at you and your back turned, but she'll grow out of that juvenile egocentrism --- probably.) Needless to say she WAS the offensive show. She is a defensive pest, but not yet an all-around defender --- she's VERY small and a risk-taker. But thanks that we have her.
5. SoCar was WAY faster than us --- their point guards faster than Hildalgo as well (by miles.) WAY more athletic. We competed for a quarter and a bit more, but physically the book was written. The little girl from Fordham will not do us any good if we don't run an offense. That even suppresses Citron and Westbeld, to say nothing of Watson and the subs.

Disappointed for sure. Gerad Parker needs to design better offensive schemes at the least (Wait! This is Basketball I'm talking about not ND Football right? --- wish I could appreciate the joke more, but ... sigh.)
 

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... random note: Colorado just demolished LSU. Colorado is (theoretically) not as good as SoCar, and LSU was rated number 1 --- last season's champ with almost all returning and adding two top transfers, including Louisville's Killer Kat Hailie Van Lith. (LSUs coach DID misplay her at point guard admittedly which hampered her death strokes.) Point? Maybe nothing. But high level teams often get crushed early nowadays, and can bounce back. .... my foolish optimism. I want to like watching this team.
 

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Is the current head coach the same as the old head coach? Methinks not, but replacing legends is hard.
 

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There were a couple of expected contributors out with injuries in the game yesterday. Bransford would have helped and Obinma, the forward from Pepperdine, would have really helped. She's a bulky 6-2 who can be difficult to move.
Their injuries are apparently short term, as opposed to Miles who will be back this season but who knows when.
 

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Hidalgo followed up her 31 point game against South Carolina with a 26 point game today
 

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and according to the radio broadcast she was on steal away from tying the freshmen record as she had 11 on the day.
 

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Ivey needs to manage Hildalgo with wisdom. She's a "Wild Talent" and still very immature. Can Ivey get her to cut back on the immaturity stuff and still lose none of the joi d'vivre that characterizes her play? I wish that the media would NOT come to her every chance that they get. She needs to grow up as well as be great at basketball.

Muffet had this problem with Arike. Arike never lost her pizazz but also never grew up enough to learn the whole game. As an outrageously uber-offensive talent, she "made the shots" and went on to her big WNBA career (where I've noticed some added maturity thankfully.) Hannah is at Arike's level of overall offensive skill. She'll be a huge part of lots of wins for us, but a few things that she does should drive Ivey crazy. ... and they are so easily fixable without crimping her game.
 

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it is official now that our irish signed last week the nation's top rated post player Kate Koval from New York city and Ukraine. just about every top program in the nation wanted her badly like UCONN, South Carolina, Louisville amongst others.
 

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Difficult not to get VERY optimistic about this. BIG girl. BIG hands. Willowy but stout legs.
Warns others not to get in her way yet can shoot the three, and is "offended" if you don't guard her out there.
Not sure we have had a center of these proportions since way back with Ruth Riley.
 

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Difficult not to get VERY optimistic about this. BIG girl. BIG hands. Willowy but stout legs.
Warns others not to get in her way yet can shoot the three, and is "offended" if you don't guard her out there.
Not sure we have had a center of these proportions since way back with Ruth Riley.
yeah Mike i've read several posts today on different social media sites where people have said the same thing about her possibly being the best post player we've signed since Ruth.
 

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Ivey needs to manage Hildalgo with wisdom. She's a "Wild Talent" and still very immature. Can Ivey get her to cut back on the immaturity stuff and still lose none of the joi d'vivre that characterizes her play? I wish that the media would NOT come to her every chance that they get. She needs to grow up as well as be great at basketball.

Muffet had this problem with Arike. Arike never lost her pizazz but also never grew up enough to learn the whole game. As an outrageously uber-offensive talent, she "made the shots" and went on to her big WNBA career (where I've noticed some added maturity thankfully.) Hannah is at Arike's level of overall offensive skill. She'll be a huge part of lots of wins for us, but a few things that she does should drive Ivey crazy. ... and they are so easily fixable without crimping her game.
Yes I watched a press conference where Ivey seemed to fawn over Hidalgo too much. And I have followed Arike's pro career (I live in Dallas) and she has under performed from the perspective of shooting percentage and having a complete offensive game. She tends to disappear for long periods of time, leaving her teammates to fill the gap. Great at last minute shot making but not necessarily at consistent performance. I have seen other good players come in and outshine her time and again. She is getting All-star bids but I feel like she has another gear she hasn't reached yet, that the truly great ones do.
 

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Looks like Citron went down with major injury. Possible ACL. Tough loss...
 

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yeah the Citron injury looked really bad but hopefully not an ACL like others on other social media sites think. haven't seen too many other teams play yet but Hannah Hildalgo has to be as good as any in the nation right now as she has scored over 70 pts in just three games and leads the nation in steals i believe.
 

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I'd be absolutely shocked if Citron isn't seriously injured. She got hit from the front and it pushed her knee back unnaturally. Couldn't get up, had to be helped off.
 

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I'd be absolutely shocked if Citron isn't seriously injured. She got hit from the front and it pushed her knee back unnaturally. Couldn't get up, had to be helped off.
Hopefully it's not as bad as indicated.
 
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