2020 ND Football Schedule Options

[T Town Tommy]

How many fans we think ND is going to allow assuming we play? Students only? 25%? Can't imagine it'd be much more than that. More curious to see what some schools like Alabama or Arkansas try to pull.

You could probably get 25-30K in Bryant Denny and still meet the social distancing requirements.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I bet they would distance groups of seats every six feet to allow family members to congregate.

Yes. There's no reason to force groups who intentionally purchase tickets together to socially distance from each other.

 

[calvegas04]

Only issue with getting people in and out of stadiums which out them bottle neck locations.

 

[domer13]

Only issue with getting people in and out of stadiums which out them bottle neck locations.

At the student Mass, we were dismissed by section, as well as having designated arrival times. Not sure if that would hold true for games.


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[drayer54]

Last year the lines to piss ran 60 yards long at time. Bathrooms were always a zoo. That could be fun.

Good luck enforcing anything at a tailgate.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Again why even risk having fans in attendance at games? None of the professional sports have fans in attendance. i suppose you can have the usual allotment or a few more of students spread out through the stadium social distancing; along with coaches and players families I suppose.

 

[notredomer23]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is very significant from the NCAA on eligibility adjustments this season.<br><br>Basically, if you play half the season and opt out or if the season is canceled before the halfway point, you don’t lose that year of eligibility. <a href="https://t.co/FtVLDSPuBn">https://t.co/FtVLDSPuBn</a></p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1293677988949766144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[notredomer23]

Again why even risk having fans in attendance at games? None of the professional sports have fans in attendance. i suppose you can have the usual allotment or a few more of students spread out through the stadium social distancing; along with coaches and players families I suppose.

MLS and NFL are doing fans depending on state. For example FC Dallas is expecting up to 5100 fans tonight at their match which would be 25% capacity. Texas's executive order actually allows up to 50%. So realistically, we might see some Texas football games with 50K fans...

I think 25% capacity is the right move. Outside, social distanced, mask required. The only place you'd be safer is your couch.

 

[calvegas04]

Cowboys are having fans

 

[drayer54]

If ND opened the floodgates and said every seat in the house is open, how many would show?

 

[317Irish]

I’m there.

 

[dad4aa]

Last year the lines to piss ran 60 yards long at time. Bathrooms were always a zoo. That could be fun.

Good luck enforcing anything at a tailgate.

There is no tailgating this year. That was already decided whether they allow fans in the stadium or not.

 

[NDdomer2]

I’m there.

Yep

 

[brick4956]

Lou Holtz really needs to be quite he has basically gone senile with the Normandy comment

 

[Irish#1]

Last year the lines to piss ran 60 yards long at time. Bathrooms were always a zoo. That could be fun.

Good luck enforcing anything at a tailgate.

It's all in the timing.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Not yet ND related, however, for those recruits enrolling early (January '21), would they be able to play for their school if it's a spring season and exhaust a year of eligibility?

 

[dublinirish]

Cowboys are having fans

great decision by well known great decision maker Jerry Jones

 

[texbender]

How many fans we think ND is going to allow assuming we play? Students only? 25%? Can't imagine it'd be much more than that. More curious to see what some schools like Alabama or Arkansas try to pull.

Dallas paper reporting that OU to allow 25% attendance for their games, +/- 21K.

 

[texbender]

Cowboys are having fans

Jones wants 50% (allowed by State and for his stadium equals about 50K). Washington not allowing fans this year.

 

[texbender]

If ND opened the floodgates and said every seat in the house is open, how many would show?

I'm hoping for fans to be allowed, and would attend my customary 2-3 games (this year those would be Duke, FSU, and Clemson).

What did ND decide to do as far as replacing WMU? SMU is looking for games......

 

[NDdomer2]

Not yet ND related, however, for those recruits enrolling early (January '21), would they be able to play for their school if it's a spring season and exhaust a year of eligibility?

I'd guess yes, but you also still need to be at 85 by then too so are you booting seniors/grads who maintained a year as well?

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I'd guess yes, but you also still need to be at 85 by then too so are you booting seniors/grads who maintained a year as well?

Yeah not sure how that would work. I am curious if the NCAA wouldn't make an exception and let the Spring season scholarship limit expand, or if they would deem the early enrollees as not eligible. Seems like those are the only two options.

 

[NDdomer2]

Yeah not sure how that would work. I am curious if the NCAA wouldn't make an exception and let the Spring season scholarship limit expand, or if they would deem the early enrollees as not eligible. Seems like those are the only two options.

I think you would almost have to let the early enrollees be allowed if you anticipate a large number of opt outs for draft

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I think you would almost have to let the early enrollees be allowed if you anticipate a large number of opt outs for draft

Fair, that's a good point. In most cases it will probably work itself out.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The Week's Matthew Walther just published an article titled "Let the boys play":

The game does not begin in the spring. College football is not vernal but autumnal. Nor is it pastoral. It does not foster prelapsarian illusions of a timeless existence for our species, as baseball foolishly does, but with each passing second on two, often simultaneously running, clocks reminds us of the ephemerality of terrestrial life. This is why it ends with bodies on the ground, lying there in stratonic clusters like the leaves in Homer and Vergil and Milton. The oldest and most venerable form of this game belongs, like the present state of mankind, to the fall.

There is no point in dissembling here. Like the vast majority of players and their families, head coaches, coordinators, members of training staffs, and apparently every living person in the state of Nebraska, I believe that this year’s college football season should proceed as scheduled. And I would rather see it be canceled entirely than relegated to the spring.

An entire column could profitably be devoted to the almost total lack of support for this position among sportswriters. The unanimous approval with which the recent decision of university presidents in the Big 10 and Pac 12 conferences to cancel football raises the age-old (and probably long-ago answered) question of whether most journalists actually enjoy the sport about which they are paid to write and opine. But in my limited space I would prefer to ask another question: What is really behind the decision of these two conferences?

It cannot be due solely to concerns about the health and safety of players themselves, who remain in any case able to opt out of the season with their scholarships intact. (There are currently 34 such players out of nearly 11,000 in the sport’s premier FBS division, some of whom intend to declare for next year’s NFL draft.) This point was made very ably during the recent player-run #WeWantToPlay campaign by Clemson’s Trevor Lawrence, a future first-round draft pick whose prospects would not be meaningfully affected by his sitting out:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Players being safe and taking all of the right precautions to try to avoid contracting covid because the season/ teammates safety is on the line. Without the season, as we’ve seen already, people will not social distance or wear masks and take the proper precautions</p>— Trevor Lawrence (@Trevorlawrencee) <a href="https://twitter.com/Trevorlawrencee/status/1292600604305612800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Meanwhile protocols established months ago have proven successful, with many schools failing to record even a single positive test for the coronavirus, much less outbreaks resulting in serious illness or death for anyone involved in the sport. The actual risk to the well-being of the athletes is minimal. In the same period during which the deaths of 11,000 or so persons under the age of 55 in this country have been attributed to the virus, some 189,000 have died of all other causes. The possibility of becoming one of these grim statistics is remote rather than non-existent. But it is not clear that Big 10 football is any more dangerous than the NHL, the MLB, the NBA, or the rumored American professional soccer league, some of which are conducting fall seasons in so-called "bubbles," complete with de-facto exceptions for fornication. (This is to say nothing of dozens of other purely voluntary outdoor activities in which millions of Americans are engaging as I write this, including rioting and the looting of our cities.) These young men have already enlisted themselves to play a violent game. If they were concerned about the vanishingly small but very real possibility of death or serious injury, they would not play college football.

This leaves us to consider other explanations. Behind the rhetoric about public health it is, I think, possible to detect somewhat baser motives for not wanting to have a season with no or reduced crowds, as was expected in both of the conferences that have canceled fall football. Suppose college ball were to be delayed until spring, as the Big 10 has floated; in addition to not foregoing millions of dollars in revenue from ticket sales, concessions, and merchandise, universities would no doubt be able to negotiate revised television contracts without the competition of the NFL. Schools in the Big 10 were already sharing an astonishing $781 million as of the 2019 season, a figure that has been increasingly exponentially for years. Imagine what they would be able to get for a college ball-starved audience in a season which traditionally belongs in the doldrums of sports television ratings. Such a delay would also give the universities and the conferences more time to devise a way out of the quandary surrounding the payment of athletes for the use of their names, images, and likenesses, and to prepare for the possibility of unionization.

College football has been played in autumn for more than a century and a half, during pandemics (including the Spanish Flu, which killed 850,000 Americans of all ages), the First and Second World Wars, the Great Depression, and the weekend immediately following the events of September 11, 2001. Such incongruities give no pause to those who insist that the game can be suspended or moved to a different season.

Can it? I am afraid that I have always had a different understanding of the game, and of the season: "Even as are the generations of leaves, such are those also of men. As for the leaves, the wind scattereth some upon the earth."

 

[BabyIrish]

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[deise mike]

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Surely Ohio State can play Michigan 4 times just for our entertainment.

 

[Irish YJ]

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That's cool. I figured the B10 would allow teams to jump temporarily. Nebraska for instance is an easy fit to the B12, who plays in an area less impacted overall than other regions. I can understand why IL teams are throwing in the towel.

PSU could try and fit into the ACC. OSU and scUM might be tough fits. Perhaps a new temporary conference will be birthed for this year for MW schools looking to play.

 

[NDdomer2]

So have these teams continued/started fall practices in hopes of playing this fall?

BIG is cluster fuck right now as far as decision making.

 

[Irish YJ]

So have these teams continued/started fall practices in hopes of playing this fall?

BIG is cluster fuck right now as far as decision making.

Weird how they canceled, yet now reported many, or even most, wanted to play. Lends credence that the decision was political and CYA. The conference can now remove itself from liability...

Wonder if some of the PAC schools will now come out and say the same. I can definitely see Utah looking for a temp home.