2020 ND Football Schedule Options

[NDRock]

It’s definitely a little odd on the surface, but it makes some sense when you break it down. From everyone I’ve talked to, they had a lot of very smart people put together a plan in the spring of how to make classes/sports a fall reality. Then they executed it with incredible diligence and great results, surpassing expectations, having a 100% clear football team and 99.9% clear student populous.

So now the discussions are... we’re hitting all benchmarks, why would we would change from our path? So in a sense ND is leading by doing everything right (for now), and there isn’t anything any of the decision makers at ND can point to as justification to cancel. And that won’t change until there is a concrete reason to do so.

Makes sense. Glad they are going about it the way they are.

 

[Irish YJ]

Lou Holtz reacts to Big Ten move to postpone football season: 'We got to move on with this country"
https://www.foxnews.com/media/lou-holtz-reacts-big-ten-postpone-football

 

[Ndaccountant]

Let me just get this out of the way....I am eating up the Buckeye tears. They were in position to not only get back to the CFP, but win it this year. They were primed. Now they must watch from the sidelines. Warms the heart like the first sip of a fine whiskey. F*ck those assholes.

 

[Irish YJ]

Let me just get this out of the way....I am eating up the Buckeye tears. They were in position to not only get back to the CFP, but win it this year. They were primed. Now they must watch from the sidelines. Warms the heart like the first sip of a fine whiskey. F*ck those assholes.

If the ACC, B12, and SEC play in the fall, while the B10 and PAC play in the spring, guessing we'd have split champions. I hate the thought of that. OSU would be big favs out of that group.

 

[Ndaccountant]

If the ACC, B12, and SEC play in the fall, while the B10 and PAC play in the spring, guessing we'd have split champions. I hate the thought of that. OSU would be big favs out of that group.

If I was Wade, Fields, etc., no way in hell am I playing in the Spring. My focus from this day forward would be the NFL draft.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

If I was Wade, Fields, etc., no way in hell am I playing in the Spring. My focus from this day forward would be the NFL draft.

^This. I believe they also have a couple linemen who are prospective day1 and day 2 picks who would also sit out and focus on NFL draft. Oh and not to mention their best WR Chris Olave who is a late 1 early 2nd would not play also...


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[Irish YJ]

If I was Wade, Fields, etc., no way in hell am I playing in the Spring. My focus from this day forward would be the NFL draft.

I think we'll see a lot of players have differing opinions. For instance, TL is very vocal about wanting to play. Not sure if that would change if the ACC decided to delay to spring. He'll likely be the #1 pick, and would be even if he opted out (fall or spring). I just think some will want to play regardless, and some will prefer to sit out. Purely my opinion, but I think only a handful of players would want to sit out and go directly to the NFL.

I'm really surprised the NFL elected not to have a supplemental draft this year. Could have been significant, especially now.

 

[Irish#1]

I may end up being wrong about this (and to be clear, I really hope I am) but the few guys pounding their chest over the B1G and Pac-12 cancelling need to explain to me how this isn't going to happen to the ACC or SEC. Looking past the dysfunctional mess that is the Pac-12, everyone appears to agree that the Big-10 is not doing this to be altruistic. That means the math is stacked against having a football season, and the math is going to be the same everywhere.

There is so much money the B1G is leaving on the table by walking away. Thinking that the people in charge of the B1G are doing it for political theater or because they haven't appropriately weighed their options seems like a tall assumption. I don't see a scenario where Michigan/Ohio State/Penn State/Nebraska/Wisconsin/Iowa all willingly walk away from their biggest advertising boon, piss off their big-name midwestern donors, and hurt all other sports that rely on football income without thoroughly exploring all options and coming to the conclusion that they are essentially forced to do it by the reality of the situation.

The Big Ten isn't some powderpuff organization that takes hits of a few hundred million dollars lightly. They speak money, prestige, and national brand recognition as well as any large business in the country. I find it hard to believe they made this decision without it being their only option once they looked at the information. You can argue with what the underlying cause of the math is, but like I said the math is the math.

This begs the question, though. If "the underlying cause" is liability stemming from unreasonable risks to student athletes, then yes, those conferences/ programs still hoping to move forward look greedy and unethical.

But if it's instead a more cynical calculation about lost revenue from being unable to fill stadiums, the ability to claim insurance monies due to COVID-related cancellations, etc., then it suddenly looks much more cowardly and self-serving, particularly because it's going to hose a bunch of kids who were counting on an opportunity to compete.

I hAte to sound like a broken record but this is about liability. The president’s are making the decision to postpone and the last thing they want is just one athlete to contract COVID and die. The first time it happens it will be front page and headline news everywhere. I realize the odds are small but they don’t want to gamble.

 

[greyhammer90]

I hAte to sound like a broken record but this is about liability. The president’s are making the decision to postpone and the last thing they want is just one athlete to contract COVID and die. The first time it happens it will be front page and headline news everywhere. I realize the odds are small but they don’t want to gamble.

Maybe for PR purposes, but I think the liability angle is overstated. For the college to be liable a player would have to show that he caught COVID as a result of football. That's practically impossible. How do you show that you received it from a football practice/game and not that trip to Walmart or walking through your dorm lobby?

Even if you somehow could guarantee that you caught it from a teammate, these guys hang out all the time outside of football. It's just as likely they would catch it while playing xbox on their own time than in a locker room. It's a virtual impossibility to show with any certainty what the source of the virus is.

 

[Luckylucci]

I really hope the ACC, BIG12, and SEC decide to play and it goes exceptionally well. Likely? No, but it’d be so delicious if it occurred.

 

[Sea Turtle]

https://omaha.com/sports/college/hu...cle_ef5bd995-3b11-5967-8e32-6d6cff4a1cab.html

 

[Irish#1]

Maybe for PR purposes, but I think the liability angle is overstated. For the college to be liable a player would have to show that he caught COVID as a result of football. That's practically impossible. How do you show that you received it from a football practice/game and not that trip to Walmart or walking through your dorm lobby?

Even if you somehow could guarantee that you caught it from a teammate, these guys hang out all the time outside of football. It's just as likely they would catch it while playing xbox on their own time than in a locker room. It's a virtual impossibility to show with any certainty what the source of the virus is.

I could be wrong, but I've heard several sports shows mention liability as a big factor. Absolutely agree about PR and that's the crux of this. Agree it would be difficult to trace, but that's really beside the point. The last thing a school presidents wants to see is (fill in whatever school you want) "OHIO STATE FOOTBALL PLAYER DIES FROM COVID|" .

If the B1G and PAC-12 let students on campus, they're being hypocrites.

Just heard the B1G commissioner's son plays FB for a school in the south that may play. Ironic!

 

[Huntr]

That article is duuummmbbb, dumb, dumb clickbait.

NE isn't leaving the mother humping B1G. That guy is just pissed there won't be football and and knows this is fresh meat for the knuckle draggers.

 

[Huntr]

Just heard the B1G commissioner's son plays FB for a school in the south that may play. Ironic!

His son plays for Miss St and Warren was asked about it yesterday. I'd have to dig up the tweet, but he said something to the effect of "I've been concentrating on conference business. Obviously, we have some family decisions to make."

 

[Irish#1]

It appears the Big-12 is now leaning towards playing which is huge IMO.

B1G postpones season, but will let student athletes continue to train up to 20 hours a week? Don't these knuckleheads realize that the players spend a low amount of time playing the game compare to practice? Chances of contacting COVID has to be greater by attending class and working out.

Another interesting thought is how this will affect the B1G and PAC-12 networks and their revenue? I can't imagine sponsors wanting to buy time when no sports are being broadcast.

 

[Sea Turtle]

It appears the Big-12 is now leaning towards playing which is huge IMO.

B1G postpones season, but will let student athletes continue to train up to 20 hours a week? Don't these knuckleheads realize that the players spend a low amount of time playing the game compare to practice? Chances of contacting COVID has to be greater by attending class and working out.

Another interesting thought is how this will affect the B1G and PAC-12 networks and their revenue? I can't imagine sponsors wanting to buy time when no sports are being broadcast.

This is all optics.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I could be wrong, but I've heard several sports shows mention liability as a big factor. Absolutely agree about PR and that's the crux of this. Agree it would be difficult to trace, but that's really beside the point. The last thing a school presidents wants to see is (fill in whatever school you want) "OHIO STATE FOOTBALL PLAYER DIES FROM COVID|" .

If the B1G and PAC-12 let students on campus, they're being hypocrites.

Just heard the B1G commissioner's son plays FB for a school in the south that may play. Ironic!

Nail on head. Penn State and Michigan are gonna have 30,000 to 40,000 students on campus, in dorms, in dining halls, in lecture halls. So as long as they're all paying tuition that's kosher, but 85 football players who test negative can't play football? GTFO

 

[dublinirish]

Pac 12 at dark is the best way to end a Saturday night

Casual! Hawaii Football says hii

 

[drayer54]

So are tickets on sale yet?

 

[notredomer23]

How many fans we think ND is going to allow assuming we play? Students only? 25%? Can't imagine it'd be much more than that. More curious to see what some schools like Alabama or Arkansas try to pull.

 

[stpeteirish]

Big 12 is looking to play their “plus one” games on Sept 12 and 19. Could we replace WMU with a Big 12 team? I’m thinking West Va might make sense.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Big 12 is looking to play their “plus one” games on Sept 12 and 19. Could we replace WMU with a Big 12 team? I’m thinking West Va might make sense.

Kind of like how things went when we played Iowa St in the Camping World Bowl....not to mention their date with UNLV is cancelled on the 19th.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I think students only would be cool.

 

[317Irish]

Kind of like how things went when we played Iowa St in the Camping World Bowl....not to mention their date with UNLV is cancelled on the 19th.

You just want our future HBC to get an early tour of the place, don’t ya?

 

[drayer54]

I think students only would be cool.

Can I sign up for an online class? How's this work?

 

[GATTACA!]

How many fans we think ND is going to allow assuming we play? Students only? 25%? Can't imagine it'd be much more than that. More curious to see what some schools like Alabama or Arkansas try to pull.

They will just have to distance fans every six feet. That's how many seats? 12?

 

[Irishize]

How many fans we think ND is going to allow assuming we play? Students only? 25%? Can't imagine it'd be much more than that. More curious to see what some schools like Alabama or Arkansas try to pull.

I’d say zero if you’re talking about fans like on this board. My understanding is that they will allow players’ family, ND band, ND employees & ND letter winners.

 

[Irishize]

They will just have to distance fans every six feet. That's how many seats? 12?

I bet they would distance groups of seats every six feet to allow family members to congregate. Regardless, home field advantage is out the window unless weather finally plays a factor when facing southern schools.

 

[domer13]

How many fans we think ND is going to allow assuming we play? Students only? 25%? Can't imagine it'd be much more than that. More curious to see what some schools like Alabama or Arkansas try to pull.

Notre Dame just had a Mass for Students this past Sunday, and this is how we were spaced (You'll have to hit play). It's hard to pin a number down for how many were actually in attendance, although I think it's safe to say that not all ND students came... We were given "tickets" with gate entrance, section, row and seat number, as well as expected entrance time.

Although it's hard to see in this clip, there were students sitting right next to each other (whether their assigned seat numbers were adjacent is not known to me), although most had single seats. No word yet as to what it will look like for football.

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[Sherm Sticky]

I didn’t think there would be any fans allowed in attendance for games in the fall if the season actually happens.


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