2019 Virginia Post Game Thread

[stlnd01]

No mention of Kareem in here? Dude was a beast from start to finish. One play he pretty much threw the O lineman AT the QB like a rag doll - I think he had three blockers on one play and still collapsed the pocket. Straight up monster.
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That was an absurd play. He pushed a tackle straight back into the QB, then he and one of the DTs just ate the guy for lunch.

 

[stlnd01]

He and Vaughn can still save a year of eligibility if they don't go over four games this year. I don't think that would be an insane course of action given that ND will probably lose all four of its starters after this year.

Is a four-game redshirt the plan? Agree that makes some sense for one of them, but which one? Seems like something to settle on shortly.
Vaughn played in the 4th quarter Saturday, which seems a waste if trying to save him. He’s appeared in two if not three games already now.
Griffith I don’t recall seeing since the Louisville game. But he probably needs more game experience than Vaughn at this point, and has more eligibility remaining.

 

[Irish#1]

Aside from the personal ties, lower tier P5 jobs are the kind of places that pursue top coordinators for their head coaching vacancies. I mean, that's where they got their current coach. And Notre Dame's academics make their assistants a natural fit for Vanderbilt's culture.

From Lea's point of view, there are a limited number of these opportunities and it's not a job like Tennessee where he'll shoulder ridiculous expectations. And I'm sure it would be a massive raise from his current generous salary.

Bingo

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Is a four-game redshirt the plan? Agree that makes some sense for one of them, but which one? Seems like something to settle on shortly.
Vaughn played in the 4th quarter Saturday, which seems a waste if trying to save him. He’s appeared in two if not three games already now.
Griffith I don’t recall seeing since the Louisville game. But he probably needs more game experience than Vaughn at this point, and has more eligibility remaining.

Yeah, if ever there was a plan the Crawford injury may be throwing a wrench into it.

 

[ThePiombino]

Nobody leads us to the playoffs if the WRs don't get open on time. This includes Phil on his best days.

Expand vision to see what's really wrong with the offense.

lol interesting take. Wrong, but interesting...I guess.

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[GowerND11]

Everything has been covered already, but one thing I really like about Lea is this: He schemes to make a team play an entire game almost perfect. He knew their QB could run, and that could cause some damage and open up a host of issues. His decision to play some zone, stuff the run and give up some (at times too many) passing yards was based on his understanding that there is no way it could be done all. game. long. His plan worked.

 

[IrishBoognish]

Everything has been covered already, but one thing I really like about Lea is this: He schemes to make a team play an entire game almost perfect. He knew their QB could run, and that could cause some damage and open up a host of issues. His decision to play some zone, stuff the run and give up some (at times too many) passing yards was based on his understanding that there is no way it could be done all. game. long. His plan worked.

this is a great post.

I wanted to say I've just become spoiled in knowing that our D will come out in the 2nd half with answers. It feels real good.

 

[PigtownIrish]

The RBs seemed to take advantage of one of the best OLs in the country when two TE were added to it.

This. Our best offense was with Kmet and Tremble on the field. At this point I want to see these TEs along with Claypool, Young, and an RB. I think Tremble gives us more than a 3rd WR especially with Finke’s struggles.

 

[BobbyMac]

The middle of the field was open the entire fourth quarter against Georgia. Kirby was like "well, why defend it if he isn't going to throw there." Maybe this is something he can work on against Bowling Green when there isn't as much pressure.

Seeing over Mustipher ... Easy.

Seeing over Patterson ... Fuhgeddabowdit!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The RBs seemed to take advantage of one of the best OLs in the country when two TE were added to it.

True, and maybe that's the answer going forward. We lean on 12 personnel, take some weight off Book's shoulders, and use play-action to shore up his down-field throws.

 

[BabyIrish]

True, and maybe that's the answer going forward. We lean on 12 personnel, take some weight off Book's shoulders, and use play-action to shore up his down-field throws.

Tremble was laying people out at the end of the game. I’d totally be on board with this if the TEs keep playing with that nasty streak.

 

[Luckylucci]

In Jamie U's re-watch notes he said this was the best the TE position has blocked in awhile. I'd agree, not sure the last time they blocked that well for an entire game.

 

[Riddickulous]

The blocking on that last Tony Jones TD was a thing of beauty. If we can get a consistent running game going... hoo, boy.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

You can really see the difference in talent between Notre Dame and Virginia on the lines. Virginia has good athletes at skill positions and DB. But they are not in the same league in the trenches as a top 10 team.


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[koonja]

I think our OL is getting sneaky good. They've had some unique challenges so far and I think that's going to really help them vs. USC and Michigan.

And Michigan is going to be a really tough win, don't kid yourself.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I think our OL is getting sneaky good. They've had some unique challenges so far and I think that's going to really help them vs. USC and Michigan.

And Michigan is going to be a really tough win, don't kid yourself.

SP+ has Michigan as a favorite over ND right now.

 

[ACamp1900]

And Michigan is going to be a really tough win, don't kid yourself.

Agreed, if anything the Badger Beatdown was what they needed....

 

[Wild Bill]

Michigan will be tough unless Iowa or Penn State kick their teeth in before they play ND. I just see the wheels falling completely off if they get embarrassed again. Could be wrong.

 

[EvilleIrish]

In Jamie U's re-watch notes he said this was the best the TE position has blocked in awhile. I'd agree, not sure the last time they blocked that well for an entire game.

Did Brock Wright play at all?

 

[Irishize]

In Jamie U's re-watch notes he said this was the best the TE position has blocked in awhile. I'd agree, not sure the last time they blocked that well for an entire game.

He said Tremble > Wright when it comes to blocking in that alignment. Brock whiffed on quite a few in the first two games IIRC. He may be better suited as an in-line blocker

 

[Irishize]

You can really see the difference in talent between Notre Dame and Virginia on the lines. Virginia has good athletes at skill positions and DB. But they are not in the same league in the trenches as a top 10 team.


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I’d take both of UVA’s CBs every day of the week & twice on Saturday. Those cats get after it. Hall, the All-American, was a 2-star recruit. They better watch it though b/c w/ all the film on them being aggressive, they’re going to get smoked on a double move.

 

[irishtrooper]

Agreed, if anything the Badger Beatdown was what they needed....

Everybody’s acting like beating Rutgers changes anything. I’m not convinced they’ve solved anything until they play well against an actual team. They’ve looked pretty terrible against a pretty good Wisconsin team (good but not OSU in my view) and Army (who isn’t yet as good as they looked last year). I’m just as confident as I was previously. Although I do think ND won’t blow them out completely, I do think (injuries notwithstanding) we’ll handle them and it’ll be very obvious who is superior.

 

[T-Boone]

I think our OL is getting sneaky good. They've had some unique challenges so far and I think that's going to really help them vs. USC and Michigan.

Yes, I saw Robert Hainsey made the PFF team of the week.

 

[Irish#1]

You can really see the difference in talent between Notre Dame and Virginia on the lines. Virginia has good athletes at skill positions and DB. But they are not in the same league in the trenches as a top 10 team.


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Yeah we were just above the visitors tunnel and I was surprised to see the size of their Oline

 

[drayer54]

You can really see the difference in talent between Notre Dame and Virginia on the lines. Virginia has good athletes at skill positions and DB. But they are not in the same league in the trenches as a top 10 team.


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I always watch the trenches and I felt bad for their right tackle. That poor guy couldn’t block anyone. The rushing yards were telling on that.

 

[stlnd01]

I think Tremble's going to do a lot of good things in his time at Notre Dame.

 

[T-Boone]

I was worried Shane Simon wasn't getting any time. Finally got to see the game and he played one series and looked good, as good as Bilal who has been fine. LBs and the DTs look...good.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Michigan is certainly capable of beating ND but according to Sagarin, they've beaten #75 Army, #122 Middle Tennessee State, #134 Rutgers and lost to #10 Wisconsin in a beat down.

To contrast that: New Mexico is #127, Louisville #71, Virginia #38 and Georgia #8

Notre Dame #11
Michigan #17

Numbers aren't everything but in our biggest test we fell just short on the road and Michigan got bulldozed. And our competition has been stronger and we've continued to win.

 

[IrishLax]

Michigan is certainly capable of beating ND but according to Sagarin, they've beaten #75 Army, #122 Middle Tennessee State, #134 Rutgers and lost to #10 Wisconsin in a beat down.

To contrast that: New Mexico is #127, Louisville #71, Virginia #38 and Georgia #8

Notre Dame #11
Michigan #17

Numbers aren't everything but in our biggest test we fell just short on the road and Michigan got bulldozed. And our competition has been stronger and we've continued to win.

I think we have 3 games left that are easily losable - USC, Michigan, Duke. As we saw with UNC vs Clemson and so many other games, you can really lose (or almost lose) to anyone. But those three games all pose unique challenges...
-USC has immense talent at WR and beat a quality Utah team. They also have the athletes on defense to take risks and possibly get lucky. Their quarterback situation is hot and cold... they will likely have Slovis back from concussion for our game against them. And anything can happen in a rivalry game.
-Michigan should be MUCH better on offense than they are, and it's possible that they continue to progress as the year goes on. Their defense is good enough to thwart our offense the way they're currently playing.
-Duke is sneaky good, and we play them on the road after their bye week. They will likely be ranked in that game, and are extremely well coached with an offense that is starting to click after misfiring in week 1 against Bama.

Frankly, ND should not lose any of the other games unless they totally melt down. Bowling Green we are a 6 TD favorite, Virginia Tech is imploding, Navy is Navy, BC often plays us tough but has looked especially mediocre this year, and Stanford is on their way to a 5 or 6 loss season. It's crazy to see how this schedule... that absolutely looked like murder's row a few years back when it was first announced... has morphed into something very manageable.

 

[stlnd01]

I think we have 3 games left that are easily losable - USC, Michigan, Duke. As we saw with UNC vs Clemson and so many other games, you can really lose (or almost lose) to anyone. But those three games all pose unique challenges...
-USC has immense talent at WR and beat a quality Utah team. They also have the athletes on defense to take risks and possibly get lucky. Their quarterback situation is hot and cold... they will likely have Slovis back from concussion for our game against them. And anything can happen in a rivalry game.
-Michigan should be MUCH better on offense than they are, and it's possible that they continue to progress as the year goes on. Their defense is good enough to thwart our offense the way they're currently playing.
-Duke is sneaky good, and we play them on the road after their bye week. They will likely be ranked in that game, and are extremely well coached with an offense that is starting to click after misfiring in week 1 against Bama.

Frankly, ND should not lose any of the other games unless they totally melt down. Bowling Green we are a 6 TD favorite, Virginia Tech is imploding, Navy is Navy, BC often plays us tough but has looked especially mediocre this year, and Stanford is on their way to a 5 or 6 loss season. It's crazy to see how this schedule... that absolutely looked like murder's row a few years back when it was first announced... has morphed into something very manageable.

You are right, we certainly could lose any of those three games and we shouldn't underestimate them (or even Stanford). OTOH, we could also, quite easily, have the softest 11-1 season in program history, with our best win coming against an 8-4-ish Virginia or Michigan that's ranked ~20th.
College football is weird and unpredictable.