2016 Presidential Horse Race

2016 Presidential Horse Race


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connor_in

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Hillary Just Admitted Her E-mails Are A 'National Security Issue'


Also, how do you think that he was not trolling/being sarcastic? He ended his comments on that with “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Do you really think he believes the press would reward the hackers?

Also, how could it possibly be treason when HRC herself said it was all grandma and yoga stuff? You think she wasn't being honest about that?

Plus Russia is our friend not our enemy President Obama and Sec State HRC reset the relationship. Who are you guys, Mitt Romney?
 
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Taking pot shots at gubmint unable to find what the Russians took from the person who refused to turn them over. What a glorious cluster fvck. Ignore The Donald for a minute and bask in the lying, deceit and self dealing of this champion for the Left who HAS ALREADY done great harm to our country to the point her party's constituency was seriously considering a SOCIALIST to the point the elites had to scheme against their sheeple.

It all keeps her neglect and defiance of being held accountable front and center - but please, let's accuse Trump of being a Pinko Commie now. HAHAHA
 

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Wasn't being sarcastic. And it certainly wasn't funny. And he's not in a lockerroom.

This crooked moron rips our allies and praises dictators. Reagan never was friends with Gorbachev - he told him where he could stick it constantly, and then got the job done. Words matter, our standing in the world matters, and the people of this country might be putting into office a complete moron who is such an egomaniac that he threw a press conference just to let the world know that Biden and Sanders lied about him.

How people, especially conservatives, continue to defend that idiot is beyond me. Do some research people.

Relax you are going to give yourself a heart attack.
 

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Yeah share them with the FBI so they can shove them under a rug! Hijacking their convention coverage - what a thing of beauty.
 

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Taking pot shots at gubmint unable to find what the Russians took from the person who refused to turn them over. What a glorious cluster fvck. Ignore The Donald for a minute and bask in the lying, deceit and self dealing of this champion for the Left who HAS ALREADY done great harm to our country to the point her party's constituency was seriously considering a SOCIALIST to the point the elites had to scheme against their sheeple.

It all keeps her neglect and defiance of being held accountable front and center - but please, let's accuse Trump of being a Pinko Commie now. HAHAHA

Not only a socialist, a socialist with a new worth of just under $2M and annual income in excess of $200K.
 

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Not only a socialist, a socialist with a new worth of just under $2M and annual income in excess of $200K.

He didn't get rich until he moved to DC though. And that is poor by DC standards - can you imagine how they look at the other 96% of the country!
 

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Hillary Just Admitted Her E-mails Are A 'National Security Issue'


Also, how do you think that he was not trolling/being sarcastic? He ended his comments on that with “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Do you really think he believes the press would reward the hackers?

Also, how could it possibly be treason when HRC herself said it was all grandma and yoga stuff? You think she wasn't being honest about that?

Plus Russia is our friend not our enemy President Obama and Sec State HRC reset the relationship. Who are you guys, Mitt Romney?

This is getting fun...I still think the Bridge troll and pocahontas would have made for far more entertainment in their respective VP slots, but I guess all you can do is enjoy what ya got while ya got it.

This will suffice til football season...LMAO. The best part is, these people involved in the campaigns take themselves seriously, the press takes themselves seriously...its like watching a five year old lie, and think he is believable....someone needs to remind these folks.....NO MAN, I'm laughing AT you.
 

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What's your point?

Bernie was running to try and fight back against this bullshit. The fact that HRC did this with DSW only makes HRC look bad (worse). Which is kind of the point...changing the platform and then holding HRC to the fire when (not if) she undoubtedly doesn't follow through with it. The Dem party is a shit show but the media is refusing to make a big deal about it. It's easier to pick on Trump. I hate Mike Pence, but he had the quote of the day, imo:

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You're not running a USFL locker room (another thing that Donald touched and completely ruined)

You're giving Donald too much credit. While he was involved with the USFL, it was doomed the minute it was an idea. It was never going to fly just like the WFL. To try and compete head to head against the NFL and CFB is about as bad of an idea as having HRC or DT president.
 

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You're giving Donald too much credit. While he was involved with the USFL, it was doomed the minute it was an idea. It was never going to fly just like the WFL. To try and compete head to head against the NFL and CFB is about as bad of an idea as having HRC or DT president.

He was such a dick in that 30 for 30..... shocking I know.
 

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Hillary Just Admitted Her E-mails Are A 'National Security Issue'


Also, how do you think that he was not trolling/being sarcastic? He ended his comments on that with “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Do you really think he believes the press would reward the hackers?

Also, how could it possibly be treason when HRC herself said it was all grandma and yoga stuff? You think she wasn't being honest about that?

Plus Russia is our friend not our enemy President Obama and Sec State HRC reset the relationship. Who are you guys, Mitt Romney?

First things first: I do think that certain news organizations would pay lots of money for it. Do you really believe that Fox News wouldn't? There are plenty of far right "news" organizations that would love to pay for it.

Also they just wouldn't get those 30K missing they would get all of her emails, so we know that there was some that were classified and some that became classified after the fact, but those would most likely be in there as well, so yes it could be a national security issue (though it seems like the Government makes everything classified including stuff about yoga and grandmas).
 

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What's your point?

Bernie was running to try and fight back against this bullshit. The fact that HRC did this with DSW only makes HRC look bad (worse). Which is kind of the point...changing the platform and then holding HRC to the fire when (not if) she undoubtedly doesn't follow through with it. The Dem party is a shit show but the media is refusing to make a big deal about it. It's easier to pick on Trump. I hate Mike Pence, but he had the quote of the day, imo:

CoYjMEcUkAAN6tZ.jpg:large

My point is that Bernie isn't affecting the platform much, in the way of REAL progress, so that's no excuse for him to be backing Hillary so resolutely. So if he doesn't have to do it to defeat Trump, and he isn't getting any real reform out of the platform......... then why IS he doing it?
 

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You're giving Donald too much credit. While he was involved with the USFL, it was doomed the minute it was an idea. It was never going to fly just like the WFL. To try and compete head to head against the NFL and CFB is about as bad of an idea as having HRC or DT president.

That certainly may be true, but if you look into it, you'll see that Trump greatly helped accelerate the decline with his buffoonery. He's good at real estate, but when he gets out of his lane, he's often times a complete mess.
 

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Relax you are going to give yourself a heart attack.

I see you're reading from the IE Trump-bot manifesto.

I'm completely relaxed. It can't come across on the Internet obviously. I'm passionate about wanting to keep that idiot out of office (he's already ruined the Republican party for me - or expedited their demise), but when I'm typing I'm fully relaxed.

Look, I am not a Hillary fan. AT ALL. But holy crap man, this dude is just a nightmare. Forget being a baby (his twitter feed this week shows a child screaming for attention - cool for a reality star but the president?)...he just doesn't understand that words matter. He gets diarrhea of the mouth and just can't stop. While Republicans have (rightly many times) picked apart every single little word Obama says, they pardon every stupid thing their own moron says.

Both parties are completely FOS.
 

MJ12666

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I see you're reading from the IE Trump-bot manifesto.

I'm completely relaxed. It can't come across on the Internet obviously. I'm passionate about wanting to keep that idiot out of office (he's already ruined the Republican party for me - or expedited their demise), but when I'm typing I'm fully relaxed.

Look, I am not a Hillary fan. AT ALL. But holy crap man, this dude is just a nightmare. Forget being a baby (his twitter feed this week shows a child screaming for attention - cool for a reality star but the president?)...he just doesn't understand that words matter. He gets diarrhea of the mouth and just can't stop. While Republicans have (rightly many times) picked apart every single little word Obama says, they pardon every stupid thing their own moron says.

Both parties are completely FOS.

Actually I need to apologize. The first time I heard him speak about Russia and the e-mails it was on the radio and it was just a snippet and it really sounded like he was joking. I decided to listen to the entire speech which is posted on You Tube. You were correct, he was not joking. But the radio snippet also cut out a significant part of his answer to the question. Trump begins by saying "it is probably not Russia" who hacked the DNC. "It could be Russia, China nobody knows" who hacked the DNC. "If they have them they should be released". "If Russia, China, or anyone else has these e-mails I would love to see them". "What gives me pause is that a person in our government would delete 30,000 e-mails after she gets a subpoena. That gives me a problem". Not sure I got it 100% correct but this is pretty close to what he said. I see nothing wrong with this. Actually listening to the entire speech I thought he is getting much better. He was not going off on tangents and most of his answers were much shorter and more precises than in prior news conferences that I have heard him give.
 

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I see you're reading from the IE Trump-bot manifesto.

I'm completely relaxed. It can't come across on the Internet obviously. I'm passionate about wanting to keep that idiot out of office (he's already ruined the Republican party for me - or expedited their demise), but when I'm typing I'm fully relaxed.

Look, I am not a Hillary fan. AT ALL. But holy crap man, this dude is just a nightmare. Forget being a baby (his twitter feed this week shows a child screaming for attention - cool for a reality star but the president?)...he just doesn't understand that words matter. He gets diarrhea of the mouth and just can't stop. While Republicans have (rightly many times) picked apart every single little word Obama says, they pardon every stupid thing their own moron says.

Both parties are completely FOS.

I would guess it's because the last two days of the convention have gone well (apart from Wikileaks), and he wants to throw some ugliness back out there for the media.

He's going to keep hammering away with the emails. I would guess most people are more concerned that Russians may have Hillary's deleted emails than they are about Trump 50/50 sarcastically saying Russians should track them down and give them to the media.
 

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I didn't see it as sarcasm, as much as taking a shot at the DNC and Hillary all in one go. Also there is no doubt that he would love for Russia to find and publish those emails, so there was truth underlying it.


The only thing his campaign has been "brilliant" about is showing how stupid the American people are, he gives very little details, belittles everyone who he runs against, or disagrees with him, and generally acts like a bully. He is proof that the U.S. could give a shit about well laid out ideas and governance. It is the reality show of U.S. elections (helped by Clinton and her scandals), and shows that we are screwed as a country. Next election we can just turn it into American Idol/Real World/Survivor.

....and he's made it this far. Pretty brilliant.
 

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While Bill is certainly a cheater, this is a stupid meme.

Does anybody here really think he banged Sheryl Crow, Kelly Clarkson and Demi Lovato? If so, then good for him.

Just the same hee-haw humor we get from the right. They just grabbed any picture they could find of Bill next to a pretty woman. Lazy humor.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Basically this election boils down to Lena Dunham vs Milo Yiannopoulos.</p>— Rod Dreher (@roddreher) <a href="https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/758364977379938304">July 27, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Maybe we can just skip the election and have it decided by trial by combat between those two.
 

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The NYT's Ross Douthat just published an article titled "Tim Kaine's Disappearing Catholic Politics":

When Tim Kaine accepts his party’s nomination for vice president tonight, I expect him to talk about his Catholic faith, his Jesuit education, the role that religion has played in inspiring him to a life of public service.

I don’t expect him to acknowledge how the demands of party loyalty have erased any Catholic distinctiveness in his politics, any evidence that faith should trump partisanship when the two actively conflict.

The erosion of Catholic distinctiveness is a long-running story in American politics. The church’s social doctrine stresses both economic solidarity and social conservatism, calling Catholic politicians to either a pro-life, pro-family liberalism or to a one-nation conservatism, neither racist nor Ayn Randian.

But as our politics have polarized — with a similar polarization in post-Vatican II Catholicism, of course — these combinations have become intensely difficult to maintain. Its last moment in the sun was arguably the George W. Bush era, when “compassionate conservatism” tried to draw on Catholic ideas about fighting poverty, and Democrats responded to their 2004 defeat by increasing religious outreach and recruiting more socially conservative candidates.

Tim Kaine was one of those candidates. Running for governor of Virginia in 2006, he offered a version of Mario Cuomo’s “personally opposed, but …” maneuver on abortion. But he also played up his support for a partial-birth abortion ban, parental notification laws and “informed consent” provisions designed to persuade women to carry pregnancies to term.

This earned him the enduring suspicion of abortion-rights activists. But after ascending to the Senate in 2010 he never did anything to justify that suspicion: While describing himself as personally pro-life, he compiled a lock-step, 100 percent NARAL-rated voting record.

Meanwhile his party moved in a more pro-abortion direction, dropping its Bill Clinton-era rhetoric about making the procedure “rare” and amending its platform to call for the repeal of the Hyde Amendment, which bars public funding for abortion.

And now Kaine has moved with them. Less than a month ago he described himself as “traditionally a supporter of the Hyde Amendment,” but since joining Hillary Clinton’s ticket he’s reportedly reversed that position, sweeping away the last trace of actual pro-life policy from his repertoire of views.

What remains isn’t a distinctively Catholic liberalism, or a “Pope Francis Catholicism,” as some credulous observers have suggested. It’s just a liberalism that likes its usual agenda read in the light that comes in through stained glass.

Of course Kaine’s surrender to party orthodoxy isn’t the only Catholic surrender happening this year. On the Republican side, prominent Catholic politicians like Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio spent several years trying to walk their party’s rhetoric back from its un-Catholic, “makers vs. takers”/“47 percent” turn, and making limited but promising attempts to bring economic solidarity back into the G.O.P. policy agenda.

And then came Donald Trump, inviting Republicans to embrace a more authoritarian form of solidarity, unmoored from any real social conservatism and united by white-identity politics rather than a vision of the common good. Which to their credit, both Ryan and Rubio resisted … but only up to a point, because in the end partisanship trumped Catholic principle. (Mormon principle, it’s worth noting, seems to be made of sterner stuff.)

So this is the “Catholic” politics we have in the America of 2016: Catholic liberals who endorse unlimited abortion, and Catholic conservatives who endorse an authoritarian buffoon.

Jesus wept.
 

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I see you're reading from the IE Trump-bot manifesto.

I'm completely relaxed. It can't come across on the Internet obviously. I'm passionate about wanting to keep that idiot out of office (he's already ruined the Republican party for me - or expedited their demise), but when I'm typing I'm fully relaxed.

Look, I am not a Hillary fan. AT ALL. But holy crap man, this dude is just a nightmare. Forget being a baby (his twitter feed this week shows a child screaming for attention - cool for a reality star but the president?)...he just doesn't understand that words matter. He gets diarrhea of the mouth and just can't stop. While Republicans have (rightly many times) picked apart every single little word Obama says, they pardon every stupid thing their own moron says.

Both parties are completely FOS.

I think a lot of what he puts on Twitter should be embarrassing for any adult and most adolescents! I don't know if it is unfiltered or designed to look unfiltered but a significant segment of the population seems to give a lot of latitude for someone who isn't measuring every freaking word coming out of their mouth (or tweets). Scripted "dialogue" is pretty heavily discounted by the unwashed masses as insincere garbage - regardless of how well scripted it is.
 

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While Bill is certainly a cheater, this is a stupid meme.

Does anybody here really think he banged Sheryl Crow, Kelly Clarkson and Demi Lovato? If so, then good for him.

Just the same hee-haw humor we get from the right. They just grabbed any picture they could find of Bill next to a pretty woman. Lazy humor.

I'm embarrassed that you recognize those people in the photos - maybe I should read more People magazine.
 

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