2016 NFL Draft

[ACamp1900]

I agree if they take Lynch at 8. Now if they trade back once or twice more, getting more picks and then grab a QB in the late teens or early 20's that wouldn't be so bad.

I suppose, but at some point you have to get some elite, top of the draft, talent and hit on it... but yeah.

 

[ACamp1900]

If the Browns go tackle at 8 I'd be super intrigued with the possibility of a guy like Nkemdiche at 32. Something like that would be a great first round for us imo...

taking a QB at 8 now when you know you'll have AT LEAST one high pick next year, or trading down and taking essentially a flyer with a first round pick later... not so much.

This draft should be about getting as many safe picks that can contribute as possible. ANOTHER project QB would not be that...

 

[irishfan]

I've been hearing more and more about some teams liking Stanley more than Tunsil. I may owe Sharpley an apology. I'm still very hesitant though, because it's liars season.

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Same. I guess quietly there are character concerns with Tunsil as he's been connected to some Ole Miss controversies but never seems to actually end up getting in trouble in the end. Also, Stanley has way more pass protection experience.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Same. I guess quietly there are character concerns with Tunsil as he's been connected to some Ole Miss controversies but never seems to actually end up getting in trouble in the end. Also, Stanley has way more pass protection experience.

I just want Stanley on da Bears. Make it happen, Pace!

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[ndfi78]

Same. I guess quietly there are character concerns with Tunsil as he's been connected to some Ole Miss controversies but never seems to actually end up getting in trouble in the end. Also, Stanley has way more pass protection experience.

You mean besides the 7 games he was suspended?

 

[IrishLion]

I suppose, but at some point you have to get some elite, top of the draft, talent and hit on it... but yeah.

You've got Hue on the case, though.

That guy worked wonders for Andy Dalton. Paxton Lynch might very well be a larger version of Dalton. So, if the Browns trade back and can grab Lynch late in the first, that might be the best move, because that means they also added additional value picks to build on.

Playoff jokes aside, the Bengals struck gold with the Green/Dalton combo.

 

[arrowryan]

Kind of hoping/expecting Pittsburgh to take Karl Joseph at #25

 

[ACamp1900]

You've got Hue on the case, though.

That guy worked wonders for Andy Dalton. Paxton Lynch might very well be a larger version of Dalton. So, if the Browns trade back and can grab Lynch late in the first, that might be the best move, because that means they also added additional value picks to build on.

Playoff jokes aside, the Bengals struck gold with the Green/Dalton combo.

I'm still willing to see what he can do with RG3 though... we honestly don't even know if the Browns need a potential franchise QB in this draft... we KNOW they need other positions for sure. If the season plays out and RG3 is not the guy, then you have two first rounders next year, with a good possibility BOTH will be high, to get your franchise guy....

That's my thoughts anyway... so of course the Browns will draft Lynch at 8... the season will be a disaster, they'll get the #1 overall and draft Watson or whoever next year, essentially completely wasting another first round pick that could have and should have been used on other areas of need... I know it's the Browns fan in me, but that's what I pretty much expect... I really hope this new regime proves me wrong and re-establishes a little faith that they at least aren't going to follow the exact same game plan that essentially got everyone before them fired.

 

[Luckylucci]

Kind of hoping/expecting Pittsburgh to take Karl Joseph at #25

He's been a hot name recently. Sounds like that'd be a great pickup if he's there.

 

[Luckylucci]

Only a few days away and I still haven't came to a definitive conclusion on who I want the Cowboys to pick if they stay at 4. My first thought continues to be trade back, if they can. However, that seems less likely now.

 

[irishfan]

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0 clue how accurate this guy is, but FWIW:

1st Round
--Stanley (6th-Ravens)
2nd Round
--Fuller (32nd-Browns)
--Smith (62nd-Panthers)
3rd Round
--Prosise (70th-Ravens)
--Martin (79th-Eagles)
5th Round
--Day (140-Titans)
6th Round
--Okwara (192-Bills)
--Russell (206-Bears)

 

[arrowryan]

He's been a hot name recently. Sounds like that'd be a great pickup if he's there.

I like William Jackson and Vernon Hargreaves but I think they'll be off the board already. I also considered DT Andrew Billings out of Baylor. But I think they go Karl Joseph in round 1 and I like DT Javon Hargrave out of South Carolina St in the 2nd.

 

[ACamp1900]

UGH:

Lynch
Fuller (I like Fuller, but for the Browns I'd pass on him at 32 personally)
Bullard eh, better than the other picks imo
Braxton freakin Miller (You're kidding right??)
Some D2 O Linemen
Another DE
Two other linemen I've never heard of and another DE.....


That list of Browns picks is truly disappointing to me... so, it's probably pretty accurate.

 

[NDdomer2]

Only a few days away and I still haven't came to a definitive conclusion on who I want the Cowboys to pick if they stay at 4. My first thought continues to be trade back, if they can. However, that seems less likely now.

Boss is a big 'boys fan. I tell him that they need to trade out as well but with their lack of DE depth and two pass rushers missing games to start the year as well. Bosa looks to be the pick.

 

[arrowryan]

Only a few days away and I still haven't came to a definitive conclusion on who I want the Cowboys to pick if they stay at 4. My first thought continues to be trade back, if they can. However, that seems less likely now.

I think they'd be stupid if they don't go with Bosa. They might be able to even choose between Bosa and Ramsey if Sand Diego goes with an OT

 

[ACamp1900]

I'm really starting to get that age old "Browns gonna screw it all up" draft anxiety... I'm really just hoping for any logical pick other than Paxton Lynch... anyone....

 

[Luckylucci]

Yea, Bosa seems like the smart choice. However, every time I think about drafting Bosa at 4, I'd much rather draft Lawson at 10-20 or Dodd in the 20-30 for example, plus extra pick/picks.

Also, Elliot has become a hot name around the Cowboys sites. Seems that they might view him as the surest thing of the bunch.

 

[ACamp1900]

I'm with the Lawson or Buckner later line of thinking... too many rumors about Bosa's partying and entitlement for my tastes... or maybe I just hate buckeyes.

 

[woolybug25]

That list of Browns picks is truly disappointing to me... so, it's probably pretty accurate.

Thought the same with the Bears. A ton of guys I've never heard of, don't like or at a position I don't want them drafting yet. In other words, probably right on point.

Yea, Bosa seems like the smart choice. However, every time I think about drafting Bosa at 4, I'd much rather draft Lawson at 10-20 or Dodd in the 20-30 for example, plus extra pick/picks.

Also, Elliot has become a hot name around the Cowboys sites. Seems that they might view him as the surest thing of the bunch.

I wouldn't draft Bosa there if I were them. I would go Elliott as well.

 

[GATTACA!]

I'm really starting to get that age old "Browns gonna screw it all up" draft anxiety... I'm really just hoping for any logical pick other than Paxton Lynch... anyone....

I think we probably trade down again if we do really want Lynch, doesn't make much sense to take him at 8. I don't hate the move because I like him more than most people apparently, but I would prefer to add some additional assets if we can.

I think if we are staying at 8 and he's available Buckner is the pick.

 

[ACamp1900]

I think we probably trade down again if we do really want Lynch, doesn't make much sense to take him at 8. I don't hate the move because I like him more than most people apparently, but I would prefer to add some additional assets if we can.

I think if we are staying at 8 and he's available Buckner is the pick.

Yeah, I'm pretty low on Lynch, I'll be very surprised if he becomes even a serviceable NFL starter...

 

[arrowryan]

If I am the Cowboys, I go Joey Bosa because elite pass rushers are very hard to come across. Running backs are a dime a dozen and I don't draft a running back in the top 10 unless he is the next AP, and I think the next AP is Fournette

 

[longliveautrydenson]

If I am the Cowboys, I go Joey Bosa because elite pass rushers are very hard to come across. Running backs are a dime a dozen and I don't draft a running back in the top 10 unless he is the next AP, and I think the next AP is Fournette

I don't see Bosa becoming an elite pass rusher in the NFL. I feel like Chris Long is a pretty good comp, as their Combine measurables are pretty similar (Long was much stronger & faster, Bosa is quicker). Chris Long averaged about 8 sacks a year when healthy, and has never made a Pro Bowl. I don't think that kind of production is worthy of a number 3 pick. Better to grab someone that similar to Bosa has a high floor, but that also that has an All Pro ceiling.

 

[Luckylucci]

I don't see Bosa becoming an elite pass rusher in the NFL. I feel like Chris Long is a pretty good comp, as their Combine measurables are pretty similar (Long was much stronger & faster, Bosa is quicker). Chris Long averaged about 8 sacks a year when healthy, and has never made a Pro Bowl. I don't think that kind of production is worthy of a number 3 pick. Better to grab someone that similar to Bosa has a high floor, but that also that has an All Pro ceiling.

Agreed. I think Bosa will be a long tenured NFL player and will have a successful career but I don't see Bosa as the next big time NFl pass rusher.

 

[arrowryan]

Agreed. I think Bosa will be a long tenured NFL player and will have a successful career but I don't see Bosa as the next big time NFl pass rusher.

Then I would go Ramsey and Henry in rounds 1 and 2

 

[Luckylucci]

Then I would go Ramsey and Henry in rounds 1 and 2

Yea, the secondary after this year will be a huge issue with virtually nobody under contract for the 2017 season as of today.

Kind of the way I've been leaning. If Ramsey is there at 4 and then hope Henry is there in the 2nd.

Still hoping that they can entertain a trade back opportunity.

 

[pkt77242]

Yeah, I'm pretty low on Lynch, I'll be very surprised if he becomes even a serviceable NFL starter...

I have some doubts about Lynch as well, though I do think that he is significantly better than Cook, so hopefully the Browns don't take Cook.


As to why I am so down on Cook, look at his completion percentage by year as a starter.
58.7%, 58.1% and then 56.1%. Yikes. Considering he was surrounded by a fair amount of talent (especially on the o-line) I find those numbers to be horrible.

Lets compare to Hackenberg
58.9%, 55.8%, and 53.5%. This is troubling as well, though at least some of the blame has to go onto the coaches and their inability to protect Hackenberg.

Also here is an interesting article that compares the top 5 QBs in this draft.
A closer look at top NFL Draft QB prospects Carson Wentz and Jared Goff

 

[arrowryan]

Yea, the secondary after this year will be a huge issue with virtually nobody under contract for the 2017 season as of today.

Kind of the way I've been leaning. If Ramsey is there at 4 and then hope Henry is there in the 2nd.

Still hoping that they can entertain a trade back opportunity.

To where? Don't want to trade too far back because I have a feeling a lot of the top corners will be going off the board in the mid round

 

[longliveautrydenson]

Yea, the secondary after this year will be a huge issue with virtually nobody under contract for the 2017 season as of today.

Kind of the way I've been leaning. If Ramsey is there at 4 and then hope Henry is there in the 2nd.

Still hoping that they can entertain a trade back opportunity.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them grab a QB in the second and hope no one's made a run on RBs before they pick again in the 3rd. I don't like Hackenburg's game, but I could see a team like the Cowboys talking themselves into him at the top of the second.

 

[Luckylucci]

To where? Don't want to trade too far back because I have a feeling a lot of the top corners will be going off the board in the mid round

At this point, I have no idea who a realistic trading partner would be so more of guesstimate on target range. It probably also has a lot to do with who is still on the board at #4. I'd like to see them trade back in the 10-20 range. In that general range I think Lawson, Hargreaves, Dodd, etc. will still be available. I really like those guys, especially if you could get an extra pick out of it. I'm just not completely sold on Ramsey being that much better than Hargreaves and Bosa being that much better than Lawson or Dodd. So, if I can get another pick, depending on where that would be, it might make some sense to do that.