2015 PRE SEASON CAMP THREAD

Luckylucci · Aug 21, 2015

Anybody notice all the switched up numbers, I watched the 247 first and was like who the heck let Greg Bryant back into practice, lol.

Luckylucci · Aug 21, 2015

Only a couple clips of Avery but I like the way #8 moves. Quick and light on his feet. For a SS seems smooth changing direction and getting his hips around

IrishLion · Aug 21, 2015

Saw on Twitter that the number swap is a tradition from the last day of Fall camp

kmoose · Aug 21, 2015

woolybug25 said:
I wish I had the energy to go back and quote everyone that dogged Adams in his thread. It was widely believed that he was overrated and not even in the same league as Dexter.

But here we are...

Just like Bryant was going to leave Folston in the dust........

Booslum31 · Aug 21, 2015

jared.arndt said:
RE: Pitt game; after being very respectful throughout the whole game with a few sarcastic taunts to a group of dbags a few rows behind me, I got cussed out of Heinz by a ten year old and his father. I'm very lucky my buddy was just strong enough to pull me down the stairs into the concourse after starting a couple stairs up to speak my mind to afforementioned dbags, or I could have ended up in a world of hurt and/or trouble that night.

Almost got thrown out the last two times I was there...ofcourse I was wearing my leprechaun gear. Going again this year...might put the gear in my car before going into the stadium. They don't have much of a sense of humor.

Veritate Duce Progredi · Aug 25, 2015

Thursday is our last day of practice viewing before...hell week. The week in which coverage is almost nill and we all experience GI discomfort while we anxiously wait to see how this team will perform.

10:1 odds we call an unnecessary timeout? Or is that behind us?

wizards8507 · Aug 25, 2015

Veritate Duce Progredi said:
10:1 odds we call an unnecessary timeout? Or is that behind us?

That's part of our opening script.

1. Elect to receive kickoff for God knows what reason.
2. Return opening kick to the 17 yard line.
3. Call timeout.
4. Delay of game.
5. Pass complete to Amir Carlisle for two yards.
6. Jet sweep to C.J. Prosise for no gain.
7. False start.
8. Draw to Cam McDaniel for five yards.
9. Punt.

But yeah, hopefully that's behind us. Third and long? Not long enough.

dublinirish · Aug 25, 2015

did ND have 12 men in the huddle on the opening offensive play of the season one year? I have vague memories of Troy Niklas screwing up somehow lol

EvilleIrish · Aug 25, 2015

dublinirish said:
did ND have 12 men in the huddle on the opening offensive play of the season one year? I have vague memories of Troy Niklas screwing up somehow lol

Yes. 2013 opener against Temple. I wouldn't have believed a team could actually pull it off if I hadn't been there to see it with my own eyes. 12 men on the field on the FIRST PLAY OF THE SEASON.

wizards8507 · Aug 25, 2015

EvilleIrish said:
Yes. 2013 opener against Temple. I wouldn't have believed a team could actually pull it off if I hadn't been there to see it with my own eyes. 12 men on the field on the FIRST PLAY OF THE SEASON.

We've committed delay of game coming out of timeouts and/or halftime on multiple occasions. Under both Everett and Tommy.

EvilleIrish · Aug 25, 2015

wizards8507 said:
We've committed delay of game coming out of timeouts and/or halftime on multiple occasions. Under both Everett and Tommy.

Absolutely. It's easy to forget the start at Michigan State during the 2012 season. I defend Kelly on a lot of things, but those types of things are tough to.

wizards8507 · Aug 25, 2015

EvilleIrish said:
Absolutely. It's easy to forget the start at Michigan State during the 2012 season. I defend Kelly on a lot of things, but those types of things are tough to.

Hopefully the quarterback situation will help. I can't imagine Malik ever getting that deer-in-the-headlights look. I'm sure he'll make plenty of mistakes but I don't think we'll see him ever freeze and do NOTHING.

dublinirish · Aug 25, 2015

EvilleIrish said:
Yes. 2013 opener against Temple. I wouldn't have believed a team could actually pull it off if I hadn't been there to see it with my own eyes. 12 men on the field on the FIRST PLAY OF THE SEASON.

Reps for clarification. Dear god that was cringeworthy :/

EvilleIrish · Aug 25, 2015

dublinirish said:
Reps for clarification. Dear god that was cringeworthy :/

I wouldn't have expected that out of a high school team.

IrishLion · Aug 25, 2015

wizards8507 said:
Hopefully the quarterback situation will help. I can't imagine Malik ever getting that deer-in-the-headlights look. I'm sure he'll make plenty of mistakes but I don't think we'll see him ever freeze and do NOTHING.

Malik strikes me as the type of guy that will go rogue and call a fake audible at the line, and then just tuck and run on a draw, rather than taking a delay of game after a timeout.

Sometimes I think these timeouts are a result of BK simply thinking there is more time left of the timeout than he is aware.

The other team's defense will be lined up and ready to start the game, and BK still has the offense huddled on the sideline like it's still a commercial break/timeout. Then the ref blows the whistle to start the :25 clock, and the offense just kind of leisurely jogs onto the field, takes their time getting lined up, and then the QB tries to change something even though there is still one guy not even in a stance and another guy that is in motion, and another guy is already looking at the sideline because he knows a new play is coming in.

Veritate Duce Progredi · Aug 25, 2015

The MSU game was one of those rare games where we started like that and I was rolling my eyes....**here we go again**... and then everything else worked according to plan.

Irish Insanity · Aug 25, 2015

wizards8507 said:
That's part of our opening script.

1. Elect to receive kickoff for God knows what reason.
2. Return opening kick to the 17 yard line.
3. Call timeout.
4. Delay of game.
5. Pass complete to Amir Carlisle for two yards.
6. Jet sweep to C.J. Prosise for no gain.
7. False start.
8. Draw to Cam McDaniel for five yards.
9. Punt.

But yeah, hopefully that's behind us. Third and long? Not long enough.

Have some Kool Aid. I'm calling it now, IF we elect to receive the opening kickoff vs Texas, it's going to the house.

Meacon Irish · Aug 25, 2015

Will there be a press conference today? Looking forward to hearing who all won the Captain vote.

koonja · Aug 25, 2015

I'm slightly concerned about the play getting in on time since we essentially have 3 OC's and haven't determined who's calling plays yet.

dublinirish · Aug 25, 2015

IrishLion said:
Malik strikes me as the type of guy that will go rogue and call a fake audible at the line, and then just tuck and run on a draw, rather than taking a delay of game after a timeout.

Sometimes I think these timeouts are a result of BK simply thinking there is more time left of the timeout than he is aware.

The other team's defense will be lined up and ready to start the game, and BK still has the offense huddled on the sideline like it's still a commercial break/timeout. Then the ref blows the whistle to start the :25 clock, and the offense just kind of leisurely jogs onto the field, takes their time getting lined up, and then the QB tries to change something even though there is still one guy not even in a stance and another guy that is in motion, and another guy is already looking at the sideline because he knows a new play is coming in.

it didn't help that BK had to pass the playcall to the redhats and then sometimes even confer with Martin/whoever in between. Just a communication clusterfuck

dublinirish · Aug 25, 2015

koonja said:
I'm slightly concerned about the play getting in on time since we essentially have 3 OC's and haven't determined who's calling plays yet.

but the offense is gonna be faster than NASCAR..

Luckylucci · Aug 25, 2015

koonja said:
I'm slightly concerned about the play getting in on time since we essentially have 3 OC's and haven't determined who's calling plays yet.

I feel fairly confident that we'll have that decision made prior to Texas kickoff, lol. Now, could we still have the delay of game or timeout? Yes, but it won't be because of this.

gkIrish · Aug 25, 2015

Luckylucci said:
I feel fairly confident that we'll have that decision made prior to Texas kickoff, lol. Now, could we still have the delay of game or timeout? Yes, but it won't be because of this.

O/U 3rd drive of the season where we call a timeout to avoid a delay of game

Luckylucci · Aug 25, 2015

gkIrish said:
O/U 3rd drive of the season where we call a timeout to avoid a delay of game

I'll go over. History isn't on my side but I think that Zaire can finally get the "call it and haul it" approach that spread offenses need to have to really play fast.

Irish Insanity · Aug 25, 2015

gkIrish said:
O/U 3rd drive of the season where we call a timeout to avoid a delay of game

Over. I don't think Zaire possesses the bad qualities that Golson had. Golson seemed like an inward type guy, second guessed himself to much, and over thought things. I've never seen any of that from Zaire.

Section20Row27 · Aug 25, 2015

koonja said:
I'm slightly concerned about the play getting in on time since we essentially have 3 OC's and haven't determined who's calling plays yet.

With Sanford upstairs, I am inclined to think he will be calling the plays, Denbrock will be making sure personnel groups/packages are ready, and Kelly managing time and flow.

Now that I said that - it will be the exact opposite...

dublinirish · Aug 25, 2015

Section20Row27 said:
With Sanford upstairs, I am inclined to think he will be calling the plays, Denbrock will be making sure personnel groups/packages are ready, and Kelly managing time and flow.

Now that I said that - it will be the exact opposite...

lol too many cooks and all that

dublinirish · Aug 25, 2015

condoms SUCk · Aug 25, 2015

gkIrish said:
O/U 3rd drive of the season where we call a timeout to avoid a delay of game

It's hard being an ND fan sometimes. I've actually been asked "If ND players are so smart, how come they can't read a play clock?"

This was during the ND/UM game last year when we wasted two TO's on the first drive.
Koon before you ask, this wasn't from Massy (My UM buddy), it was from some randaom UM fan behind me.

I just SMH and shrugged my shoulders.

Bogtrotter07 · Aug 25, 2015

I am just looking forward to the season.

I don't think the past is a very good predictor of this season, because I think Kelly had some "intense coaching in the off-season" to clean up a lot of what has gone wrong.

Kelly's micro management is way down.

Fullest coaching staff ND has ever had, with a whole lot of brain power. I will say that so far I see every staff change over the last two years as an upgrade. (Elston may have been upgraded as a d-line coach, but I will bet my second to last dollar he is a linebacker coach upgrade.)

I guess I am going to sit back this year and enjoy myself. ND Football still qualifies as entertainment, even though I bleed dark navy blue and gold. But constipation and negativism isn't a part of what I call entertainment, life is too short to let it have free reign!

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