'19 OH DT Jowon Briggs (Virginia Verbal)

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You don't "stash" top 100 players with offers from Bama, OSU, and Michigan. I think Loy is off his rocker if he thinks Briggs is gonna get left out.

Bama does.

What Loy is saying is he's hearing that ND is taking 2 more pure DT's on top of Lacey, Spears & one of, in this order, Smith, Johnson & then Briggs.

On top of that add 6-5/295 Josh Harris' offer after they have more leans from the 6-2/6-3 group than it sounds like they want to take and I'd bet they'd bump another of the current (shorter) DT's off the take list.

...and their's always Joseph Anderson, who a lot of people (me included) feel is destined for a Rochell like, swing career at ND.
 

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Bama does.

What Loy is saying is he's hearing that ND is taking 2 more pure DT's on top of Lacey, Spears & one of, in this order, Smith, Johnson & then Briggs.

On top of that add 6-5/295 Josh Harris' offer after they have more leans from the 6-2/6-3 group than it sounds like they want to take and I'd bet they'd bump another of the current (shorter) DT's off the take list.

To expand on this, ISD was saying the other day that we shouldn't be surprised if not all of these DTs are in the class due to the fact that quite a few are "undersized". Specifically Briggs was brought up as being small
 

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Take all of them and start playing a 4 man front:

SDE - DT - DT - SDE

And hopefully one of the SDEs can get occasional pressure. No one will ever run on us. We just need uber athletic LB/S play

Simple right?
 

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Irish Illustrated podcast and Mike Elston in his presser alluded to the fact that they are going to take 7 DLineman (that was said, not alluded to) and they were not going to turn away all the top guys they are in it with. So I would be extremely disappointed if they all of the sudden decided to change that and not take a top 100 player and top 5 DT

.9668 DT Jowon Briggs
.9484 DT Mazi Smith
.9384 DT Jacob Lacey
.9315 DE Joseph Anderson
.9261 DT Rodas Johnson
.9145 DT Hunter Spears

Take all 6 and find one of the 5 DT's to be a SDE with Joseph Anderson and then spend the rest of the year going after WDE's. I also think that of those 6 above, one of them could be blown away on a visit to a different school and we could quickly go from the drivers seat to second fiddle. So take, take, take, and take some more.

None of those DT's are swinging out and I'd put the chance of Johnson AND Briggs getting out of Ohio at 5%.

All these CB's to ND mean the analysts believe the Irish currently lead for each. But that's gonna change as the DT commit count rises for ND. Rodas Johnson hasn't been offered by hometown OSU yet. Is he gonna say no to Urban when he gets around to offering and ND has 3 DT's and Anderson already committed? Are any of them gonna say no to OSU/UM/MSU/PSU when ND has 4 committed and they could go into a heavy as the #1 DT in the class?

I think the offer to Joshua Harris alone says ND isn't satisfied with it's current inventory of leads.

Time will tell but I get Loy's thinking here cuz it's what I've been saying for a while.
 

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None of those DT's are swinging out and I'd put the chance of Johnson AND Briggs getting out of Ohio at 5%.

All these CB's to ND mean the analysts believe the Irish currently lead for each. But that's gonna change as the DT commit count rises for ND. Rodas Johnson hasn't been offered by hometown OSU yet. Is he gonna say no to Urban when he gets around to offering and ND has 3 DT's and Anderson already committed? Are any of them gonna say no to OSU/UM/MSU/PSU when ND has 4 committed and they could go into a heavy as the #1 DT in the class?

I think the offer to Joshua Harris alone says ND isn't satisfied with it's current inventory of leads.

Time will tell but I get Loy's thinking here cuz it's what I've been saying for a while.
Yes, I totally understand that process. I have thought and think currently that there is no way in hell that all 5 of the DT's we lead for right now end up at ND, but I'm just of the thinking that if you get Mazi Smith, Jacob Lacey, and Hunter Spears on board, and Briggs really wants in after all that then don't tell him you're waiting on Rodas Johnson to decide first. Ideally you can get one of those Ohio DT's in the fold before Urbie comes back to his own state for recruiting because when he does come back later in the cycle, he'll he hard as hell to fight for that prospect. Also its on the staff to figure out which of the two ohio DT's would be more likely to flip if Urbie came after them and maybe take the more likely to stay in the class if the talent level is close. Its a good problem to have all of these DT's interested in ND. Last year, Alabama might have led for a dozen 4-5* receivers during the cycle and ended up with 2 really good ones. Long story short, doesn't matter to me who of the 5 big time DT's we take, just as long as we take a couple and end up with a good class which seems likely at this point.
 

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Been tellin' ya'll, ND's gonna have to say no to some really good DT's this cycle.

What a great problem to finally have.
 

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3/12/18 CB to ND by Ryan Donnelly LandOf10 Ohio State recruiting analyst
 

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Four-star Jowon Briggs focused on being a true student-athlete

Jowon Briggs has been raised to be more than just a football player, but the four-star defensive tackle certainly is an extremely talented football player.

It's become a very "in" thing for high school football recruits to talk about how important their education is to them, and one can only hope that this is a positive trend that will continue to gain in popularity.

Cincinnati Walnut Hills defensive tackle Jowon Briggs has been talking about his academic goals since he was a high school sophomore and first hit the recruiting radar. That is still his message today.

"I do think about college often, but I really don't think about the recruiting stuff all that often," Briggs stated. "I'm just more focused on working, studying, lifting and playing to sports to give that much thought to recruiting. I have a lot of time for that, and the time will come."

"I want to study some type of math or computer programming in college, and right now I'm taking a lot of AP classes to prepare me for that," he added. "I'm taking AP calculus, AP computer science and AP engineering, and that keeps me busy. That's what I like the most."

Briggs is the son of college educated parents, and he credits them for instilling the value and importance of education in him at any early age.

"It comes from my parents big-time, and they always told me that football isn't forever, but you need to have a plan for life after football," Briggs admitted. "My older sister was an academic wizard, and she's in engineering right now, and she motivates me as well."

Even though the four-star lineman might not be focused heavily on recruiting at this time, he is in contact with college coaches and has taken a few visits, including a recent one to Tennessee.

"I haven't taken too many visits lately, but I was at Tennessee a few weeks ago." Briggs explained. "It was really nice being there, and it seems like they're in the middle of a rebuilding phase. I did speak to Coach (Jeremy) Pruitt, and I know he knows how to win."

"He's bringing a new attitude to Tennessee, and I think he's going to be successful," he said. "I am going to consider them going forward, but I'm considering every school right now. I haven't narrowed down my list at all."

Briggs landed early offers from such schools as Michigan, Notre Dame and Ohio State, and he remains interested in all three programs.

"I don't have any visits scheduled coming up," Briggs noted. "My last visits were mostly for games last fall. I haven't really talked to Michigan in a while, and we were in contact when they offered. I think Coach (Al) Washington is a cool guy, but we haven't talked much at all."

"With Ohio State, I would say that Coach (Larry) Johnson hits me up every other day or so," he said. "I would say we have a relationship, and we text back and forth. With them, they know how to win for sure, and they have that type of culture."

"With Notre Dame, things are goods and that program is real nice," he stressed. "Notre Dame is really nice, and I'm trying to get out there in the near future. I'm trying to gather more information on them."

Since Briggs is not concentrating his focus on recruiting at this time, it does not look like a decision will be coming any time soon.

"I will probably wait until Signing Day, because I just don't see the need to rush things," Briggs exclaimed. "I'm just taking things really slow right now, and it's just one more thing I will have to focus on when the time is right."

Briggs is ranked as the No. 4 defensive tackle in America by the industry-generated 247Sports Composite.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meet Jowon Briggs, no, not the 2019 Top100 DT football recruit. The one that loves and participates in theater, choir and can play over 10 instruments. <br><br>My feature on a young man, who is far more than a just a star on the football field: <a href="https://t.co/SGaXsFKffn">https://t.co/SGaXsFKffn</a> <a href="https://t.co/mX5J6n49MR">pic.twitter.com/mX5J6n49MR</a></p>— Shane Kinnee (@_ShaneKinnee) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ShaneKinnee/status/996407124728205313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Super, super impressive sounding kid. I hope that in January of 2019, Elston needs another DT and gives Jowon Briggs a ring. Cause this kid sounds very intellectually curious and bright.
 

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Super, super impressive sounding kid. I hope that in January of 2019, Elston needs another DT and gives Jowon Briggs a ring. Cause this kid sounds very intellectually curious and bright.

Agreed he's an RKG all day long and I'd love prospects like him in every class... but they got 3 long term IL's committed and are only losing 2 or sure, though movement from MDT or Ewell wouldn't shock anybody. If Briggs made it into this class I'd guess that meant MDT GT'd / took a medical and either Ewell transferred or one of Lacey/Spears/Cross didn't sign. I love Briggs but I'd rather have Ewell's switch flipped and have a 6-3.5/325 block of granite in the middle than another undersized DT on the roster. A backwards as it sounds, I hope there's no room/need for him this cycle.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meet Jowon Briggs, no, not the 2019 Top100 DT football recruit. The one that loves and participates in theater, choir and can play over 10 instruments. <br><br>My feature on a young man, who is far more than a just a star on the football field: <a href="https://t.co/SGaXsFKffn">https://t.co/SGaXsFKffn</a> <a href="https://t.co/mX5J6n49MR">pic.twitter.com/mX5J6n49MR</a></p>— Shane Kinnee (@_ShaneKinnee) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ShaneKinnee/status/996407124728205313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Super, super impressive sounding kid. I hope that in January of 2019, Elston needs another DT and gives Jowon Briggs a ring. Cause this kid sounds very intellectually curious and bright.

Agreed he's an RKG all day long and I'd love prospects like him in every class... but they got 3 long term IL's committed and are only losing 2 or sure, though movement from MDT or Ewell wouldn't shock anybody. If Briggs made it into this class I'd guess that meant MDT GT'd / took a medical and either Ewell transferred or one of Lacey/Spears/Cross didn't sign. I love Briggs but I'd rather have Ewell's switch flipped and have a 6-3.5/325 block of granite in the middle than another undersized DT on the roster. A backwards as it sounds, I hope there's no room/need for him this cycle.

Watch him sign and then drop football to play school. I hate those kind of recruits!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meet Jowon Briggs, no, not the 2019 Top100 DT football recruit. The one that loves and participates in theater, choir and can play over 10 instruments. <br><br>My feature on a young man, who is far more than a just a star on the football field: <a href="https://t.co/SGaXsFKffn">https://t.co/SGaXsFKffn</a> <a href="https://t.co/mX5J6n49MR">pic.twitter.com/mX5J6n49MR</a></p>— Shane Kinnee (@_ShaneKinnee) <a href="https://twitter.com/_ShaneKinnee/status/996407124728205313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Super, super impressive sounding kid. I hope that in January of 2019, Elston needs another DT and gives Jowon Briggs a ring. Cause this kid sounds very intellectually curious and bright.

His high school is a very good one in the Cincy area. Bad neighborhood, but good school.
 

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It's become a daily occurrence on ND boards. ND fans lamenting about taking MOAR DT's
 

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One can never have enough contributing D Linemen.

Not really relevant to this conversation though. We aren't taking about discontinuing DL recruiting period, we are talking about not taking more DT's, because we need more DE's. Creating a 5 deep at NT, when you only have a 2 deep at SDE, is just poor scholarship management.
 
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It's become a daily occurrence on ND boards. ND fans lamenting about taking MOAR DT's

We talked about this a year ago... That ND was gonna be in such a good place with DT's that they'd eventually be saying no to one or two of the DT's they led for then (which at the time was Lacey, Briggs, smith, Johnson & Anderson at the swing DL)

Now if someone would have told me that ND would only get Lacey from that group and I'd still be happy, I'd have laughed in their face.
 

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We talked about this a year ago... That ND was gonna be in such a good place with DT's that they'd eventually be saying no to one or two of the DT's they led for then (which at the time was Lacey, Briggs, smith, Johnson & Anderson at the swing DL)

Now if someone would have told me that ND would only get Lacey from that group and I'd still be happy, I'd have laughed in their face.

I think the question I have is did we not end up with more from that group because A) we like these others significantly more, or B) the ones we ended up with we're on accelerated timelines and bird in hand is worth two in bush
 

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I think the question I have is did we not end up with more from that group because A) we like these others significantly more, or B) the ones we ended up with we're on accelerated timelines and bird in hand is worth two in bush

My answer for myself is it doesn't matter.

I have no idea what the staff's thinking was or feelings are but film for film and resume v. resume, I'll take Lacey, Spears, Cross over Lacey + two of: Smith, Briggs, Johnson.
 

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My answer for myself is it doesn't matter.

I have no idea what the staff's thinking was or feelings are but film for film and resume v. resume, I'll take Lacey, Spears, Cross over Lacey + two of: Smith, Briggs, Johnson.

I certainly don't disagree just would be interesting to know the decision process the coaches have to make in regards to the options noted.
 

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To add, Spears grew into a DT and after getting him on campus a couple of times, he quickly shot to the top of the board. So that's when the Fab 5 conversation started with Nana, Smith, Lacey, Spears, and Anderson. At that point, it sounded like 7 DL was the number. Now it sounds like it might be 6. Also, Anderson became an academic casualty so the staff had to move on. Cross filled his spot, and he's a very adequate option to pencil in. And as the number went from 7 to 6, another DT wasn't in the cards. So we're more than likely going to land 3 of the Fab 5, with one academic casualty and 1 not having a spot.
 

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Bill Greene was on Bucknuts Morning 5 this morning and said that while ND and pOSU are currently the teams with crystal balls, he thinks that a third team will eventually emerge. He thinks that ND will probably be full for DL by the time that Jowon is ready to make a decision and he believes that pOSU is not currently sold on him. pOSU has DT's that are higher on their board, but will continue to recruit him.

Bill Greene also said that Briggs is probably 6'1" but will fight to the death when he is on the field.

Briggs had previously mentioned to Greene that he didn't really have any plans to dive into the recruiting process until his senior year. While he has taken a few visits, he doesn't talk to many coaches etc. Probably won't commit until late fall or could go all the way to signing day.
 

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He thinks that ND will probably be full for DL by the time that Jowon is ready to make a decision

Is he really not a take no matter what? Briggs would be our highest rated recruit.
 

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Is he really not a take no matter what? Briggs would be our highest rated recruit.

I wouldn't say no matter what. I'm sure there are circumstances where he'd be a take down the road. Just not sure those are very likely.
 

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I wouldn't say no matter what. I'm sure there are circumstances where he'd be a take down the road. Just not sure those are very likely.

Think he meant that he's surprised there are ANY circumstances that could see him left out if he wants in.
 

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Wish him the best, seemed like a great kid. Might not have had many options in the end. I could see the recruitment getting interesting if a lot of those schools started get involved again.
 
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