'18 SC QB Sam Hartman (Notre Dame Transfer)

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Just asking? Is it possible that Tbuck may. Just saying. May beat out Sam Hart for the QB1 spot?
 
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Very interested as to how much freedom Hartman is going to have in whatever Parker's system is. Offenses are nowhere near as rigid and absolute as much as they were 20 years ago. Or even ten years ago.

Going forward, do the other guys in the QB room get similar levels of freedom to be creative and make plays as well.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
Very interested as to how much freedom Hartman is going to have in whatever Parker's system is. Offenses are nowhere near as rigid and absolute as much as they were 20 years ago. Or even ten years ago.

Going forward, do the other guys in the QB room get similar levels of freedom to be creative and make plays as well.
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247 had snippets from a bunch of interviews the other day. Either Buchner or Angeli said that one of the biggest differences between Parker and Rees is that Parker simplifies the reads much more.

With Rees it seemed like the correct throw was basically identified pre-snap with all the motion and "check with me" stuff. Not saying that's good or bad just a different, more pro-style approach than the usual RPO reads in college. It seems like Parker will be more towards the latter.
 
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Free Manera said:
247 had snippets from a bunch of interviews the other day. Either Buchner or Angeli said that one of the biggest differences between Parker and Rees is that Parker simplifies the reads much more.

With Rees it seemed like the correct throw was basically identified pre-snap with all the motion and "check with me" stuff. Not saying that's good or bad just a different, more pro-style approach than the usual RPO reads in college. It seems like Parker will be more towards the latter.
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I feel like with Hartman you can trust him to read the defense. With Pyne you better be goddamn sure you did everything you could pre-snap to get him in the right read and then you have to pray he doesn't piss down his leg.
 
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I feel like with Hartman you can trust him to read the defense. With Pyne you better be goddamn sure you did everything you could pre-snap to get him in the right read and then you have to pray he doesn't piss down his leg.
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... or throw it off the back of someone's helmet.

You guys are lucky. I may have to watch him for 8 ASU home games this year. (How did ASU pull that off?)

Good news is I'll see OK St again, UCF w/ Mikey Keene sc, Prime U, Wazzu w/ Cam Ward, Bo Nix & the Ducks and Zona w/ Jayden De Laura here plus Michael Penix in Seattle as we tag along with my best friend for his family reunion. Somehow, I've never been to Seattle, looking forward to it.

IF IF IF he beats out Jacob Conover and last year's starter, Trenton Bourget... he might be the better QB once or twice in games vs Southern Utah, Prime Jr. or OK State with the 3x retread from Michigan.

But most importantly... The SC vs ASU cheerleading showdown will have at least ten 5* prospects per Playboy Sports.
 
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Free Manera said:
247 had snippets from a bunch of interviews the other day. Either Buchner or Angeli said that one of the biggest differences between Parker and Rees is that Parker simplifies the reads much more.

With Rees it seemed like the correct throw was basically identified pre-snap with all the motion and "check with me" stuff. Not saying that's good or bad just a different, more pro-style approach than the usual RPO reads in college. It seems like Parker will be more towards the latter.
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That’s also how Rees was as a player. His weapon was his head not his arm. I remember reading quotes from teammates of his 10 years ago about how they’d never seen a QB who could diagnose a defense like him and then make the right read.
But not every QB needs to play like that of course.
 
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That’s also how Rees was as a player. His weapon was his head not his arm. I remember reading quotes from teammates of his 10 years ago about how they’d never seen a QB who could diagnose a defense like him and then make the right read.
But not every QB needs to play like that of course.
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Yet somehow, he managed to throw the ball directly into the waiting arms of a defender. OR MAYBE... that was the correct read, and Tommy was playing Chess, while we were all playing Checkers.
 
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Free Manera said:
247 had snippets from a bunch of interviews the other day. Either Buchner or Angeli said that one of the biggest differences between Parker and Rees is that Parker simplifies the reads much more.

With Rees it seemed like the correct throw was basically identified pre-snap with all the motion and "check with me" stuff. Not saying that's good or bad just a different, more pro-style approach than the usual RPO reads in college. It seems like Parker will be more towards the latter.
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I think Hartman is going to have a great deal of freedom. He's been there done it at 23 years old.

Buchner, Minchey and Carr's level of freedom in going to be interesting as time goes on. The game and how this position fits into it has really changed significantly even in the last half decade.

It really does come down to having "that guy" like Stroud, Young, Caleb Williams, etc. and letting that guy be an athlete.
 
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Free Manera said:
247 had snippets from a bunch of interviews the other day. Either Buchner or Angeli said that one of the biggest differences between Parker and Rees is that Parker simplifies the reads much more.

With Rees it seemed like the correct throw was basically identified pre-snap with all the motion and "check with me" stuff. Not saying that's good or bad just a different, more pro-style approach than the usual RPO reads in college. It seems like Parker will be more towards the latter.
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Deuce Knight mentioned changes to ND's offense too in his interview with Loy, FWIW. QB Deuce Knight In-Depth on Notre Dame

"One of the main reasons I wanted to get up here is to see how coach Gino coaches and how their offense works. The practice shot down some stuff that I hear about Notre Dame, like that they always huddle, that they are completely pro style and they don’t take shots down field. But it was the total opposite of that. They are no huddle like 70% of the time and play at a fast tempo and they take plenty of shots.”
 
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Irish4life said:
Deuce Knight mentioned changes to ND's offense too in his interview with Loy, FWIW. QB Deuce Knight In-Depth on Notre Dame

"One of the main reasons I wanted to get up here is to see how coach Gino coaches and how their offense works. The practice shot down some stuff that I hear about Notre Dame, like that they always huddle, that they are completely pro style and they don’t take shots down field. But it was the total opposite of that. They are no huddle like 70% of the time and play at a fast tempo and they take plenty of shots.”
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This is not the style to which we have become accustomed.
 
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