'18 PA QB Phil Jurkovec (Wherever I May Roam Chud)

[Free Manera]

Josh Adams & Will Fuller worked out pretty well

Don’t forget McGlinchey.

 

[vinnymac2402]

Kurt Hinish has been solid also.

 

[BobbyMac]

Robert Hainsey is the best WPA kid in a while.

 

[BobbyMac]

So scuttlebutt around the net:

Phil going to BC this week sometime. His girlfriend is an athlete at BU, so is one of his best friends from basketball, Dan Petcash.

BC is back on the schedule in '22 which would be Phil's 5th year.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Sorry kid, we like to start the 3* type with heart.

6’5” 220+ with a rocket arm? Not here mate. Off u go.

I’ll clarify here.. I didn’t expect Kelly to start this kid over Book bc of his HS ratings. My frustration lies in the QB position overall and inability to land and develop the stud QB.

Obviously there are many circumstances involved in every players story..

But long story short, Kelly can hang his QB hat on Kizer & Book. Kizers first year starting gave us all the hope we’ve longed for at the QB position & the next year they went 4-8 with brutal losses to Navy, NC State, Duke, VaTech etc

Then he skipped to the NFL leaving Wimbush who gave us another glimmer of hope with a 10 win season but then inevitably backtracked and lost the job to Book..

Who’s been more than solid at the position.. I don’t want to downplay how close ND has been to a championship over the last few years.. it’s been one hell of a job by Kelly. But it still baffles me that in 10 years at NOTRE DAME we haven’t been able to recruit a game changing QB & get him comfortably on the field ASAP.

We either had 6’0” guys who couldn’t get over the hump or 6’4” busts.

Tommy played admirably but we weren’t going back to the NC with him. Golson, Wimbush, Zaire either stalled or regressed developmentally and Kizer played the best out of them all but the team regressed so hard his second year.

Kiel and Jurkovic seemed to never even be in the running.. I mean the highest ranked QB recruits in Kelly’s history were the furthest ones from the field.

I’m not even asking for a Trevor Lawrence situation bc that is obviously rare.

But out of Pyne and Buchner I’d like to see efficient development and a 2-3 year starter emerge and compete for the playoffs bc they’ll certainly have the talent around them to do so.

Ian Book has been great but in today’s college football you need the dynamic, game changing guy.. especially at ND where we’re clearly at a recruiting disadvantage. Yes, we put together an impressive roster but not to the degree that we can get by with a good not great QB.

Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Joe Borrow and Jalen Hurts were the playoff QBs this year. Can you honestly say Book is in that conversation?

Not that Phil would have been but he’s the pedigree.. All I’m saying is I want to see the staff secure this damn position already with THE guy,

 

[T-Boone]

I had never heard of Joe Burrow before this season.

 

[Circa]

I’ll clarify here.. I didn’t expect Kelly to start this kid over Book bc of his HS ratings. My frustration lies in the QB position overall and inability to land and develop the stud QB.

Obviously there are many circumstances involved in every players story..

But long story short, Kelly can hang his QB hat on Kizer & Book. Kizers first year starting gave us all the hope we’ve longed for at the QB position & the next year they went 4-8 with brutal losses to Navy, NC State, Duke, VaTech etc

Then he skipped to the NFL leaving Wimbush who gave us another glimmer of hope with a 10 win season but then inevitably backtracked and lost the job to Book..

Who’s been more than solid at the position.. I don’t want to downplay how close ND has been to a championship over the last few years.. it’s been one hell of a job by Kelly. But it still baffles me that in 10 years at NOTRE DAME we haven’t been able to recruit a game changing QB & get him comfortably on the field ASAP.

We either had 6’0” guys who couldn’t get over the hump or 6’4” busts.

Tommy played admirably but we weren’t going back to the NC with him. Golson, Wimbush, Zaire either stalled or regressed developmentally and Kizer played the best out of them all but the team regressed so hard his second year.

Kiel and Jurkovic seemed to never even be in the running.. I mean the highest ranked QB recruits in Kelly’s history were the furthest ones from the field.

I’m not even asking for a Trevor Lawrence situation bc that is obviously rare.

But out of Pyne and Buchner I’d like to see efficient development and a 2-3 year starter emerge and compete for the playoffs bc they’ll certainly have the talent around them to do so.

Ian Book has been great but in today’s college football you need the dynamic, game changing guy.. especially at ND where we’re clearly at a recruiting disadvantage. Yes, we put together an impressive roster but not to the degree that we can get by with a good not great QB.

Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Joe Borrow and Jalen Hurts were the playoff QBs this year. Can you honestly say Book is in that conversation?

Not that Phil would have been but he’s the pedigree.. All I’m saying is I want to see the staff secure this damn position already with THE guy,

I can honestly say.
Ian will be in his 3rd year as a starter.
Ian will play and evaluate defenses better in the coming year.
Ian Is a stud that will get overlooked in his 3rd year...
ND has always had QB problems since Beeno Cook claimed 2 Heismans for Powlus... Not Ron's fault but It was a bit much. (RIP Beeno)
We'll never be an underdog,... regardless of Vegas.
Take Fields and Hurts outta the equation. They are good but have some very obvious flaws.
Book needs to understand we are behind him. QB play is 90% confidence 10% ability... at his level of play.
Ask Johnny Football

 

[NDdomer2]

I’ll clarify here.. I didn’t expect Kelly to start this kid over Book bc of his HS ratings. My frustration lies in the QB position overall and inability to land and develop the stud QB.

Obviously there are many circumstances involved in every players story..

But long story short, Kelly can hang his QB hat on Kizer & Book. Kizers first year starting gave us all the hope we’ve longed for at the QB position & the next year they went 4-8 with brutal losses to Navy, NC State, Duke, VaTech etc

Then he skipped to the NFL leaving Wimbush who gave us another glimmer of hope with a 10 win season but then inevitably backtracked and lost the job to Book..

Who’s been more than solid at the position.. I don’t want to downplay how close ND has been to a championship over the last few years.. it’s been one hell of a job by Kelly. But it still baffles me that in 10 years at NOTRE DAME we haven’t been able to recruit a game changing QB & get him comfortably on the field ASAP.

We either had 6’0” guys who couldn’t get over the hump or 6’4” busts.

Tommy played admirably but we weren’t going back to the NC with him. Golson, Wimbush, Zaire either stalled or regressed developmentally and Kizer played the best out of them all but the team regressed so hard his second year.

Kiel and Jurkovic seemed to never even be in the running.. I mean the highest ranked QB recruits in Kelly’s history were the furthest ones from the field.

I’m not even asking for a Trevor Lawrence situation bc that is obviously rare.

But out of Pyne and Buchner I’d like to see efficient development and a 2-3 year starter emerge and compete for the playoffs bc they’ll certainly have the talent around them to do so.

Ian Book has been great but in today’s college football you need the dynamic, game changing guy.. especially at ND where we’re clearly at a recruiting disadvantage. Yes, we put together an impressive roster but not to the degree that we can get by with a good not great QB.

Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Joe Borrow and Jalen Hurts were the playoff QBs this year. Can you honestly say Book is in that conversation?

Not that Phil would have been but he’s the pedigree.. All I’m saying is I want to see the staff secure this damn position already with THE guy,

And so does every other college in America. Hell Oklahoma has had one helluva run with QBs and really haven't got any closer than ND to winning it all.

 

[BobbyMac]

And so does every other college in America. Hell Oklahoma has had one helluva run with QBs and really haven't got any closer than ND to winning it all.

They have a great shot of winning it last year with Kyler Murray & ND's D.

 

[Irish#1]

You fluffers beat the "everything is wonderful" drum over and over. No need for me to follow along with similar posts.

I'm proud of where ND is at. I finally am not the laughing stock of the CFB viewing parties.

But to act like everything is perfect and not to question the current flaws just because "well do you remember the Willingham days" is a silly, complacent perspective that I will never get.

Our RBs are Group of 5 RBs. I have no idea why ppl occasionally ask why Joe Wilkins isn't playing (he's not athletic enough).

I'm still proud of the program but there are places to still go

Not a fluffer. You take that back.

 

[NDdomer2]

They have a great shot of winning it last year with Kyler Murray & ND's D.

I agree but this ain't NCAA create a roster. While we're here dreaming for Kyler Murray level QB play OK is dreaming for high end D.

It's very few teams who can have it all in today's CFB landscape.

Personally, I like ND position better. Being one player away than 11.

 

[WilliamWallace]

I’ll clarify here.. I didn’t expect Kelly to start this kid over Book bc of his HS ratings. My frustration lies in the QB position overall and inability to land and develop the stud QB.

Obviously there are many circumstances involved in every players story..

But long story short, Kelly can hang his QB hat on Kizer & Book. Kizers first year starting gave us all the hope we’ve longed for at the QB position & the next year they went 4-8 with brutal losses to Navy, NC State, Duke, VaTech etc

Then he skipped to the NFL leaving Wimbush who gave us another glimmer of hope with a 10 win season but then inevitably backtracked and lost the job to Book..

Who’s been more than solid at the position.. I don’t want to downplay how close ND has been to a championship over the last few years.. it’s been one hell of a job by Kelly. But it still baffles me that in 10 years at NOTRE DAME we haven’t been able to recruit a game changing QB & get him comfortably on the field ASAP.

We either had 6’0” guys who couldn’t get over the hump or 6’4” busts.

Tommy played admirably but we weren’t going back to the NC with him. Golson, Wimbush, Zaire either stalled or regressed developmentally and Kizer played the best out of them all but the team regressed so hard his second year.

Kiel and Jurkovic seemed to never even be in the running.. I mean the highest ranked QB recruits in Kelly’s history were the furthest ones from the field.

I’m not even asking for a Trevor Lawrence situation bc that is obviously rare.

But out of Pyne and Buchner I’d like to see efficient development and a 2-3 year starter emerge and compete for the playoffs bc they’ll certainly have the talent around them to do so.

Ian Book has been great but in today’s college football you need the dynamic, game changing guy.. especially at ND where we’re clearly at a recruiting disadvantage. Yes, we put together an impressive roster but not to the degree that we can get by with a good not great QB.

Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Joe Borrow and Jalen Hurts were the playoff QBs this year. Can you honestly say Book is in that conversation?

Not that Phil would have been but he’s the pedigree.. All I’m saying is I want to see the staff secure this damn position already with THE guy,

I completely agree with this. I often feel we are the Cleveland Browns when it comes to QB’s (I’m still in Brady Quinn’s corner). I’ve felt this way for a long time. I personally have spent too much time watching highlight reels, and hoping that the next one will be the one. Usually just to end the same way. I think this is one thing that BK can say has been his biggest weakness. Not gonna continue to rant, just glad someone else feels the same.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

I can honestly say.
Ian will be in his 3rd year as a starter.
Ian will play and evaluate defenses better in the coming year.
Ian Is a stud that will get overlooked in his 3rd year...
ND has always had QB problems since Beeno Cook claimed 2 Heismans for Powlus... Not Ron's fault but It was a bit much. (RIP Beeno)
We'll never be an underdog,... regardless of Vegas.
Take Fields and Hurts outta the equation. They are good but have some very obvious flaws.
Book needs to understand we are behind him. QB play is 90% confidence 10% ability... at his level of play.
Ask Johnny Football

I disagree with the bolded.. Although it may happen, I don’t think the staff has done anything to make us think a QB under their tutelage will make the leaps they should year to year..

 

[fightingirish26]

Kiel and Jurkovic seemed to never even be in the running.. I mean the highest ranked QB recruits in Kelly’s history were the furthest ones from the field.

Kiel was all over the place during the recruiting process and transferred before he even got to his sophomore season. IIRC he left before the Golson news broke. Don't think that's the best example.

 

[WilliamWallace]

Shame on me for selling our PA guys short. It is a pretty nice list of names. Guess I was hung up on a few high profile kids from the state.

 

[vuirish]

https://twitter.com/toughdsheridan/status/1216003446215794688?s=21

BC bound I guess.

 

[edgesofsanity]

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[Henges24]

Definitely worse places he could have ended up.

 

[stlnd01]

Well that was quick. I guess he's not changing his mind if we hire Moorhead. Seems like a fine enough place for him to land though.
Will be interesting to see if he tries for/gets a waiver or sits a year and risks then sitting behind whoever their new QB will be.

 

[irishtrooper]

Still feel gross. I wish he would stay another year grad xfer and move on if he feels the same. Get the ND diploma kid!

 

[Luckylucci]

His girl is at Boston University for Field Hockey.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

His girl is at Boston University for Field Hockey.

College girlfriend impacting college destination is problem numero uno. And if he was at ND for two years with his girl in Boston, what a waste of two years of college haha

 

[stlnd01]

College girlfriend impacting college destination is problem numero uno. And if he was at ND for two years with his girl in Boston, what a waste of two years of college haha

Was he likely to land somewhere better than BC regardless though? A decent P5 program with an open QB position and a new coaching staff (clean slate for all). Wasn't like he was going to Georgia or Oregon and take their job. Also a good school, if he cares about the academics part.
Seems like a good match all around, and the girl at the school up the street is a bonus.

 

[BobbyMac]

One of his buddies from Pine-Richland, Andrew Petcash plays basketball at BU also.

 

[Circa]

Shame on me for selling our PA guys short. It is a pretty nice list of names. Guess I was hung up on a few high profile kids from the state.

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[zelezo vlk]

Good luck, Phil.

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[Crazy Balki]

College girlfriend impacting college destination is problem numero uno. And if he was at ND for two years with his girl in Boston, what a waste of two years of college haha

I mean, if his goal is to start and bolster his draft stock, seemed growingly apparent that it wasn't going to happen here with Book returning and Clark seemingly ready to pass him up (if he hadn't already).

BC, Fredo status aside, is a great school to attend and if he can start, more power to him. His girl is at BU and is athletic, with no other info, I would assume she is a keeper.

 

[texbender]

OK, good luck and good bye.
Next MAN in, please.

 

[stpeteirish]

I'm surprised he picked BC. They have one of the worst passing games in CFB and the new regime will have their hands full fixing it quickly. Cincinnati absolutely abused their offense in that bowl game they just played. Their receivers are well below average. Addazio recruited for his offense.

I guess he liked the idea of going to a Catholic school with good academics. So why go for the 2nd rate school in that category when you're already at the first rate one?

 

[irishandy]

I thought Brendon Clark looked better than PJ when both got in the game this year.

I don't blame him for wanting to leave because he wants to play, but then again I think most here would think that Book has surpassed our expectations at ND.

My biggest blame would be Rees not developing him or did ND swing and miss in the recruiting process?

And people want Rees as our OC....

Good luck PJ!