'18 OH MLB Dallas Gant (Ohio State Verbal)

[beryirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">2018 LB Dallas Gant (<a href="https://twitter.com/dallas_gant">@dallas_gant</a>) and 2018 DT Ja’mion Franklin (<a href="https://twitter.com/Jamion_Franklin">@Jamion_Franklin</a>) join Power Hour! <a href="https://t.co/RzuR6YQGOv">https://t.co/RzuR6YQGOv</a> <a href="https://t.co/QC0CrVdgTe">pic.twitter.com/QC0CrVdgTe</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/860122495457820672">May 4, 2017</a></blockquote>
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READING TOO MUCH INTO HIS WORDS -

Mike asked him that since he visited both schools within the last two weeks if that, during those visits, did he come to a conclusion on where he wanted to go or if it made it harder...

"Umm i wouldn't say it was harder to make my decision. This just solidifying the thoughts on my list right now. i have a list of orders and just solidifying that with seeing some coaches DOWN there and seeing some players and all that."

Makes me think he has OSU in the front of his brain and had a lil tell right there. I'd say he's OSU bound.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Maybe the same guy that bought Barnett's golf bag will be interested in a ND jacket

 

[Irish#1]

READING TOO MUCH INTO HIS WORDS -

Mike asked him that since he visited both schools within the last two weeks if that, during those visits, did he come to a conclusion on where he wanted to go or if it made it harder...

"Umm i wouldn't say it was harder to make my decision. This just solidifying the thoughts on my list right now. i have a list of orders and just solidifying that with seeing some coaches DOWN there and seeing some players and all that."

Makes me think he has OSU in the front of his brain and had a lil tell right there. I'd say he's OSU bound.

SB certainly isn't "down there" when you're in Ohio.

Maybe the same guy that bought Barnett's golf bag will be interested in a ND jacket

Rep'd ya! lol

 

[koonja]

Gant = OSU.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Nah, listen to the interview, it seems pretty clear the decision's made.

Gant = OSU.

Yup

 

[dublinirish]

Nah, listen to the interview, it seems pretty clear the decision's made.



Yup

if a kid says his goal is to play in the NFL and he wants to major in "sports management" then he ain't going to ND..

 

[Domina Nostra]

if a kid says his goal is to play in the NFL and he wants to major in "sports management" then he ain't going to ND..

To me, its like majoring in video game testing. Of course you want to do that. So do a billion other people. 5 managers for every pro-athlete.

 

[dublinirish]

To me, its like majoring in video game testing. Of course you want to do that. So do a billion other people. 5 managers for every pro-athlete.

its a total red flag to me as a sign of a kid's immaturity. If you know anything about the world then you know that's not a career choice a sensible person would consider. It says to me a kid hasn't done any homework on what kind of career they want to have. It's basically a football player's degree and for kids who have little interest in pushing themselves academically.

Its actually very disappointing to hear this from a kid who has hyped as having his head screwed on about the whole process and was actually considering ND. If i heard this interview 6 months ago I would have said he's never coming.

 

[PANDFAN]

its a total red flag to me as a sign of a kid's immaturity. If you know anything about the world then you know that's not a career choice a sensible person would consider. It says to me a kid hasn't done any homework on what kind of career they want to have. It's basically a football player's degree and for kids who have little interest in pushing themselves academically.

Its actually very disappointing to hear this from a kid who has hyped as having his head screwed on about the whole process and was actually considering ND. If i heard this interview 6 months ago I would have said he's never coming.

i agree that it means he isn't coming to ND...but IF it is this kid's dream to do that then who are we to say its immature???

 

[OCIrish]

Question for you lawyer types. Does sports management include possibly being a sports lawyer??? I get it that a sports agent and sports lawyer are two different job descriptions, bit essentially one could become a lawyer and still end up in sports management, correct???

 

[Cackalacky]

When someone doesn't like the life choices of an 18 yer old kid.

 

[Domina Nostra]

i agree that it means he isn't coming to ND...but IF it is this kid's dream to do that then who are we to say its immature???

When someone doesn't like the life choices of an 18 yer old kid.

LOL! We are the people who have been alive for twice as long as him, have jobs, and live in the real world (i.e., not school).

As far as "dreams," can you really call that a dream? Astronaut is a dream, oprah singer is a dream, ... Supreme Court justice, President, greatest bull rider that ever lived...

But sports agent should not count as a dream. It is simply not believable as a dream. It's more of a stock answer. Its what you say you want to be because all you've known is sports, and its how you continue to do sports when you can't play any more (but know you aren't going to be satisfied with high school coaching money). I'm calling BS on it as a dream.

Question for you lawyer types. Does sports management include possibly being a sports lawyer??? I get it that a sports agent and sports lawyer are two different job descriptions, bit essentially one could become a lawyer and still end up in sports management, correct???

You could do any major you want and go into law, but I guess it would help to get a job as a sports lawyer on the other end. Mostly what helps is either: (1) going to a good law school and killing it, (2) having useful connections.

 

[dublinirish]

i agree that it means he isn't coming to ND...but IF it is this kid's dream to do that then who are we to say its immature???

kids who are serious about academics and know the worth of a ND degree don't have plans like that IMO. This kid is NFL or bust and IMO he's all OSU.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

No problem with his choice in majors, just wish he'd pursue it at ND.

 

[BobbyMac]

I thought my teammate in college was silly for wanting to be a sports agent. Then he joined fellow Valpo grad Eugene Parker's staff and landed Charlie Ward and Bonzi Wells.

He also worked with Roosevelt Barnes who did his undergrad at Purdue and never went to law school. I saw he made $15M last year.

Kids with vision can get a world class education at any B1G school.

Anytime you want to make broad brush claims of kids making bad educational decisions when picking a school not named ND, Stanford, NW or Duke remember this:

Myron Rolle, FSU, Rhodes Scholar.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I thought my teammate in college was silly for wanting to be a sports agent. Then he joined fellow Valpo grad Eugene Parker's staff and landed Charlie Ward and Bonzi Wells.

He also worked with Roosevelt Barnes who did his undergrad at Purdue and never went to law school. I saw he made $15M last year.

Kids with vision can get a world class education at any B1G school.

Anytime you want to make broad brush claims of kids making bad educational decisions when picking a school not named ND, Stanford, NW or Duke remember this:

Myron Rolle, FSU, Rhodes Scholar.

I'd say the same thing about art history majors at Harvard, despite the fact that one of them may have gone on to the Met, invested in an obscure artist, and made $20M last year.

Those stories are obviously why everyone goes into those careers. Some people do great.

I was just poking fun at these kids because every third one wants to go into sports broadcasting or sports management. Of course they do. At the top, its big money in the entertainment business. But as the ESPN layoffs show, there are only so many of those jobs.

I also laugh at the kids who want to play football at Stanford, and major in computer science. Football is a full time job, and my guess is that computer science at Stanford is pretty rigorous.

Please don't take me that seriously. I'm sure he's a great kid and hope he makes a bajillion dollars a second as an agent.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Ask Mark Cuban what he thinks about majoring in Sports Management

 

[BobbyMac]

Ask Mark Cuban what he thinks about majoring in Sports Management

Then ask him how the hell he ever made anything out of himself with a public school degree from a basketball factory best known for their music school... which overall is rated lower than tOSU.

 

[Irish#1]

I thought my teammate in college was silly for wanting to be a sports agent. Then he joined fellow Valpo grad Eugene Parker's staff and landed Charlie Ward and Bonzi Wells.

He also worked with Roosevelt Barnes who did his undergrad at Purdue and never went to law school. I saw he made $15M last year.

Kids with vision can get a world class education at any B1G school.

Anytime you want to make broad brush claims of kids making bad educational decisions when picking a school not named ND, Stanford, NW or Duke remember this:

Myron Rolle, FSU, Rhodes Scholar.

Parker also graduated from Purdue did he not?

 

[ab2cmiller]

Then ask him how the hell he ever made anything out of himself with a public school degree from a basketball factory best known for their music school... which overall is rated lower than tOSU.

He graduated from Kelley School of Business. IU is definitely a top 20 business school for undergrad. I would argue most people think that IU is more well known for their business school then their music school.

Regardless, your point is that Cuban made something out of himself despite the odds, and that people who major in sports management can too. Obviously that is true. However, there are many more people majoring in sports management then the number of positions that are available in the field.

Cuban has said he literally gets 20 resumes a week from people (many who are sports management majors) who are willing to work for free, they just want an opportunity to work for the experience.

Tough to succeed in that field. If you can find a job, most are working in the ticket offices of various clubs for very little pay. Maybe Dallas will beat the odds.

 

[BobbyMac]

Parker also graduated from Purdue did he not?

Yeah so what's your point??? Not like he's an astronaut or something!

Seriously though, played basketball and was the captain of the Final Four team with JBC.

Got drafted but immediately enrolled at VU. Vision.

Passed away last year. RIP

 

[Domina Nostra]

Yeah so what's your point??? Not like he's an astronaut or something!

Seriously though, played basketball and was the captain of the Final Four team with JBC.

Got drafted but immediately enrolled at VU. Vision.

Passed away last year. RIP

C'mon, my friend! You are comparing a 60 year old sports legend who was a pioneer and leader in a burgeoning field, to the 10,000 kids who say they want to go into that field now, as if everyone of them had your friend's vision!

There is no "vision" in a football recruit saying you want to go into sports management in 2017. It's like saying you want to go into "computers" in 1978. 1978 is a year before ESPN, 2017 is all big sports all over everything all the time.

An ambitious smart kid can still do great in sports management, but, as Marc Cuban pointed out, he's going to be one of thousands of similarly situated people vying for a very limited pool.

Also, the astronaut thing is self-explanatory. You could have an incredible career opening photocopy shops nationwide and meet tons of interesting people while making a fortune. I still doubt that anyone dreams of that. I was calling BS on the idea that sports management was Gant's "dream." Did he ever say that? I doubt it. I bet football is his dream. Sports management is his plan.

 

[stlnd01]

Successful people come from all sorts of schools and some kids achieve their dream of making it as a sports agent, or whatever.
But majoring in sports management at OSU vs. majoring in, say, business at Notre Dame is like recruiting a three-star vs. a five-star. Sure some three-stars turn out to be great, but when you're a five the odds are just better.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Successful people come from all sorts of schools and some kids achieve their dream of making it as a sports agent, or whatever.
But majoring in sports management at OSU vs. majoring in, say, business at Notre Dame is like recruiting a three-star vs. a five-star. Sure some three-stars turn out to be great, but when you're a five the odds are just better.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more with this statement. It's just a fact.

And where you go matters even less when you have, as NDCrusader, real vision and ambition.

But most people don't! So going to a great school with a superior reputation is helpful.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Just listened to the interview:

1) he calls ND "down there," so no OSU connotations there
2) he calls the NFL his goal and dream
3) his parents are both administrators in the Toledo public school stystem
4) he's thinks business, sports management now, was thinking law enforcement
5) football academics and comfort are his priorities (OSU leads for football, ND for academics and fit)

If everyone didn't seem to know, I'd think ND.

 

[Irish#1]

its a total red flag to me as a sign of a kid's immaturity. If you know anything about the world then you know that's not a career choice a sensible person would consider. It says to me a kid hasn't done any homework on what kind of career they want to have. It's basically a football player's degree and for kids who have little interest in pushing themselves academically.

Its actually very disappointing to hear this from a kid who has hyped as having his head screwed on about the whole process and was actually considering ND. If i heard this interview 6 months ago I would have said he's never coming.

I won't bash the kid if he picks OSU, but he's hardly the first recruit that said academics was the priority then didn't pick ND.

 

[zelezo vlk]

For anybody on the fence, ISD was thinking OSU immediately after the interview. Stranger things have happened, but I'd say move on

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[condoms SUCk]

He graduated from Kelley School of Business. IU is definitely a top 20 business school for undergrad. I would argue most people think that IU is more well known for their business school then their music school.

Regardless, your point is that Cuban made something out of himself despite the odds, and that people who major in sports management can too. Obviously that is true. However, there are many more people majoring in sports management then the number of positions that are available in the field.

Cuban has said he literally gets 20 resumes a week from people (many who are sports management majors) who are willing to work for free, they just want an opportunity to work for the experience.

Tough to succeed in that field. If you can find a job, most are working in the ticket offices of various clubs for very little pay. Maybe Dallas will beat the odds.

They have a pretty good Med School as well.
Good luck to Grant in wherever he does, hope the Irish can get one last crack at it.

 

[Irish#1]

For anybody on the fence, ISD was thinking OSU immediately after the interview. Stranger things have happened, but I'd say move on

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Except for a few stragglers, I think everyone moved on about a week ago.

 

[IrishLax]

Except for a few stragglers, I think everyone moved on about a week ago.

Yup. Also, Gant has a very good head on his shoulders so I don't understand the maturity comments. He's making a pretty rational decision from a football standpoint.