'18 OH MLB Dallas Gant (Ohio State Verbal)

[T-Boone]

Except for a few stragglers, I think everyone moved on about a week ago.

We should keep his number. If Morgan looks like going in the first couple of rounds and ND wins a few big games he might jump. If we still want him. I'm not thinking of him as a total pick and stick guy any more. What if the factory has a bad year?

 

[Domina Nostra]

We should keep his number. If Morgan looks like going in the first couple of rounds and ND wins a few big games he might jump. If we still want him. I'm not thinking of him as a total pick and stick guy any more. What if the factory has a bad year?

The more likely issue is Urban snagging a couple 5-star LBs from south of the Mason Dixon line...

 

[NDdomer2]

Yup. Also, Gant has a very good head on his shoulders so I don't understand the maturity comments. He's making a pretty rational decision from a football standpoint.

If his ultimate goal is to get to the NFL, OSU should be the pick, IMO.

LB'ers drafted under Kelly (2010-2017): Darius Flemming (5, 2012), Manti T'eo (2, 2013), Prince Shembo (4, 2014) and Jaylon Smith (2, 2016)

LB'ers drafted under Urban (2012-2017): Raekwon McMillan(2nd, 2017), Darron Lee(1st, 2016), Joshua Perry (4th, 2016) Ryan Shazier(1st, 2014)

Looks even on the surface, 4 each right. Average draft position: BK-3.25 UM-2. Average per year coaching: BK-0.5 UM-.66. Ryan Shazier was only LB of the 4 that wasn't recruited by Urban, while Flemming and T'eo were not recruited by BK.

The numbers point to OSU as the better option. Not by a mile, but its significant enough to sway you if that was your #1 factor in choosing a college.

 

[koonja]

If his ultimate goal is to get to the NFL, OSU should be the pick, IMO.

LB'ers drafted under Kelly (2010-2017): Darius Flemming (5, 2012), Manti T'eo (2, 2013), Prince Shembo (4, 2014) and Jaylon Smith (2, 2016)

LB'ers drafted under Urban (2012-2017): Raekwon McMillan(2nd, 2017), Darron Lee(1st, 2016), Joshua Perry (4th, 2016) Ryan Shazier(1st, 2014)

Looks even on the surface, 4 each right. Average draft position: BK-3.25 UM-2. Average per year coaching: BK-0.5 UM-.66. Ryan Shazier was only LB of the 4 that wasn't recruited by Urban, while Flemming and T'eo were not recruited by BK.

The numbers point to OSU as the better option. Not by a mile, but its significant enough to sway you if that was your #1 factor in choosing a college.

Right, the only football argument for ND is that it's easier to see the field at LB, which could theoretically help you get drafted.

It's not at all out of the question that a ~3rd round talent at LB be a backup his entire career at OSU behind a 1st/2nd round LB the way they recruit LBs.

 

[dublinirish]

Right, the only football argument for ND is that it's easier to see the field at LB, which could theoretically help you get drafted.

It's not at all out of the question that a ~3rd round talent at LB be a backup his entire career at OSU behind a 1st/2nd round LB the way they recruit LBs.

look at Justin Hilliard, he's still not cracked the starting lineup yet.

 

[zelezo vlk]

look at Justin Hilliard, he's still not cracked the starting lineup yet.

Here I thought he transferred. Hilliard is definitely who came to mind during this whole recruitment.

 

[Luckylucci]

look at Justin Hilliard, he's still not cracked the starting lineup yet.

The recruitments are very similar to me. I think Urban views them as trophies, that he must have. The top player in Ohio can't go to another school, let alone one in the Midwest. So he'll recruit the heck out of them. However, are they really in his long term plans? Obviously it's some speculation but he's certainly willing to recruit over his local talent. And they are still recruiting all of the top LB's. I'll be interested to watch Gant's progression.

 

[IrishLion]

look at Justin Hilliard, he's still not cracked the starting lineup yet.

Here I thought he transferred. Hilliard is definitely who came to mind during this whole recruitment.

I thought he was in-line to play a lot for them this fall.

I know he did some good stuff in their spring game that has some of their fans excited.

 

[Crazy Balki]

If his ultimate goal is to get to the NFL, OSU should be the pick, IMO.

LB'ers drafted under Kelly (2010-2017): Darius Flemming (5, 2012), Manti T'eo (2, 2013), Prince Shembo (4, 2014) and Jaylon Smith (2, 2016)

LB'ers drafted under Urban (2012-2017): Raekwon McMillan(2nd, 2017), Darron Lee(1st, 2016), Joshua Perry (4th, 2016) Ryan Shazier(1st, 2014)

Looks even on the surface, 4 each right. Average draft position: BK-3.25 UM-2. Average per year coaching: BK-0.5 UM-.66. Ryan Shazier was only LB of the 4 that wasn't recruited by Urban, while Flemming and T'eo were not recruited by BK.

The numbers point to OSU as the better option. Not by a mile, but its significant enough to sway you if that was your #1 factor in choosing a college.

Thats not really fair. Prior to his bowl game injury, Jaylon was a projected top 5 pick. Heck Te'o was expected to go in the top half of the first round. All in all, it doesnt really strike me as two stark contrasts. ND and Ohio St are good at getting players drafted.

And outside of Shazier, O $Us guys arent exactly lighting things up.

 

[PANDFAN]

kids who are serious about academics and know the worth of a ND degree don't have plans like that IMO. This kid is NFL or bust and IMO he's all OSU.

I thought my teammate in college was silly for wanting to be a sports agent. Then he joined fellow Valpo grad Eugene Parker's staff and landed Charlie Ward and Bonzi Wells.

He also worked with Roosevelt Barnes who did his undergrad at Purdue and never went to law school. I saw he made $15M last year.

Kids with vision can get a world class education at any B1G school.

Anytime you want to make broad brush claims of kids making bad educational decisions when picking a school not named ND, Stanford, NW or Duke remember this:

Myron Rolle, FSU, Rhodes Scholar.

my thoughts exactly Crusader!!! and guess what he earned a degree in......a bachelor's degree in Exercise Science

YES that is 1 example but however how many rhode scholars have been offered to ND athletes vs other institutions??? i haven't heard of ND having one at least in my lifetime...however i believe one from tcu just had one (omg not ND) and obvious Myron at fsu

 

[jspags10pg]

In all the LB's getting drafted talk, lets not forget that a healthy Jaylon was a top 5 lock and was number 1 on a lot of boards. His injury not only hurt him but also ND recruiting. Mostly defensive recruiting and LB specifically. Hopefully the coaches have the clips of analysts saying Jaylon would have been their number 1 player if not for a freak injury.

ND is just as capable at developing talented players as anyone. Plenty of proof to show that in the draft. Te'o probably would have went a bit higher too if not for his whole fiasco as well. The LB's getting drafted talk is basically a wash. Team success on the other hand...not so much.

 

[Domina Nostra]

my thoughts exactly Crusader!!! and guess what he earned a degree in......a bachelor's degree in Exercise Science

YES that is 1 example but however how many rhode scholars have been offered to ND athletes vs other institutions??? i haven't heard of ND having one at least in my lifetime...however i believe one from tcu just had one (omg not ND) and obvious Myron at fsu

And that QB from Alabama...

But all of this is missing the forest for the trees. I've always agreed that you can excel academically at any school. But the same goes for football. You can get drafted from any school in the country, and there were D3 kids in the draft.

Does that mean that D3 school has the football resources, experience, connections, and history that Alabama, USC, FSU, OSU, Michigan, or ND have? Of course not!

Normally kids who are football first go to elite football schools for obvious reasons. Normally kids who are academics first go to elite academic schools for obvious reasons. Its not confusing. The exception doesn't disprove the rule.

 

[zelezo vlk]

my thoughts exactly Crusader!!! and guess what he earned a degree in......a bachelor's degree in Exercise Science

YES that is 1 example but however how many rhode scholars have been offered to ND athletes vs other institutions??? i haven't heard of ND having one at least in my lifetime...however i believe one from tcu just had one (omg not ND) and obvious Myron at fsu

Depends on if Li'l Admiral made it or not. I haven't kept up with it

 

[stlnd01]

And that QB from Alabama...

But all of this is missing the forest for the trees. I've always agreed that you can excel academically at any school. But the same goes for football. You can get drafted from any school in the country, and there were D3 kids in the draft.

Does that mean that D3 school has the football resources, experience, connections, and history that Alabama, USC, FSU, OSU, Michigan, or ND have? Of course not!

Normally kids who are football first go to elite football schools for obvious reasons. Normally kids who are academics first go to elite academic schools for obvious reasons. Its not confusing. The exception doesn't disprove the rule.

Exactly. In this context a Rhodes Scholar is a supernova, kind of a freak event that says more about the individual involved than the school. More relevant metrics would include a program's graduation rate and how many football players are succeeding in "something than sports," say, 5-10 years out.

 

[Irish#1]

In all the LB's getting drafted talk, lets not forget that a healthy Jaylon was a top 5 lock and was number 1 on a lot of boards. His injury not only hurt him but also ND recruiting. Mostly defensive recruiting and LB specifically. Hopefully the coaches have the clips of analysts saying Jaylon would have been their number 1 player if not for a freak injury.

ND is just as capable at developing talented players as anyone. Plenty of proof to show that in the draft. Te'o probably would have went a bit higher too if not for his whole fiasco as well. The LB's getting drafted talk is basically a wash. Team success on the other hand...not so much.

That's the defining difference and why Urbie is getting these kids to "thank ND" for the offer, then go to OSU.

I no longer pay attention to what a recruit says about academics. As I mentioned before, we've seen too many kids who:
1. Talked academics as the #1 box to check.
2. Loved the academics offered at ND.
3. Talk about the ND degree sets you up for life.

Then pick another school.

After all, they are getting recruited to play football.

 

[koonja]

According to the article, BK is the only HC amongst the 5 teams not contacting him. Lol.

Gant said coaches from all five schools continue contacting him.

“From Ohio State it’s coach (Bill) Davis, coach (Greg) Stud(rawa), and coach (Urban) Meyer. From Notre Dame it’s coach (Mike) Elko and coach (Clark) Lea. From Michigan it’s coach (Jim) Harbaugh, coach (Michael) Zordich and coach (Don) Brown. From Michigan State it’s coach (Mark) Dantonio and coach (Mike) Tressel. From Penn State it’s
coach (Josh) Gattis, coach (Brent) Pry and coach (James) Franklin.”

https://ohiostate.247sports.com/Art...uckeyes-LB-target-Dallas-Gant-ta-52689907/Amp

 

[IrishLion]

You almost can't make this shit up.

 

[Meatloaf]

According to the article, BK is the only HC amongst the 5 teams not contacting him. Lol.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Cali_domer]

Not a big deal, were better off, Kelly is too busy, Kelly is a top 5 coach he ain't got no time for that.

 

[Luckylucci]

FWIW, Franklin is his interview with BGI today, mentioned that he's in regular communication with Kelly, Elko, and Elston.

 

[zelezo vlk]

FWIW, Franklin is his interview with BGI today, mentioned that he's in regular communication with Kelly, Elko, and Elston.

Get outta here, let us have this!

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[Sherm Sticky]

According to the article, BK is the only HC amongst the 5 teams not contacting him. Lol.

Gant said coaches from all five schools continue contacting him.

“From Ohio State it’s coach (Bill) Davis, coach (Greg) Stud(rawa), and coach (Urban) Meyer. From Notre Dame it’s coach (Mike) Elko and coach (Clark) Lea. From Michigan it’s coach (Jim) Harbaugh, coach (Michael) Zordich and coach (Don) Brown. From Michigan State it’s coach (Mark) Dantonio and coach (Mike) Tressel. From Penn State it’s
coach (Josh) Gattis, coach (Brent) Pry and coach (James) Franklin.”

https://ohiostate.247sports.com/Art...uckeyes-LB-target-Dallas-Gant-ta-52689907/Amp

It's an OSU article. How do you know that the author didn't "accidentally" leave off Kelly's name, knowing that ND is the biggest competition for Gant.


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[koonja]

It's an OSU article. How do you know that the write didn't "accidentally" leave of Kelly's name, knowing that ND is the biggest completion for Gant.


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I don't think osu is concerned about nd in recruiting. They have bigger fish to fry. If anything they'd leave out harbaugh.

 

[Valpodoc85]

Bogs where are you?
Seems we're n the wind
think this will trail into the season

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Bogs where are you?
Seems we're n the wind
think this will trail into the season

Lol still trying to believe Bogs has inside info, and ND is still in it?

 

[BeauBenken]

Bogs where are you?
Seems we're n the wind
think this will trail into the season

Bogtrotter07 asked that his account be permanently deleted.

 

[Southside Sully]

Bogtrotter07 asked that his account be permanently deleted.

 

[Henges24]

Bogs collapsed just like this Dallas Gant recruitment.

RIP to both.

 

[dublinirish]

Bogtrotter07 asked that his account be permanently deleted.

he sent me a bunch of vbucks before he left. didn't get a chance to say thanks/goodbye :/

 

[Blaise]