'18 FL WR Kevin Austin (Notre Dame Signee)

[calvegas04]

I guess I missed where Tyree isn't the most explosive, amazing thing to happen to us?

No italics. We have a lot of weapons coming back on Offense including Book. A RB that can house it on a stretch is game over with our OL right?

I was under the impression Book, Keys, Lenzy, Tyree, Armstrong, Austin, 4/5 OL, Tremble .. they all return right?

Defense should bring back major parts.

Tyree is still in HS

 

[ND88]

The reporters I follow were effusive in their praise of his ability. They constantly mentioned how he just moves different than our other players; I take that as a nod to his near-exceptional athleticism.

Put it this way: there is all the reason in the world to bet against him being a starter next year and I'm willing to take anyone on that bet.

Ugh, just play the guy, Kelly. Let’s be the bad guys. Let him rip. Pinkett-style.

 

[D-BOE34]

Tyree is still in HS

"Coming back" for me meant next year. My bad.

 

[stlnd01]

Regardless of whether he's a Day One starter, I will be v impressed with Kevin Austin if he sticks out a full-year suspension, practices with the team throughout it and comes back to be a quality player for us next year.
Rooting for this one.

 

[PANDFAN]

Regardless of whether he's a Day One starter, I will be v impressed with Kevin Austin if he sticks out a full-year suspension, practices with the team throughout it and comes back to be a quality player for us next year.
Rooting for this one.

from what i have been told, he is an EXCELLENT student, GREAT GRADES and plans to be at ND

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

from what i have been told, he is an EXCELLENT student, GREAT GRADES and plans to be at ND

In that case, it'd be really nice to see the draconian marijuana laws across the country get updated. If a kid is holding down his grades at ND while being a collegiate athlete, it'd be nice to think he's shown he can handle a weekend intoxicant.

But, this isn't an ND problem, per se.

 

[BabyIrish]

Driskell reported yesterday (from a couple of sources) that Austin is not suspended for the year like initially thought and he could play at some point this season.

https://www.si.com/college/notredame/football/notre-dame-football-kevin-austin-return/

 

[tko]

My Lord, stop the madness. Is the kid suspended or not? Is it due to weed or being a malcontent? Anyone have some real insight?

 

[stpeteirish]

My Lord, stop the madness. Is the kid suspended or not? Is it due to weed or being a malcontent? Anyone have some real insight?

prob not; and I wouldn't trust Driskell to clear things up.

 

[ulukinatme]

Driskell reported yesterday (from a couple of sources) that Austin is not suspended for the year like initially thought and he could play at some point this season.

https://www.si.com/college/notredame/football/notre-dame-football-kevin-austin-return/

My Lord, stop the madness. Is the kid suspended or not? Is it due to weed or being a malcontent? Anyone have some real insight?

 

[PANDFAN]

I know for 100% not playing this year

 

[rtrn2glory]

Did he already red shirt?

 

[stlnd01]

Did he already red shirt?

No. He played in more than four games as a freshman last year. But if he's as talented as everyone says he's probably not on the five-year plan regardless.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Could <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> WR Kevin Austin play this season? (Silent suspension; conflicting reports re: length.)<br>"We'll see. It's a week-to-week situation," Brian Kelly says.<br>Translation: We'll learn Austin might play if/when he plays.</p>— Douglas Farmer (@D_Farmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/D_Farmer/status/1181243089207414785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Did he already red shirt?

No, but I don't think he can use this year as a red shirt if the suspension is related to drug testing.

(5) Application for Fifth Year of Athletics Eligibility. A student-athlete who is banned from intercollegiate competition for a whole or part of any season as part of a sanction under this Program shall not be permitted to assert inability to compete during the ban as a basis for seeking a fifth year of athletics eligibility at Notre Dame.

https://www3.nd.edu/~ncaacomp/documents/DrugTestPolicy_summer2016FINAL.pdf

Maybe the loophole there is that if he is technically allowed to play more than 4 games but doesn't then he isn't using the sanction as basis for the fifth year.

 

[IrishFaninTX]

No, but I don't think he can use this year as a red shirt if the suspension is related to drug testing.


https://www3.nd.edu/~ncaacomp/documents/DrugTestPolicy_summer2016FINAL.pdf

Maybe the loophole there is that if he is technically allowed to play more than 4 games but doesn't then he isn't using the sanction as basis for the fifth year.

So does that mean he can't red shirt ever now or if he does red shirt he'll have to sit out another year? If he can't red shirt ever then he only has 2 years after this year. That sucks

 

[FrankMA]

My Lord, stop the madness. Is the kid suspended or not? Is it due to weed or being a malcontent? Anyone have some real insight?

from B. Kelly press coference for USC: With regard to Kevin Austin, does he practice with you on a daily basis?
BRIAN KELLY: He does, yes.
Is there a possibility he still sees action this season?
BRIAN KELLY: We’ll see. It’s a week-to-week situation.

 

[ThePiombino]

NCAA didn't suspend him, the school did. Or the football program. I don't think this would apply to Kevin.

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[IrishFanJMercy]

Kelly is saving his games for
uSC, Michigan

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

So does that mean he can't red shirt ever now or if he does red shirt he'll have to sit out another year? If he can't red shirt ever then he only has 2 years after this year. That sucks

I'm pretty sure it means just this year doesn't count. So basically this year counts as one of his 4 active years in ND's eyes in terms of playing 4 in 5. Again, there might be a loophole, but that seems to be the situation right now. It also doesn't effect him if he were to transfer because it seems to just be a ND rule and I think in the NCAA's eyes he would be a redshirt this year if plays 4 or fewer games. None of this probably matters anyway because if he does end up doing a fifth year then its probably because he turns out not to be good in which case he would probably transfer and be able to count the suspended year as a redshirt.

One thing that is interesting with Kelly's comments about it being week to week is that it might not be a failed test for marijuana, but an inadvertent PED use which was successfully appealed. It could be a case where he tested positive for a PED but was able to prove it was from a contaminated supplement or something else which were certified safe. If that were the case, then he would be able to practice, but not play until the PED cleared his system and he got a negative retest. Theoretically it would explain the situation from the initial 4 game report (reported as failed test and assumed it was the same 4 game as Dex), to the season long report (failed for PEDs is a year long suspension), to the subsequent uncertainty (the appeal got rid of the year long suspension but still holds him out of games for an indefinite time). However, while both this scenario and the more commonly accepted one are both speculatory, this one seems less likely given we have had a few occurrences of the commonly accepted.

 

[T-Boone]

from B. Kelly press coference for USC: With regard to Kevin Austin, does he practice with you on a daily basis?
BRIAN KELLY: He does, yes.
Is there a possibility he still sees action this season?
BRIAN KELLY: We’ll see. It’s a week-to-week situation.

That is a yes.

 

[PANDFAN]

I'm pretty sure it means just this year doesn't count. So basically this year counts as one of his 4 active years in ND's eyes in terms of playing 4 in 5. Again, there might be a loophole, but that seems to be the situation right now. It also doesn't effect him if he were to transfer because it seems to just be a ND rule and I think in the NCAA's eyes he would be a redshirt this year if plays 4 or fewer games. None of this probably matters anyway because if he does end up doing a fifth year then its probably because he turns out not to be good in which case he would probably transfer and be able to count the suspended year as a redshirt.

One thing that is interesting with Kelly's comments about it being week to week is that it might not be a failed test for marijuana, but an inadvertent PED use which was successfully appealed. It could be a case where he tested positive for a PED but was able to prove it was from a contaminated supplement or something else which were certified safe. If that were the case, then he would be able to practice, but not play until the PED cleared his system and he got a negative retest. Theoretically it would explain the situation from the initial 4 game report (reported as failed test and assumed it was the same 4 game as Dex), to the season long report (failed for PEDs is a year long suspension), to the subsequent uncertainty (the appeal got rid of the year long suspension but still holds him out of games for an indefinite time). However, while both this scenario and the more commonly accepted one are both speculatory, this one seems less likely given we have had a few occurrences of the commonly accepted.

Your second paragraph is a NO

 

[IrishLax]

No reason to worry about Kevin Austin at this point. If he's back and focused next year he's not staying for more than two years anyways. And on top of that, the guideline for Notre Dame is not a black-and-white rule. They review every situation on a case-by-case basis to see whether or not they want to 1) admit them to a graduate school 2) allow them to play another year. I'd be surprised if Austin was ultimately eligible for a 5th year, but we're not having that discussion in earnest until 2022. And I'd be quite surprised if he's not gone in one way or another by then.

 

[Rack Em]

I have it on good authority that Austin has not been suspended by the University and hasn't gone through the University disciplinary process at all. This isn't a Dexter Williams situation. It's either an NCAA issue or an internal team suspension. But he wants to play next year otherwise he would have left already.

 

[NorthDakota]

I have it on good authority that Austin has not been suspended by the University and hasn't gone through the University disciplinary process at all. This isn't a Dexter Williams situation. It's either an NCAA issue or an internal team suspension. But he wants to play next year otherwise he would have left already.

Rooting for him.

 

[koonja]

I have it on good authority that Austin has not been suspended by the University and hasn't gone through the University disciplinary process at all. This isn't a Dexter Williams situation. It's either an NCAA issue or an internal team suspension. But he wants to play next year otherwise he would have left already.

Can confirm.

 

[Wingman Ray]

I have it on good authority that Austin has not been suspended by the University and hasn't gone through the University disciplinary process at all. This isn't a Dexter Williams situation. It's either an NCAA issue or an internal team suspension. But he wants to play next year otherwise he would have left already.

What the heck would be grounds for an internal team suspension that would last a whole season? Did the guy get busted nailing BKs daughter or something?

#justkidding #nohateforme

 

[koonja]

What the heck would be grounds for an internal team suspension that would last a whole season? Did the guy get busted nailing BKs daughter or something?

#justkidding #nohateforme

NCAA suspended Austin - not ND. That is what rackem is saying.

 

[NorthDakota]

Did the guy get busted nailing BKs daughter or something?

#justkidding #nohateforme

That would be dealt with in an old testament sort of way.

He'd be begging for a suspension.

 

[Rack Em]

NCAA suspended Austin - not ND. That is what rackem is saying.

Or the team did.