'17 KY OT Jedrick Wills (Alabama Verbal)

[T Town Tommy]

this kid and Leatherwood will both be at BAMA. Just a visit, IMO.

Only kid we have a real shot at stealing from BAMA is the RB Najee Harris. His favorite coach is Jim Harbaugh and Harbaugh is on him hard, handling that recruitment personally.

Slow down buddy. I don't believe this kid ends up at Bama and Leatherwood isn't a given either. As far as Harris, he would be a fool to go to Michigan over Bama, even if Harbaugh is sleeping on his bedroom floor or climbing the tree by his window. He should realize one coach has flair... the other one lies down with NC rings every night.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Slow down buddy. I don't believe this kid ends up at Bama and Leatherwood isn't a given either. As far as Harris, he would be a fool to go to Michigan over Bama, even if Harbaugh is sleeping on his bedroom floor or climbing the tree by his window. He should realize one coach has flair... the other one lies down with NC rings every night.

Unless he actually cares about getting a diploma that is worth more than a 1 cent piece of paper. And of course, playing for a coach that wont flat out lie to every player that he is the next All American that starts as soon as he steps foot on campus. Ask ole blake about that one. Saban has never had an ounce of character in his body.

Not saying Harbaugh is great but Saban should be a pro coach not a college coach with the character he has. Any parent that would be okay with sending her kid to play for Saban is clueless to say the least.

 

[TomHaverford]

Slow down buddy. I don't believe this kid ends up at Bama and Leatherwood isn't a given either. As far as Harris, he would be a fool to go to Michigan over Bama, even if Harbaugh is sleeping on his bedroom floor or climbing the tree by his window. He should realize one coach has flair... the other one lies down with NC rings every night.

El oh El. How would he be a fool? Harbaugh wants to run the football just as much as Saban. And unlike Saban, he actually knows how to develop a QB and a passing game. Which in turn makes it easier on the RB. These kids want to play in the NFL. Harbaugh can sell them on that just as good if not better than Saban can.

He can relate to players more than Saban can in this way. He was a high level player in college, he was an All-American QB and he finished 2nd and then 3rd in the Heisman Trophy voting in back to back years. He was a 1st round NFL draft pick who played 14-15 seasons in the NFL and made a couple Pro Bowls. And then he coached in the NFL for 4 seasons and went to 3 straight Conference championship games and a Super Bowl and was a play away from winning a super bowl and a play away from getting back to another super bowl. He knows what it takes and how to win at the net level better than Saban does. Saban was a colossal failure when he got to the NFL and he never played a lick of football in the NFL let alone for 15 seasons.

Saban has rings, yeah. But he's spent 20+ years as a college coach.

Harbaugh is just getting started. You act like they've been coaching in college the same amount of time. They haven't.

Saban wasn't so hot his first go round at Michigan State. Mark Dantonio has far exceeded anything Saban ever did at State. Once Saban was able to stock-pile talent and load his roster to have more talent than they other teams, that's when everybody started calling him a great coach. He can't take yours and beat his. He's not Bill Synder. He's not Bill Belichik. People act like he is. But he's not. He needs a massive talent advantage over the field in order to be successful. He's not even Urban Meyer. I'd take Meyer over Saban in a second and not have to think twice about it.

Harbaugh took over a 1-11 Stanford program that was the absolute worst team in college football and in 4 seasons he took them from worst to first in the Pac. His last year they went 12-1 and won a BCS bowl. His first year at Michigan he took over a dumpster fire and went 10-3. Should've been 11-2 if not for a fluke play with 8 seconds left in a game. Execute a simple punt, they are 11-2 in his first year.

The guy has coached 5 full seasons of college football and is 5 games into his 6th season. And he took over two dumpster fires. Saban has spent 20 years in college. Not a fair comparison.

 

[TomHaverford]

Saban should be a pro coach.

yeah he tried that out. didn't work so well for him. dude was a massive failure as a pro coach.

 

[BobbyMac]

Slow down buddy. I don't believe this kid ends up at Bama and Leatherwood isn't a given either. As far as Harris, he would be a fool to go to Michigan over Bama, even if Harbaugh is sleeping on his bedroom floor or climbing the tree by his window. He should realize one coach has flair... the other one lies down with NC rings every night.

Saban's rings are at best a cherry on top of the sundae. What matters to the #1 RB in the country, one who's being compared to Fournette coming out of HS is that he chooses a school that will both prepare and feature him so he's a Top 5 pick in 3 years. Screw the education, the rings, the tradition, blah blah blah. Fortunately for you and the Bama staff, they're currently the best at that also. When you're that kind of prospect, it's all business.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Unless he actually cares about getting a diploma that is worth more than a 1 cent piece of paper. And of course, playing for a coach that wont flat out lie to every player that he is the next All American that starts as soon as he steps foot on campus. Ask ole blake about that one. Saban has never had an ounce of character in his body.

Not saying Harbaugh is great but Saban should be a pro coach not a college coach with the character he has. Any parent that would be okay with sending her kid to play for Saban is clueless to say the least.

Really dude? Michigan has one of the absolute worst records when it comes to educating their football players. At least Saban has elevated academics for the football program in his tenure at Bama. You should do your homework before posting.

As far as Saban and recruits? Maybe you should "educate" yourself before flapping your gums. Every high profile recruit at Bama will tell you the same thing. Saban offers no guarantee of playing time, regardless of hype or stars. He only offers the opportunity to compete. His comments about Barnett backed that up. If you aren't willing to compete, then go somewhere else.

Nothing wrong if you don't like Saban. But at least be somewhat accurate in what you post. Otherwise, it's just hatin'... and haters gonna hate. Enjoy.

 

[T Town Tommy]

El oh El. How would he be a fool? Harbaugh wants to run the football just as much as Saban. And unlike Saban, he actually knows how to develop a QB and a passing game. Which in turn makes it easier on the RB. These kids want to play in the NFL. Harbaugh can sell them on that just as good if not better than Saban can.

He can relate to players more than Saban can in this way. He was a high level player in college, he was an All-American QB and he finished 2nd and then 3rd in the Heisman Trophy voting in back to back years. He was a 1st round NFL draft pick who played 14-15 seasons in the NFL and made a couple Pro Bowls. And then he coached in the NFL for 4 seasons and went to 3 straight Conference championship games and a Super Bowl and was a play away from winning a super bowl and a play away from getting back to another super bowl. He knows what it takes and how to win at the net level better than Saban does. Saban was a colossal failure when he got to the NFL and he never played a lick of football in the NFL let alone for 15 seasons.

Saban has rings, yeah. But he's spent 20+ years as a college coach.

Harbaugh is just getting started. You act like they've been coaching in college the same amount of time. They haven't.

Saban wasn't so hot his first go round at Michigan State. Mark Dantonio has far exceeded anything Saban ever did at State. Once Saban was able to stock-pile talent and load his roster to have more talent than they other teams, that's when everybody started calling him a great coach. He can't take yours and beat his. He's not Bill Synder. He's not Bill Belichik. People act like he is. But he's not. He needs a massive talent advantage over the field in order to be successful. He's not even Urban Meyer. I'd take Meyer over Saban in a second and not have to think twice about it.

Harbaugh took over a 1-11 Stanford program that was the absolute worst team in college football and in 4 seasons he took them from worst to first in the Pac. His last year they went 12-1 and won a BCS bowl. His first year at Michigan he took over a dumpster fire and went 10-3. Should've been 11-2 if not for a fluke play with 8 seconds left in a game. Execute a simple punt, they are 11-2 in his first year.

The guy has coached 5 full seasons of college football and is 5 games into his 6th season. And he took over two dumpster fires. Saban has spent 20 years in college. Not a fair comparison.

Saban took over a horrible Michigan State program. MD took over what Saban rebuilt. Pretty significant difference. And I know your coach well. Used to hang with him and his brother when I was in college as his father coached my Hilltoppers back in the day and they would come down to campus often. I don't dislike Harbaugh... I just think at this point he is more glam than anything. Until he hoists the NC trophy, comparing him to a Saban isn't much of a comparison at all.

 

[TomHaverford]

Saban's rings are at best a cherry on top of the sundae. What matters to the #1 RB in the country, one who's being compared to Fournette coming out of HS is that he chooses a school that will both prepare and feature him so he's a Top 5 pick in 3 years. Screw the education, the rings, the tradition, blah blah blah. Fortunately for you and the Bama staff, they're currently the best at that also. When you're that kind of prospect, it's all business.

actually think that might hurt them.

Every RB they've produced and sent to the NFL has been a bust or a disappointment except for Eddie Lacy. Lacy was close to eating himself out of the NFL, thankfully for my fantasy team he's trimmed down and looks back to form.

Trent Richardson = one of the biggest NFL draft busts ever.

Mark Ingram = massive disappointment, but I saw it coming. Should've never been a 1st round pick. He's not a feature back, more of a compliment. One of the most overrated college players ever, blows my mind this guy has a Heisman Trophy.

TJ Yeldon = disappointment. Jags tried to give him every opportunity to establish himself and he couldn't so they had to bring in Chris Ivory.

Derrick Henry = can't get off the bench and beat out Demarco Murray. Just another system RB. LMAO @ anybody who actually thought he was better than Ezekiel Elliot.


Alabama is the place to go for RB's if they want to get used up in college and then fizzle out in the pros and never really do anything.

 

[T Town Tommy]

actually think that might hurt them.

Every RB they've produced and sent to the NFL has been a bust or a disappointment except for Eddie Lacy. Lacy was close to eating himself out of the NFL, thankfully for my fantasy team he's trimmed down and looks back to form.

Trent Richardson = one of the biggest NFL draft busts ever.

Mark Ingram = massive disappointment, but I saw it coming. Should've never been a 1st round pick. He's not a feature back, more of a compliment. One of the most overrated college players ever, blows my mind this guy has a Heisman Trophy.

TJ Yeldon = disappointment. Jags tried to give him every opportunity to establish himself and he couldn't so they had to bring in Chris Ivory.

Derrick Henry = can't get off the bench and beat out Demarco Murray. Just another system RB. LMAO @ anybody who actually thought he was better than Ezekiel Elliot.


Alabama is the place to go for RB's if they want to get used up in college and then fizzle out in the pros and never really do anything.

Lacy, Yeldon, and Mark H have been very good RBs in the league. Too early to tell on Henry as he hasn't been in the league long enough. But being behind D. Murray isn't anything to be ashamed about.

Rent A Trent has been a bust. No excuses on that one.

Oh yeah....

**** michigan

 

[TomHaverford]

Saban took over a horrible Michigan State program. MD took over what Saban rebuilt. Pretty significant difference. And I know your coach well. Used to hang with him and his brother when I was in college as his father coached my Hilltoppers back in the day and they would come down to campus often. I don't dislike Harbaugh... I just think at this point he is more glam than anything. Until he hoists the NC trophy, comparing him to a Saban isn't much of a comparison at all.

Lol what?

Saban was long gone before Dantonio got to Michigan State. Dantonio took over a HORRIBLE program that John L Smith had turned into a joke. John L Smith's last 3 years at MSU were 5-7, 5-6, and 4-8. And on top of that Dantonio had to switch offensive and defensive styles with a bunch of personnel that didn't fit his pro style schemes.

Dantonio flat out did things at Michigan State that Saban never did and has taken them to heights that Saban never could. When Michigan got the Orange Bowl nod in '99 over Michigan State that was the breaking point for Saban. He cut and ran and said I'm never going to over-take Michigan so I'm taking my ball and going home. Bitch move. When Michigan got the Sugar Bowl nod over Michigan State, Dantonio didn't take his ball and go home. He proceeded to kick Michigan's ass in for about the next 4-5 years.

 

[Rack Em]

This is an ND board.

Go bitch about which recruits are stupid for picking Bama over michigan and vice versa. Because if those are their final choices, they are stupid no matter what.

 

[BobbyMac]

actually think that might hurt them.

Every RB they've produced and sent to the NFL has been a bust or a disappointment except for Eddie Lacy. Lacy was close to eating himself out of the NFL, thankfully for my fantasy team he's trimmed down and looks back to form.

Trent Richardson = one of the biggest NFL draft busts ever.

Mark Ingram = massive disappointment, but I saw it coming. Should've never been a 1st round pick. He's not a feature back, more of a compliment. One of the most overrated college players ever, blows my mind this guy has a Heisman Trophy.

TJ Yeldon = disappointment. Jags tried to give him every opportunity to establish himself and he couldn't so they had to bring in Chris Ivory.

Derrick Henry = can't get off the bench and beat out Demarco Murray. Just another system RB. LMAO @ anybody who actually thought he was better than Ezekiel Elliot.


Alabama is the place to go for RB's if they want to get used up in college and then fizzle out in the pros and never really do anything.

Now that you've written all that out, please compare the above "busts or disappointments" checking accounts to the former Michigan RB's accounts.

 

[T Town Tommy]

This is an ND board.

Go bitch about which recruits are stupid for picking Bama over michigan and vice versa. Because if those are their final choices, they are stupid no matter what.

Agree. This is a ND board. Sorry for getting side tracked with the meatchicken clown who comes out of hiding once every four to five months.

Oh yeah... forgot:

****michigan

 

[irishog77]

actually think that might hurt them.

Every RB they've produced and sent to the NFL has been a bust or a disappointment except for Eddie Lacy. Lacy was close to eating himself out of the NFL, thankfully for my fantasy team he's trimmed down and looks back to form.

Trent Richardson = one of the biggest NFL draft busts ever.

Mark Ingram = massive disappointment, but I saw it coming. Should've never been a 1st round pick. He's not a feature back, more of a compliment. One of the most overrated college players ever, blows my mind this guy has a Heisman Trophy.

TJ Yeldon = disappointment. Jags tried to give him every opportunity to establish himself and he couldn't so they had to bring in Chris Ivory.

Derrick Henry = can't get off the bench and beat out Demarco Murray. Just another system RB. LMAO @ anybody who actually thought he was better than Ezekiel Elliot.


Alabama is the place to go for RB's if they want to get used up in college and then fizzle out in the pros and never really do anything.

I didn't like the Titans drafting him in the 2nd round and have some serious doubts about his success as a pro player, but the bolded is pretty ridiculous. Can't beat out Demarco Murray? Not many players on our planet world can. On top of that, Henry is 5 games into his career, so it's ridiculous to call him a bust or disappointment. After the trade for Murray, Titans fans, coaches, and management are getting exactly what they were hoping to get from him thus far.

 

[BeauBenken]

This is an ND board.

Go bitch about which recruits are stupid for picking Bama over michigan and vice versa. Because if those are their final choices, they are stupid no matter what.

Nah, dude. Two people from teams none of us can stand are roasting each other and we all get the pleasure to watch it from the comfort of our own board. Pull up a chair and grab your popcorn. This is great.

 

[Rack Em]

Nah, dude. Two people from teams none of us can stand are roasting each other and we all get the pleasure to watch it from the comfort of our own board. Pull up a chair and grab your popcorn. This is great.

I have to do my big kid job. You'll have one of those someday.

 

[IrishLion]

Trent Richardson = one of the biggest NFL draft busts ever.

Yes. He actually had a decent start in the league, but then somehow got broken mentally. Probably from being a member of the Cleveland Browns.

Mark Ingram = massive disappointment, but I saw it coming. Should've never been a 1st round pick. He's not a feature back, more of a compliment. One of the most overrated college players ever, blows my mind this guy has a Heisman Trophy.

Gotta disagree here. Ingram had a solid year last year (1000+ yards in an offense that doesn't place a focus on the run), and fits in very well with what New Orleans does. He's adjusted to their system and made himself a good piece of what they do overall, and not just as a "compliment."

TJ Yeldon = disappointment. Jags tried to give him every opportunity to establish himself and he couldn't so they had to bring in Chris Ivory.

I think it's still too early to indict them on Yeldon. The Jags haven't given him nearly a fair shake, IMO, but time will tell if that's actually just because he's bad... we'll see over this season, where they seem committed to giving him a bit more work.

Derrick Henry = can't get off the bench and beat out Demarco Murray. Just another system RB. LMAO @ anybody who actually thought he was better than Ezekiel Elliot.

You're right that he's not better than Elliot, but wrong for indicting him for not beating Murray out... EVERYONE wrote Murray off way too soon. Chip Kelly wasted him last year, and everyone assumed it meant Murray was done. Murray has actually been realllllly good through 4 games. No shame that Henry hasn't unseated him yet. But once Murray wears down, we'll see how good Henry is. In Tennessee's offense, I'm betting Henry will rack up the yards.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Really dude? Michigan has one of the absolute worst records when it comes to educating their football players. At least Saban has elevated academics for the football program in his tenure at Bama. You should do your homework before posting.

As far as Saban and recruits? Maybe you should "educate" yourself before flapping your gums. Every high profile recruit at Bama will tell you the same thing. Saban offers no guarantee of playing time, regardless of hype or stars. He only offers the opportunity to compete. His comments about Barnett backed that up. If you aren't willing to compete, then go somewhere else.

Nothing wrong if you don't like Saban. But at least be somewhat accurate in what you post. Otherwise, it's just hatin'... and haters gonna hate. Enjoy.

cant imagine anyone educating worse than Bama except for maybe LSU.

I could care less what you say about Saban. Not like you actually have real info more than the typical Bama fan. I live in Ala and read the stories of the famous grey shirts and promises that never pan out. Like many of the delusional Bama fans, you think the program is great for the players and it isnt. It is a football factory that only cares about wins. Most the players have zero future if they arent NFL material. Granted, Saban puts a lot in the pros but I guarantee every single player on that team was told in his living room in front of his mother that he was going to be the next NFL player, etc etc. Yet most dont even sniff the NFL. They go on to work for the city picking up garbage and Saban spews his crap to yet the next clueless family.

After all, all that matters is wins right? Character means zero if you have the rings right?

 

[BobbyMac]

cant imagine anyone educating worse than Bama except for maybe LSU.

I could care less what you say about Saban. Not like you actually have real info more than the typical Bama fan. I live in Ala and read the stories of the famous grey shirts and promises that never pan out. Like many of the delusional Bama fans, you think the program is great for the players and it isnt. It is a football factory that only cares about wins. Most the players have zero future if they arent NFL material. Granted, Saban puts a lot in the pros but I guarantee every single player on that team was told in his living room in front of his mother that he was going to be the next NFL player, etc etc. Yet most dont even sniff the NFL. They go on to work for the city picking up garbage and Saban spews his crap to yet the next clueless family.

After all, all that matters is wins right? Character means zero if you have the rings right?

Not so fast my friend. Here's the facts.

GSR Home Page

I looked up 10 random teams and Bama's GSR and FGR are higher than all 10. Those 10:

Ohio St
Arizona
Texas Tech
Arkansas
Florida
Iowa
Georgia
Michigan
North Carolina
Texas

The last 3 are Public Ivy's.

The player who gets a degree from Bama is better off than when he got there. Fact. It's also a fact that a higher % of players get their degrees at Bama than some other, more highly thought of schools. Bama may be on the wrong side of 100 when it comes to USN&WR rankings but they are doing a better job than most it appears.

 

[jays]

Really dude? Michigan has one of the absolute worst records when it comes to educating their football players. At least Saban has elevated academics for the football program in his tenure at Bama. You should do your homework before posting.

As far as Saban and recruits? Maybe you should "educate" yourself before flapping your gums. Every high profile recruit at Bama will tell you the same thing. Saban offers no guarantee of playing time, regardless of hype or stars. He only offers the opportunity to compete. His comments about Barnett backed that up. If you aren't willing to compete, then go somewhere else.

Nothing wrong if you don't like Saban. But at least be somewhat accurate in what you post. Otherwise, it's just hatin'... and haters gonna hate. Enjoy.

Let's be honest, Alabama is basically a glorified community college compared to institutions like ND and UM. A Bama fan talking about academics makes you sound ridiculous.

As for Saban, he couldn't win in the B1G or in the NFL. In fact, the only place he has won is in the SEC, where he can oversign every year and have Bama boosters line the pockets of every 5 star player he wants. I don't really care if you call that hating, that's just a fact, a quick google search can unearth that.

Oh, and the gall Saban had to blast Blake Barnett on the way out the door when he cuts 10+ players a year from his roster was pure hypocrisy. I have zero respect for Nick Saban.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Not so fast my friend. Here's the facts.

GSR Home Page

I looked up 10 random teams and Bama's GSR and FGR are higher than all 10. Those 10:

Ohio St
Arizona
Texas Tech
Arkansas
Florida
Iowa
Georgia
Michigan
North Carolina
Texas

The last 3 are Public Ivy's.

The player who gets a degree from Bama is better off than when he got there. Fact. It's also a fact that a higher % of players get their degrees at Bama than some other, more highly thought of schools. Bama may be on the wrong side of 100 when it comes to USN&WR rankings but they are doing a better job than most it appears.

Oh, public. Public! I thought you said pubic!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Let's be honest, Alabama is basically a glorified community college compared to institutions like ND and UM. A Bama fan talking about academics makes you sound ridiculous.

As for Saban, he couldn't win in the B1G or in the NFL. In fact, the only place he has won is in the SEC, where he can oversign every year and have Bama boosters line the pockets of every 5 star player he wants. I don't really care if you call that hating, that's just a fact, a quick google search can unearth that.

Oh, and the gall Saban had to blast Blake Barnett on the way out the door when he cuts 10+ players a year from his roster was pure hypocrisy. I have zero respect for Nick Saban.

What the fuck are you talking about?

It isn't about whether you are hating or not; you just are a decent guy that doesn't know what the hell you are talking about.

Saban took over a very bad University of Toledo program and immediately (Mid-American Conference - 1990) went 9–2 overall, 7–1 in the conference (Tied for 1st.) In my opinion this was close to a coaching miracle. Because though he left after a year, the program was really overhauled, which helped his successor, Gary Pinknel.

 

[jays]

What the fuck are you talking about?

It isn't about whether you are hating or not; you just are a decent guy that doesn't know what the hell you are talking about.

Saban took over a very bad University of Toledo program and immediately (Mid-American Conference - 1990) went 9–2 overall, 7–1 in the conference (Tied for 1st.) In my opinion this was close to a coaching miracle. Because though he left after a year, the program was really overhauled, which helped his successor, Gary Pinknel.

Oh really?

Saban's record at MSU:
6-5-1
6-6
7-5
6-6
9-2

Miami:
9-7
6-10

LSU:
8-4
10-3
8-5
13-1
9-3

Don't really give a crap what he did for one year at a MAC program.

 

[Irish Man3]

Couple thoughts on todays posting:

Funny how TH is calling out Bama for producing "busts" in the NFL. Yeldon and Henry are pretty young to be called busts. Ingram is a bust? Since when? Aside from that, what running backs has Jimbo produced that killed it in the NFL? Gerhart? What about Michigan lately? Makes sense to call out Bama for producing NFL backs while Jimbo and Michigan produce.........what?

Saban is only successful in what has been the toughest conference in college football for a decade? Scrub.... For the record, every team in the SEC oversigns and pays players and cuts players and whatever other shit you want to hang Saban for. And the school in that conference that doesn't........Vandy. Enough said.

Saban doesn't promise any recruit playing time. He doesn't have to. Judging Saban based on Barnett? Seriously Clark?

 

[OCIrish]

Lacy, Yeldon, and Mark H have been very good RBs in the league. Too early to tell on Henry as he hasn't been in the league long enough. But being behind D. Murray isn't anything to be ashamed about.

Rent A Trent has been a bust. No excuses on that one.

Oh yeah....

**** michigan

I concur........Fukk Michigan!!!!

 

[Still Irish.ca]

this kid and Leatherwood will both be at BAMA. Just a visit, IMO.

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Last post actually about JW.

 

[Luckylucci]

So this is going to go over real well around here, lol. Per BGI, the Michigan Rivals writer spoke with Wills after his OV to UM. Wills told him that he has dropped the Irish, as we haven't communicated with him since some point during the summer.

 

[BeauBenken]

So this is going to go over real well around here, lol. Per BGI, the Michigan Rivals writer spoke with Wills after his OV to UM. Wills told him that he has dropped the Irish, as we haven't communicated with him since some point during the summer.

Banks is really the only dude we're going after it seems...if that.

 

[Luckylucci]

Banks is really the only dude we're going after it seems...if that.

Sarrell is still OVing for Stanford and apparently we are still trying to get Trey Smith on campus. However, neither seem likely right now. It sounds like the plan is to identify new players over the bye week. At that point, we'll have a better idea of where we stand with all of the above. My expectation is we are going to have to hammer the pavement to finish this class. Doesn't mean they won't be able to find talent, I just hope it's not a half ass finish.

 

[jspags10pg]

I know I'll get grilled for this since I'm an ND fan on an ND board but Harbaugh is a hell of a coach. I love the way that dude coaches, the way his teams play, the scheme and toughness he implements. I don't necessarily agree with the way he manages his student-athletes and some of his antics but as far as the way a team plays on the field...that dude is great.

All that aside, it's a huge myth that Michigan was a dumpster fire when he got there. Hoke recruited very well. VERY well for the quality of coach that he was there. And when he got canned and Jim came in Jim was left with a very nice roster that was not void of talent in the least bit. I haven't looked up the class rankings and the star rankings but I can say with 99% certainty that the Michigan roster in 2015 was way better than anything he worked with while at Stanford. The only reason Michigan could have even been considered a "dumpster fire" is because Hoke was a terrible coach. He had more than enough talent stockpiled for even an average coach to win 9 or 10 games in 2015. I had very little doubt that a coach as good as Harbaugh would turn that program around pretty quickly.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of these guys like Wills and Harris were really giving them a serious look. Why not? Harbaugh is no worse than all the top coaches who skirt the rules. The last 4 coaches to win a Natty are Saban, Urban, Jimbo, and Chizik/Malzahn...all of them are notorious for bending/breaking the rules just like Jim has been doing. He's no different than those guys and unfortunately they're all getting away with it and making that dirty style of managing a program be the best way to win titles. Don't know if anyone has noticed but recruits like teams that win titles.