'16 IL ATH Julian Love (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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Total hackjob.

How do you win the votes and have superior stats, yet still end up not winning?
 
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Total hackjob.

How do you win the votes and have superior stats, yet still end up not winning?

The only thing I can think of is a SEC bias. No disrespect to Baker, but Love earned that award. Now the award seems trivial.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> CB Julian Love makes the Walter Camp All-America first team. This is the first of the five big ones that count toward consensus and unanimous All-America honors (AP, FWAA, AFCA & Sporting News are the others). <a href="https://t.co/5pyLtSXZtn">pic.twitter.com/5pyLtSXZtn</a></p>— Eric Hansen (@EHansenNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/EHansenNDI/status/1070862108164833281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> CB Julian Love falls short of the Thorpe Award, losing to Georgia's DeAndre Baker. Love had more tackles (61-37), TFLs (3-2), pass breakups (15-9) and TDs (1-0) than Baker.</p>— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarterKarels/status/1070836309273518081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Those Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee, UMASS and Georgia Tech passing attacks are formidable - not to mention the SEC slate known for such amazing QB play. I mean LSU scorched UGA for 36 points - 5 FGs and 3 TDs for eight total scoring drives is embarrassing against their inept offense. Granted they did it mostly on the ground but maybe Baker should have come up in run support and made more than 2 solo and 2 assisted tackles - 2 PBU against LSU, bravo. Big INTs vs Middle Tennessee and So Car though - big time plays there. 1 TFL and FF against Middle Tennessee too - I mean drop that game and he has virtually no negative play stats.

Nice consolation prize for Baker, Julian will take his work to CFP.
 

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A new Notre Dame tradition - being robbed.

Ed Oliver over Q for Outland.
Baker over Love for Thorpe.
 

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The three finalists are submitted to a national panel of over 50 sports writers, sportscasters, former players and coaches who vote to determine the Paycom Jim Thorpe Award winner.

Not exactly a the most sound process
 

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Aren't lower numbers a good thing for a corner? Doesn't it usually mean other teams aren't throwing the ball in your direction?
 

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the argument for baker is that he was so good he wasnt targeted much. the list of SEC Wr's he shut down is impressive tbf
 

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the argument for baker is that he was so good he wasnt targeted much. the list of SEC Wr's he shut down is impressive tbf

I'd like to see number of targets game by game for all of the top CBs. This is appalling, Love had the better stats in every category except INTs which was 2-1. He was much better in every other category.

Crazy shit.
 

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the argument for baker is that he was so good he wasnt targeted much. the list of SEC Wr's he shut down is impressive tbf

UGA didn't play one team that was top 25 passing though in the reg season. They played two in the top 50 (Mizz and SC). So of course UGA won't get passed on as much. UGA did decent vs Tua in the CC, but Hurts carved them up.....

ND played 1 top 25, plus 6 more in the top 50.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🐐 <a href="https://twitter.com/julianlove27?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@julianlove27</a> has been named an AP First Team All-American.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/uNDefeated?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#uNDefeated</a> <a href="https://t.co/N4sHhbT9gm">pic.twitter.com/N4sHhbT9gm</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1072187307946639362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🐐 <a href="https://twitter.com/julianlove27?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@julianlove27</a> has been named an AP First Team All-American.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/uNDefeated?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#uNDefeated</a> <a href="https://t.co/N4sHhbT9gm">pic.twitter.com/N4sHhbT9gm</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1072187307946639362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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How many more till he's consensus AA?
 

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How many more till he's consensus AA?

From Wikipedia:
The National Collegiate Athletic Association currently recognizes College Football All-America Teams selected by the Associated Press, American Football Coaches Association, Football Writers Association of America, Sporting News, and the Walter Camp Football Foundation (WCFF) to determine consensus All-Americans.[7]
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">👌 <a href="https://twitter.com/julianlove27?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@julianlove27</a> is 3-for-3 in All-American voting after being named to <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFWAA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFWAA</a> All-American Team.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> ☘️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/uNDefeated?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#uNDefeated</a> <a href="https://t.co/Dq2iUm8pPZ">pic.twitter.com/Dq2iUm8pPZ</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1072266767727239169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">👌 <a href="https://twitter.com/julianlove27?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@julianlove27</a> is 3-for-3 in All-American voting after being named to <a href="https://twitter.com/TheFWAA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheFWAA</a> All-American Team.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> ☘️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/uNDefeated?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#uNDefeated</a> <a href="https://t.co/Dq2iUm8pPZ">pic.twitter.com/Dq2iUm8pPZ</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/1072266767727239169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So that makes him a consensus, right?
 

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Yup! First since Shane Walton at corner. Congrats to Julian... from an under-recruited guy lacking "elite physical traits" to consensus All-American. Wow.
What a stud...And what a pleasure it has been to watch him play the past 3 seasons.

If I remember correctly, it was never publicized, but didn't tOSU come after Julian very hard the last month or so before signing day?
 

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What a stud...And what a pleasure it has been to watch him play the past 3 seasons.

If I remember correctly, it was never publicized, but didn't tOSU come after Julian very hard the last month or so before signing day?


Yes they did, everyone on the Midwest went after him hard. There was a lot of polite “thanks but no thanks” given out by JLove. We’ve got a picture of UM at Naz to prove it. Julian never cared about the star implications or announcing his offers after he committed but I promise they didn’t stop. After Julian got screwed out of the UA game he was really done with it all. One quick funny story for you guys is when Stanford visited and told Julian’s HC that he wasn’t a Stanford kid. The HC was furious and in hindsight it was utterly stupid both on and off the field. Julian was always going to end up at ND if they offered but Stanford would have been exciting for him and his family. Oh well, the HC will never bring that up with future Naz kids and try to inject personal feelings into kids recruitments but I’m petty like that so it’s already been brought up on multiple occasions with the McCarthy’s.
 
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