'15 FL ATH Dexter Williams (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[BabyIrish]

Nobody would confuse Theo or CJ as top RB's. You're kidding yourself.

Im not slighting them, but they were not premier CFB RB's during their college careers.

Great Irish guys, but I"d say we didn't get half of what we could've outta them during their time here

Todd McShay and many other experts were talking about Riddick being our X Factor leading up to the Alabama game. He was absolutely seen as a top back that year.

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a> Ashton White and Dexter Williams sentenced to probation.</p>— Shaun Gallagher (@ShaunGalWNDU) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaunGalWNDU/status/801070057082277888">November 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[zelezo vlk]

Dang

 

[koonja]

Lol is this relating to the weed charge from before the season started?

What another epic failure by ND to take this long. Unbelievably how inept the entire program is. They literally played the entire season besides 1 game. Literally an epic failure.

 

[Luckylucci]

Lol is this relating to the weed charge from before the season started?

What another epic failure by ND to take this long. Unbelievably how inept the entire program is. They literally played the entire season besides 1 game. Literally an epic failure.

What? How would this be an epic failure? If anything wouldn't it be a positive, for those that want ND to play like the big boys, that it didn't impact their playing time?

 

[koonja]

What? How would this be an epic failure? If anything wouldn't it be a positive, for those that want ND to play like the big boys, that it didn't impact their playing time?

It took a season to figure out what to do with a weed charge.

You're telling me, if we were 11-1 right now and Kizer just got suspended for a weed charge from August, while being able to play the entire season up to now, that'd be a positive? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. This should have been decided in 2 weeks. A pot charge is not difficult.

How embarrassing if we actually were relevant this year, if this happened to a key player right before the playoffs. Weed charge from the summer has decision: Kizer now suspended against Michigan.

 

[Luckylucci]

It took a season to figure out what to do with a weed charge.

You're telling me, if we were 11-1 right now and Kizer just got suspended for a weed charge from August, while being able to play the entire season up to now, that'd be a positive? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. This should have been decided in 2 weeks. A pot charge is not difficult.

This isn't even new news dude, (not appropriate but do a better job). This is stemming from the police charges. We've known that they were going to serve probation since Nov. 1st.

Notre Dame players may avoid jail, criminal records in marijuana case | Public Safety | southbendtribune.com

 

[zelezo vlk]

So this is Hamilton County and not ResLife?

 

[koonja]

This isn't even new news dude, (not appropriate but do a better job). This is stemming from the police charges. We've known that they were going to serve probation since Nov. 1st.

Notre Dame players may avoid jail, criminal records in marijuana case | Public Safety | southbendtribune.com

I thought it was 'suspension'. AKA, school decided they now sit out for the rest of the season. I read it wrong - so that's my fault. Now you can see why I thought what you said was so dumb. Sorry dude.

 

[Luckylucci]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame football players Ashton White and Dexter Williams entering a Fulton Co. Courthouse. <a href="https://t.co/P3MMLpgsuC">pic.twitter.com/P3MMLpgsuC</a></p>— Shaun Gallagher (@ShaunGalWNDU) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaunGalWNDU/status/801059143515865088">November 22, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Luckylucci]

I thought it was 'suspension'. AKA, school decided they now sit out for the rest of the season. I read it wrong - so that's my fault. Now you can see why I thought what you said was so dumb. Sorry dude.

Turns out the only dumb one is this thread is the guy who flashes and insults folks before even knowing the hell is going on. Some consider that ignorance.

 

[koonja]

Turns out the only dumb one is this thread is the guy who flashes and insults folks before even knowing the hell is going on. Some consider that ignorance.

Def. Again, sorry I misinterpreted the title.

 

[GBdomer]

****Dexter Williams

Lots of buzz and confidence in Juice this year. I love this kid and his confidence and attitude. Dude has a lot of what his nickname is. Him and Adams can coexist and needs to have at least 125+ carries. I think he has awesome speed and as crazy as that run against cuse was it was damn explosive.

 

[Luckylucci]

****Dexter Williams

Lots of buzz and confidence in Juice this year. I love this kid and his confidence and attitude. Dude has a lot of what his nickname is. Him and Adams can coexist and needs to have at least 125+ carries. I think he has awesome speed and as crazy as that run against cuse was it was damn explosive.

I like Adams but they fall in love with him too much. Juice needs a decent amount of work on Saturdays. I agree, he's an explosive player and just needs regular touches. At least 10/game, like you mentioned.

 

[Blaise]

I think Juice could really become the breakout star this year.. I love the way he runs the ball. Reminds me a little of Julius Jones

 

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[Southside Sully]

Adams is behind him giving him some motivation. I Like this.

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[IrishLion]

I will create a shrine in Chip Long's name if we see a regular dose of TWO GODDAMN BACKS IN THE BACKFIELD.

Josh and Dex in the backfield, either a threat to run.... ooooohhhhhh, and our QB got wheels, too.

If we don't see at least two triple options per game out of shotgun, I'm gonna write a strongly-worded letter to Notre Dame.

 

[IrishLax]

I will create a shrine in Chip Long's name if we see a regular dose of TWO GODDAMN BACKS IN THE BACKFIELD.

Josh and Dex in the backfield, either a threat to run.... ooooohhhhhh, and our QB got wheels, too.

If we don't see at least two triple options per game out of shotgun, I'm gonna write a strongly-worded letter to Notre Dame.

We are going to absolutely shred people on the ground with this OL + RBs + Wimbush. Wimbush is freaking fast... he's legitimately faster than the majority of our WRs... I don't know how much they'll run him, but when they do he'll run away from people. The offense is going to look like Mariota's Oregon but with less tempo and more emphasis on TE. It's going to be a joy to watch.

 

[IrishLion]

We are going to absolutely shred people on the ground with this OL + RBs + Wimbush. Wimbush is freaking fast... he's legitimately faster than the majority of our WRs... I don't know how much they'll run him, but when they do he'll run away from people. The offense is going to look like Mariota's Oregon but with less tempo and more emphasis on TE. It's going to be a joy to watch.

There is literally no reason that they shouldn't regularly line up with Dex and Josh in the backfield at the same time.

WR is thin, you're loaded at TE, you've got depth at RB behind the top two, and you've got a QB that can turn on the afterburners on any fake/counter/read/zone.

Even if they don't want to run Wimbush a lot, which makes sense because there's no depth behind him yet, you at least need to put two backs out there to maximize the opportunities when he does get them.

So many reasons to use both guys at the same time. That can only mean they won't ever do it.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

There is literally no reason that they shouldn't regularly line up with Dex and Josh in the backfield at the same time.

WR is thin, you're loaded at TE, you've got depth at RB behind the top two, and you've got a QB that can turn on the afterburners on any fake/counter/read/zone.

Even if they don't want to run Wimbush a lot, which makes sense because there's no depth behind him yet, you at least need to put two backs out there to maximize the opportunities when he does get them.

So many reasons to use both guys at the same time. That can only mean they won't ever do it.

I can name a few reasons we shouldn't regularly line up in 2 back sets: Chase Claypool, Stepherson, ESB, Alize, Smythe and Wright. (possibly CJ Sanders)

As you said, we are loaded at TE and WR and you want to maximize the field. Putting two good players within 5 yards of each other so the defense can fixate instead of worrying about the 3 WRs or TEs bookended on our OL likely isn't the best use of talent.

An occasional play, sure. But I believe it makes more sense to keep them in regular rotation. Either split reps in groups, ie - every 5th play, swap em out. Or by series and do continual evaluation and ride the hot hand, errr, hot legs until they need a breather.

If we can feed them 10-15 reps each/game, they'll have plenty of opportunities to shine, along with the rest of our offensive talent.

 

[IrishLion]

I can name a few reasons we shouldn't regularly line up in 2 back sets: Chase Claypool, Stepherson, ESB, Alize, Smythe and Wright. (possibly CJ Sanders)

As you said, we are loaded at TE and WR and you want to maximize the field. Putting two good players within 5 yards of each other so the defense can fixate instead of worrying about the 3 WRs or TEs bookended on our OL likely isn't the best use of talent.

An occasional play, sure. But I believe it makes more sense to keep them in regular rotation. Either split reps in groups, ie - every 5th play, swap em out. Or by series and do continual evaluation and ride the hot hand, errr, hot legs until they need a breather.

If we can feed them 10-15 reps each/game, they'll have plenty of opportunities to shine, along with the rest of our offensive talent.

I didn't mean "regularly" at the expense of our WR's getting reps, I meant "regularly" in terms of "maybe 5 times per game, more if it's working... just anything more than 'never' which is what we had before."

And I meant the opposite of "loaded" at WR. We've got two good ones (EQ, Stepherson), three guys that could break out and/or are serviceable but will be underutilized (Claypool, Finke, Sanders), a tweener (Alize), and a bunch of unknown after that.

BK is already hesitant to involve more than 5 pass-catchers consistently during a season, which includes TE's, if he can help it. So, if we aren't going to utilize a bunch of true 4+WR formations, and the position is underutilized historically, why not spend a decent amount of time with 2 RB's in the backfield? Or at least line one up in the backfield and one in the slot/flexed, and use motion to keep the defense guessing.

5+ times per game and I'm happy.

 

[IrishLax]

I can name a few reasons we shouldn't regularly line up in 2 back sets: Chase Claypool, Stepherson, ESB, Alize, Smythe and Wright. (possibly CJ Sanders)

As you said, we are loaded at TE and WR and you want to maximize the field. Putting two good players within 5 yards of each other so the defense can fixate instead of worrying about the 3 WRs or TEs bookended on our OL likely isn't the best use of talent.

An occasional play, sure. But I believe it makes more sense to keep them in regular rotation. Either split reps in groups, ie - every 5th play, swap em out. Or by series and do continual evaluation and ride the hot hand, errr, hot legs until they need a breather.

If we can feed them 10-15 reps each/game, they'll have plenty of opportunities to shine, along with the rest of our offensive talent.

I think you'll see a lot of Claypool + ESB + Alize (detached in slot or inline) + inline TE( Smythe likely) with single back and Wimbush. If they go heavy, then Alize can beat his LB with regularity. If they go light, then Alize will dominate the DB in the running game.

It's going to be a lot of pick-your-poison for the defense where unless you're an Alabama or Ohio State you're going to struggle to matchup with our size unless you overcommit to stopping the run... and when you do that, we hit a huge play over the top or in the seam to a TE. The X factor is how many RPOs we use and how much we use Wimbush because with the zone-read you will not be able to stop it without putting minimum 8 guys in the box.

Only thing that can stop this team is injuries or scheme problems.

 

[stlnd01]

I can name a few reasons we shouldn't regularly line up in 2 back sets: Chase Claypool, Stepherson, ESB, Alize, Smythe and Wright. (possibly CJ Sanders)
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When you put it that way, our offense is fairly ridiculous (on paper anyway). You could line up four jumbo WRs, or two small burners and two bigs, or go with two quality RBs, all around maybe the most talented dual-threat QB we've had in how long?
Better score a lot of points this year.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I think you'll see a lot of Claypool + ESB + Alize (detached in slot or inline) + inline TE( Smythe likely) with single back and Wimbush. If they go heavy, then Alize can beat his LB with regularity. If they go light, then Alize will dominate the DB in the running game.

It's going to be a lot of pick-your-poison for the defense where unless you're an Alabama or Ohio State you're going to struggle to matchup with our size unless you overcommit to stopping the run... and when you do that, we hit a huge play over the top or in the seam to a TE. The X factor is how many RPOs we use and how much we use Wimbush because with the zone-read you will not be able to stop it without putting minimum 8 guys in the box.

Only thing that can stop this team is injuries or scheme problems.

This is why I want to see Stepherson regain the trust of the coaches and arrive in fall camp. I think his ability to get over the top of the defense will be the final critical element to this offense. ESB is a monster target who will likely repeat or add on to his numbers from last year. Alize is a match-up nightmare and may have an Eifert-like year or better.

Claypool appears poised to explode on the scene. Our smaller slot guys are good enough to provide YAC. All we need is that explosive element to kill defenses as they slowly drift down while the offensive line is wrecking fools.

I told myself to remain objective but the more I think about our talent on offense, the harder it is.

 

[IrishLion]

This is why I want to see Stepherson regain the trust of the coaches and arrive in fall camp. I think his ability to get over the top of the defense will be the final critical element to this offense. ESB is a monster target who will likely repeat or add on to his numbers from last year. Alize is a match-up nightmare and may have an Eifert-like year or better.

Claypool appears poised to explode on the scene. Our smaller slot guys are good enough to provide YAC. All we need is that explosive element to kill defenses as they slowly drift down while the offensive line is wrecking fools.

I told myself to remain objective but the more I think about our talent on offense, the harder it is.

You would think CJ and Finke will see increased effectiveness, because quick-twitch guys like that will excel in one-on-one, open-field situations in an offense that uses RPO.

Fake the read, hit Sanders in space in the seam, and watch him make the only defender between him and the endzone look silly in the open field.

 

[BobbyMac]

Google thinks you guys are crazy. There is literally a banner ad just below this box from Zenni that has a picture of a pair of glasses that have rose colored frames.

 

[woolybug25]

As I've said many times, if you want to see ol 'Bug with a mental erection. Then Line up two TE's with with EQ on the perimeter. Then Dex and Adams in the backfield.

Play action all day, son.

 

[Luckylucci]

Wiltfong had a post the other day talking about, if it was him, what he would do. It'd be run Adams 20/game, Dexter/10+, and Wimbush 10/game.

I'd like to see 40-45 carries/game, which I believe last year we were at 36.5.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Wiltfong had a post the other day talking about, if it was him, what he would do. It'd be run Adams 20/game, Dexter/10+, and Wimbush 10/game.

I'd like to see 40-45 carries/game, which I believe last year we were at 36.5.

I would never run Wimbush 10/game. He's too valuable to plan that type of exposure. 3-5 times/game with a couple ad hoc runs when the plan breaks down. If we had someone with experience backing him up then potentially move those numbers up a bit.

And I'd adjust the RB numbers to start the season: Adams 15-20, Dexter 10-15. It should be a near even split until you know what you have.

I wish we could get a 3rd back some touches. TJ Jr seems too well-rounded to leave him on the sidelines. I suppose in an ideal world, we'd run Adams 15, Dex 10-15 and give TJ Jr 5ish to see what they are made of. Let the distribution slowly settle in based on production.