'15 CA WR Equanimeous St. Brown (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[Irish YJ]

Shoulder surgery is good news? If he's having surgery, the degree of the sprain is enough that a lot of tissue was torn and ligaments stretched.

 

[Cackalacky]

Good to hear. No injury is good news, but I'd like him to be healthy for winter workouts and spring. He should be a huge player in 2016.

Uhmm you are aware of ND's history of shoulder injuries right????? Hopefully it is not the type of injury that sidelined:

Barratti
Colinsworth
Farley
Fox

I am sure there are more... I just blacked out typing those out

 

[Irish YJ]

Uhmm you are aware of ND's history of shoulder injuries right????? Hopefully it is not the type of injury that sidelined:

Barratti
Colinsworth
Farley
Fox

I am sure there are more... I just blacked out typing those out

LOL... Yup, at least he's not on D though. Might be a bit easier for a WR to get, and stay healthy.

 

[IrishLion]

"He had shoulder surgery on his elbow..." - Lou Holtz

 

[NDdomer2]

Uhmm you are aware of ND's history of shoulder injuries right????? Hopefully it is not the type of injury that sidelined:

Barratti
Colinsworth
Farley
Fox

I am sure there are more... I just blacked out typing those out

All Defensive guys, and hopefully ESB is done on special teams where he has to use his shoulder more. 6 weeks is quick recovery spend offseason getting stronger and faster

 

[IrishLax]

His dad allegedly went on a radio show in Texas and ripped ND's S&C program and nutritionists. Said he thinks it's what leads to late season injuries and fatigue we see every year.

Mind you, we all talked last year about how he expressed these thoughts privately and was pissed about ESB's shoulder injury and weight loss.

Interested to hear koon's take on this one.

 

[Rizzophil]

His dad allegedly went on a radio show in Texas and ripped ND's S&C program and nutritionists. Said he thinks it's what leads to late season injuries and fatigue we see every year.

Mind you, we all talked last year about how he expressed these thoughts privately and was pissed about ESB's shoulder injury and weight loss.

Interested to hear koon's take on this one.

With your connections, respectfully, do you know how our program is vastly different from Stanford? They seem to play hard nose football and don't have as many injuries?

Forgive me you already posted but I just saw the differences in academic load. Thanks

 

[Meatloaf]

His dad allegedly went on a radio show in Texas and ripped ND's S&C program and nutritionists. Said he thinks it's what leads to late season injuries and fatigue we see every year.

Mind you, we all talked last year about how he expressed these thoughts privately and was pissed about ESB's shoulder injury and weight loss.

Interested to hear koon's take on this one.

Getting the feeling we're not landing ASB either.

I don't like the fact that he went outside the program to discuss this but he has a point; our S&C program is not where it should be.

 

[pkt77242]

With your connections, respectfully, do you know how our program is vastly different from Stanford? They seem to play hard nose football and don't have as many injuries?

Forgive me you already posted but I just saw the differences in academic load. Thanks

Designer steroids.

 

[ozzman]

With your connections, respectfully, do you know how our program is vastly different from Stanford? They seem to play hard nose football and don't have as many injuries?

Ever heard of Balco?

 

[Irish YJ]

Shoe fits

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

His dad allegedly went on a radio show in Texas and ripped ND's S&C program and nutritionists. Said he thinks it's what leads to late season injuries and fatigue we see every year.

Mind you, we all talked last year about how he expressed these thoughts privately and was pissed about ESB's shoulder injury and weight loss.

Interested to hear koon's take on this one.

Bad news, sometimes you get loud, opinionated parents who can harm the program. It's a damn shame he's so aggressively targeting his son's school. If changes need to happen, I hope his words get the ball rolling.

Silver linings and all of that.

 

[ACamp1900]

I would be curious to see if ND avoids major injuries this year (haha) and finishes strong etc and ESB plays and plays well... would the family suddenly change their tune and shift back towards ND... or has that boat sailed??

 

[NDty9]

Once this EQ starts BALLIN OUT this year (imo he will!), I think all this talk will quiet down rather quickly.

 

[IrishLax]

With your connections, respectfully, do you know how our program is vastly different from Stanford? They seem to play hard nose football and don't have as many injuries?

Forgive me you already posted but I just saw the differences in academic load. Thanks

I mean... there have been lots of rumors from lots of people of them being "innovative" since Harbaugh got to town. Read into that however you want.

 

[tussin]

His dad allegedly went on a radio show in Texas and ripped ND's S&C program and nutritionists. Said he thinks it's what leads to late season injuries and fatigue we see every year.

Mind you, we all talked last year about how he expressed these thoughts privately and was pissed about ESB's shoulder injury and weight loss.

Interested to hear koon's take on this one.

Serious question. Was it delivered as a inappropriate "hot take" or a reasoned hypothesis? Isn't that a somewhat legitimate argument based on our history of injuries and year-end fatigue? I do realize that the ND academic workload and travel requirements make the discussion a bit more nuanced.

 

[BobbyMac]

With your connections, respectfully, do you know how our program is vastly different from Stanford? They seem to play hard nose football and don't have as many injuries?

I've heard from a source in Palo Alto that a couple of alums have developed a program that can actually search on the internet for topics like "best foods to eat to gain muscle" and "weight lifting techniques to prevent injury". I can't remember their names right now, I'll Google it and post them if I find anything.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

I mean... there have been lots of rumors from lots of people of them being "innovative" since Harbaugh got to town. Read into that however you want.

Dude they use like, cooled water, in their palms, or something...

Ok it's roids

 

[IrishLax]

Serious question. Was it delivered as a inappropriate "hot take" or a reasoned hypothesis? Isn't that a somewhat legitimate argument based on our history of injuries and year-end fatigue? I do realize that the ND academic workload and travel requirements make the discussion a bit more nuanced.

I haven't heard the audio, so I don't know. Also why I said "allegedly" because I didn't hear it first hand.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Ugh...

 

[BobbyMac]

If ND has a rash of injuries this year. I'll finally admit it has 0% to do with bad luck. There is something causing it within the program.

The one thing I don't think it is is travel or school workload.

If travel was an issue, smaller schools would be decimated because they travel on a bus for much longer periods than ND flies. ND charters out 5 minutes from campus and lands within a half hour of probably every team they play.

Do Academic All-Americans get hurt at the same rate ND players do? They most likely study as hard as ND players. Of the injured ND players, are they in more strenuous majors on average than players who don't get injured?

My guess is, ND doesn't have their average ND injury bug this year.

 

[NDVirginia19]

If only we had this athlete only eating facility... where the athletes could get as much to eat as they wanted with higher nutrient quality food.... Maybe some sort of... table for athletes who are training

 

[Domina Nostra]

What are we even talking about? ESB got injured in football, and that means our training is insufficient? Are all Buffalo or Central Michigan's players injured all the time? Or does everyone have superior trainers to us?

Monster WR Laquon Treadwell blew up his leg? Not getting enough milk. Malik had his ankle break and Russell broke his tibia. Is that really training or nutrition? Are we really arguing that their bones are not dense enough?

Drew Tranquil's little brother, who was in high school, had same injury Drew had.

Folston had a similar injury to Gurley.

Procise sprained his ankle. He's a 220 lb. sprinter. That happens ALL THE TIME.

Jarron Jones got rolled up on when he didn't expect anything coming and wasn't engaged or defending himself. Similarly, Jaylon was hit in exactly the wrong way, kind of from behind, after the play was basically over.

 

[IrishLax]

What are we even talking about?

Drew Tranquil's little brother, who was in high school, had same injury Drew had.

Folston had lesser injuries than Lattimore or Gurley who are both specimens from SEC programs.

Malik had his ankle break and Russell broke his tibia. Is that really training or nutrition? Are we really arguing that their bones are not dense enough?

Procise sprained his ankle. That happens ALL THE TIME.

Jarron Jones got rolled up on when he didn't expect anything coming and wasn't engaged or defending himself. Similarly, Jaylon was hit in exactly the wrong way, kind of from behind, after the play was basically over.

I think the concern is not over freak injuries (like Teddy Bridgewater for the Vikings this past week) but water & tear and soft tissue types of injuries. There are a lot of guys who seem to have trouble keeping their bodies right during the season. Not sure if that actually falls at Longo's feet or someone else's.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

If only we had this athlete only eating facility... where the athletes could get as much to eat as they wanted with higher nutrient quality food.... Maybe some sort of... table for athletes who are training

I got it, we'll call it "workout spread". Athletes can come in, eat from the spread after particularly grueling workouts. I think we're onto something. Most people don't know this but food is important for u and ur musulz

 

[Domina Nostra]

I think the concern is not over freak injuries (like Teddy Bridgewater for the Vikings this past week) but water & tear and soft tissue types of injuries. There are a lot of guys who seem to have trouble keeping their bodies right during the season. Not sure if that actually falls at Longo's feet or someone else's.

Or noone's.... Maybe there isn't really an issue. Or maybe comparing people to the monsters at Alabama (who were everyone's first choice because of their superior physical attributes) is misguided. Who knows?

I understand generally, but the injuries we experienced are so varied and so common among all football players in general (Gurley, Chubb, and Marshall all had significant injuries for UGA) that it doesn't make sense to me to no expect to be an outlier in one direction or another every few years. Every team has bad streaks of injuries at points.

It's like when you go to a casino. Most of the time you win a little, then lose a little. But sometimes you have streaks where you win a lot and streaks where you lose a lot. Every once in a while, someone will go on an epic win or loss streak. That is all to be expected.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I got it, we'll call it "workout spread". Athletes can come in, eat from the spread after particularly grueling workouts. I think we're onto something. Most people don't know this but food is important for u and ur musulz

Maybe they can call it the "Notre Dame Table For Athletes Who Don't Eat Good And Wanna Stay Healthy and Other Training Stuff Too"

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[ACamp1900]

Maybe they can call it the "Notre Dame Table For Athletes Who Don't Eat Good And Wanna Stay Healthy and Other Training Stuff Too"

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[NDdomer2]

Prefacing with I have no idea of EQSB's practice habits/attitude at the current moment.

Having said that, trying to perform at your best, give it your all everyday, keep the same positive attitude, etc. has to be more difficult if you know one of your parents isn't happy with xyz at your chosen football program.

If that individual were to not have the kind of year they wanted early, easier to quit? to go through the motions? transfer?

Hopefully this is overblown on both sides and its just a concerned parent who is/was famous (and has other sons who can play) and has avenues to speak publicly.

I am very excited to finally see EQ play as a significant weapon in the offense for the first time. We will find out how legit he is.

 

[dang227]

It does seem like ND has a disproportionate number of soft tissue injuries but I don't follow other teams like I do the Irish. I can't believe their S&C program would be that much different from any other P5 program. I know Kelly is loyal to his assistants but he isnt going to stand for someone hurting the program.