'14 OH DT Daniel Cage (Notre Dame Signee)

[koonja]

I meant pm's period. Why would I be referring to twitter only? Nice backtrack.


Again... trying to act like hot sh!t. Nobody is buying it, Koon. You're like an ant's d!ck away from being Gruble.

If I wanted to be cool, I'd post info before others did. You're quoting a post of mine from June, when Cage hadn't decided he was walking away. He decided that in July.

Again - I don't post my info unless it's to disagree with bad info. Your info is bad, so I'm letting IE know there are no big injuries to worry about at this time. Time will tell the truth.

No need to get worked up.

 

[woolybug25]

If I wanted to be cool, I'd post info before others did. You're quoting a post of mine from June, when Cage hadn't decided he was walking away. He decided that in July.

Again - I don't post my info unless it's to disagree with bad info. Your info is bad, so I'm letting IE know there are no big injuries to worry about at this time. Time will tell the truth.

No need to get worked up.

Spoken like a true authority on Notre Dame. Thank you for blessing us with all of your great knowledge.

weirdo.

 

[koonja]

Spoken like a true authority on Notre Dame. Thank you for blessing us with all of your great knowledge.

weirdo.

Ok

 

[goldandblue]

I don't usually butt into internet cat fights but thought I might could provide some useful tools for you two.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I don't know why but I always feel better after a good Wooly/Koon spat. It just makes me feel more centered, more happy.

Cheers to everyone!

 

[RyCo1983]

 

[Irish#1]

Hey guys, I'm a nobody, but we're all just here because we love ND. No need to fight. Maybe there are injuries and maybe there aren't, we'll see as we go.

Obviously a newbie by the number of posts. Don't worry about the kids fighting. They do it all the time. It's their way of saying "I love you" to each other.

 

[Blaise]

I don't know why but I always feel better after a good Wooly/Koon spat. It just makes me feel more centered, more happy.

Cheers to everyone!

The world is right

 

[BobbyMac]

Just read a 7pm Pacific text from my SB buddy that says Cage will meet with ND staff tomorrow to discuss/finalize his retirement from football. Don't know if that's his source or one of the services he subscribes to. I'm on my phone at Portillo's so I'm not surfing for info.

Next man in.

 

[Luckylucci]

This doesn't really change my expectations at all, because I didn't expect much from him. At best, I expected what we got last year which was inconsistent play while expecting more. A healthy and bought in Cage, would be a different story but he just never developed into a consistent player.

On another subject, his weight problem is somewhat perplexing to me. He wasn't a sloppy/overweight prospect out of HS. He got to college and just blew up and was never able to control it.

 

[Crazy Balki]

If Cage is retiring, then that 2014 class has lost 4 of 7 DL recruits. Leaves only Jay Hayes, Trumbetti and Mokwuah. We've lost Blankenship, Hill and Williams on top of possibly losing Cage.

I get that DL recruiting has to be better, but Kelly has to catch a break here. He can't possibly develop DL if they keep leaving mid-career.

 

[Crazy Balki]

This doesn't really change my expectations at all, because I didn't expect much from him. At best, I expected what we got last year which was inconsistent play while expecting more. A healthy and bought in Cage, would be a different story but he just never developed into a consistent player.

On another subject, his weight problem is somewhat perplexing to me. He wasn't a sloppy/overweight prospect out of HS. He got to college and just blew up and was never able to control it.

Well, the whole "S&C sucked" spiel is a good route, but in addition, Cage was never healthy at the end of the year, thus makes it difficult for him to get into the weight room consistently and develop physically. Instead, he's having to recover and rehab, all the while his body is packing on fat.

 

[BeauBenken]

Hey guys, I'm a nobody, but we're all just here because we love ND. No need to fight. Maybe there are injuries and maybe there aren't, we'll see as we go.

Howell66 here has only posted thrice since he joined in 2012. What freaking legend. Y'all take heed...because when the Howell speaks, people listen.

 

[arrowryan]

Was he supposed to be a starter? Or is our starting interior d-line Tillery/Bonner?

I honestly think we will be just fine and this doesn't really impact my expectations at all. MDT/Taylor/Hinish/Myron will probably have a bigger impact anyway.

 

[Wingman Ray]

If Cage is retiring, then that 2014 class has lost 4 of 7 DL recruits. Leaves only Jay Hayes, Trumbetti and Mokwuah. We've lost Blankenship, Hill and Williams on top of possibly losing Cage.

I get that DL recruiting has to be better, but Kelly has to catch a break here. He can't possibly develop DL if they keep leaving mid-career.

For the life of me, I truly wonder why ND has such a hard time recruiting and developing consistent DL talent. Sure, we get studs here and there but rarely more than 1 at a time. I think the biggest was when we had Tuitt and that flake from FL play together for one year. Not saying ND hasnt had its share of studs sprinkled in but can you think of one major (if ND is still considered major) team that makes more of a living off of 3 star DL or 4 stars that really never do much than ND?

Frustrating because DL makes the defense. You can have the best LBs and DBs in the game but if your DL cant control the OL or gain pressure, the D is going to be mediocre at best

 

[IrishLion]

Was he supposed to be a starter? Or is our starting interior d-line Tillery/Bonner?

I honestly think we will be just fine and this doesn't really impact my expectations at all. MDT/Taylor/Hinish/Myron will probably have a bigger impact anyway.

Lol bless your positive vibes.

We will be *okay* on numbers, but that's assuming Taylor gets healthy and the freshmen are capable of providing quality reps.

Cage didn't project as a starter, but his role would have been huge in helping with early downs.

Tillery is a headcase that needs to dial it in, and Bonner is an unknown. That is not good news, regardless of how you feel about Elko.

 

[arrowryan]

Lol bless your positive vibes.

We will be *okay* on numbers, but that's assuming Taylor gets healthy and the freshmen are capable of providing quality reps.

Cage didn't project as a starter, but his role would have been huge in helping with early downs.

Tillery is a headcase that needs to dial it in, and Bonner is an unknown. That is not good news, regardless of how you feel about Elko.

I don't think one specific player is going to do it all; it's going to take a village. All I'm asking for from the interior is to hold up at the point of attack against the run and a pass rush from Tillery. As long as they can be just decent against the run and let the linebackers and d-ends to clean everything else up, we'll be just fine.

You're points are fair but I just think MDT, Tillery, Bonner, and the freshmen are capable.

 

[IrishLion]

I don't think one specific player is going to do it all; it's going to take a village. All I'm asking for from the interior is to hold up at the point of attack against the run and a pass rush from Tillery. As long as they can be just decent against the run and let the linebackers and d-ends to clean everything else up, we'll be just fine.

You're points are fair but I just think MDT, Tillery, Bonner, and the freshmen are capable.

I hope you're right. If they are just decent enough to not get blown off the ball every snap, Elko can scheme around the lack of talent, and use the talented LB's to mask a lot of issues.

Hayes - Tillery - Bonner - Hayes --- On the surface, that looks like a DL that could potentially be stout against the run... but I have my concerns about Tillery and the younger Hayes being counted on to hold up against the run consistently. That's where Cage and any other proven option would be huge, but we don't have those.

 

[Legacy93]

Sounds like Cage plans on taking a medical redshirt this season. Better than retiring completely I guess.

 

[BobbyMac]

Sounds like Cage plans on taking a medical redshirt this season. Better than retiring completely I guess.

No that's definitely BAD news. He needs to get on the medical and open up a spot. He won't be needed next year, his need was this year in the 2 deep rotation giving time for the 3 freshmen to get up to speed. Plus next year you have more coming and Jay Ade should be the most game ready, Day 1 DT ND's had in a generation, even better than Sheldon Day

They can process him between now and then so i guess I won't worry for now.

 

[greyhammer90]

Jay Ade.

Sorry, who?

 

[dublinirish]

Sorry, who?

Jayson Ademilola

 

[Big23Head]

No that's definitely BAD news. He needs to get on the medical and open up a spot. He won't be needed next year, his need was this year in the 2 deep rotation giving time for the 3 freshmen to get up to speed. Plus next year you have more coming and Jay Ade should be the most game ready, Day 1 DT ND's had in a generation, even better than Sheldon Day

They can process him between now and then so i guess I won't worry for now.

I think that's it. The medical allows him to stay on scholarship while in school and he/the staff can assess his progress for next year or decide to move on

 

[BobbyMac]

Scout/Sampson Freebie.

Medical issues may shelve Cage - Notre Dame - Scout

According to the family of Daniel Cage, the senior defensive tackle plans to take a medical red shirt this season after multiple concussions and a summer knee surgery.

Daniel Cage's football career has reached a crossroads at Notre Dame.
According to his mother, Bionne Cage, the senior defensive tackle plans to take a medical red shirt this season in the hopes of recovering from multiple concussions and summer knee surgery that has hurt his off-season training. If that recovery doesn't happen or the lineman chooses to retire from football, Cage could go on medical scholarship.
"He loves football," Bionne said. "First and foremost, his health has to be OK. If he can get that straightened out, he can continue playing."
Less than a month ago, Brian Kelly told the South Bend Tribune that Cage was expected to make a full recovery in time for training camp following knee surgery.
But according to his mother, Cage has suffered headaches since last season's concussion sidelined him in November. Cage has suffered at least three concussions during his Irish career, in addition to knee and ankle injuries that have limited his training. Cage has still managed to play in 30 games the past three seasons. He started four times last season but struggled to return to form during spring practice.
Already down Elijah Taylor following a spring practice foot surgery, Notre Dame's defense now faces some difficult choices along its defensive front.
When camp opens on Aug. 1, Notre Dame may have just eight healthy defensive tackles, with Jerry Tillery the only proven commodity. Jonathan Bonner represents the only other defensive tackle with actual game experience, having played in all 12 games last season and making one start.
The remaining group consists of Pete Mokwuah, Micah Dew-Treadway, Brandon Tiassum, Myron Tagovailoa, Kurt Hinish and Darnell Ewell. Five of them have never taken a college snap, with only Mokwuah having logged even end-of-game minutes.
As for Cage, it's conceivable he returns to the program a year from now if he can gain medical clearance. But that's a secondary goal compared to simply returning to functional health.
"He wants to make sure it's safe for him," Bionne said. "We don't want to put him in an environment where it's risking a long term effect for a short term goal. Right now his head aches, his knee is healing. The process has been overwhelming and he wants to make sure he's OK."

 

[Big23Head]

Scout/Sampson Freebie.

Medical issues may shelve Cage - Notre Dame - Scout

Those lingering headaches and head issues are scary.

 

[BobbyMac]

I think that's it. The medical allows him to stay on scholarship while in school and he/the staff can assess his progress for next year or decide to move on

If he takes the Medical this year, it opens up the scholarship in the fall and he can't come back and play in college.

If he takes a red-shirt this year, he counts in the 85 and could come back next year and play or take the medical in '18... or he could grad transfer and play somewhere else if he red shirts this year..

My point is he's needed this year, not next year so if he's not playing this year, I hope he takes the Medical now and opens up the scholarship to Reagan, Schilling or whoever is in line next.

 

[stlnd01]

Sticking on scholarship to leave his options open is fine. But from that interview with his mom, his concussion issues sound bad enough he should maybe just retire. One more season of college ball just isn't worth messing with that, IMO.

 

[greyhammer90]

If he still has headaches from the last one he needs to be done. It's just a game and life is a lot longer. You got more for playing it than 99.9% of people ever do. It's time to cash in.

 

[Luckylucci]

Early on I remember hearing that Daniel had problems sleeping. I don't recall if it was ever elaborated on but it was before the concussions, and I wonder if that is still an issue. If it was, then I'm sure that can't be helping this situation.

 

[Luckylucci]

I hope you're right. If they are just decent enough to not get blown off the ball every snap, Elko can scheme around the lack of talent, and use the talented LB's to mask a lot of issues.
Hayes - Tillery - Bonner - Hayes --- On the surface, that looks like a DL that could potentially be stout against the run... but I have my concerns about Tillery and the younger Hayes being counted on to hold up against the run consistently. That's where Cage and any other proven option would be huge, but we don't have those.

Personally, this is what I expect, and I expected it before this news. It wasn't like Elko was walking out super beefy and studly DT's at Wake. He is very aggressive in the run game with stunts, slants, and blitzes. He's also very aggressive with his S's in the run game. Now is that because he had to be, or likes to be, I don't know. But it has served him well.