'14 NJ DE Andrew Trumbetti (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

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Sherm I get that part but I also understand Gilmore doesn't really have anything to work with. But he also hasn't made anyone better. Failed experiment



You get that Notre Dame is cursed you are referring to right?

I just don't understand why we would not use our most athletic DL more, Daelin Hayes. Maybe the staff wanted to be careful with him since he hadn't played football in like 2 years?


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saw a tweet last night (from sampson?) that said Trumbetti had just 1 sack in 33 games at ND and less than 5 QB pressures..depressing stuff
 

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Complete disappointment. When I saw this kid coming out of high school I thought to myself he reminds me of a better Garret Sickles. And I loved Garret Sickles, never understood why he went to that dump of a school the year the sanctions came down. I don't know what's wrong with Trumbetti though.

What I don't understand is Gilmore has been successful developing defensive linemen throughout his career. He killed it at UNC. I just don't understand what happened here. It's like Acamp always says...Notre Dame is cursed.


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It may have had something to do with BVG and the way he distributed time to teach.

You get that Notre Dame is cursed you are referring to right?

I just don't understand why we would not use our most athletic DL more, Daelin Hayes. Maybe the staff wanted to be careful with him since he hadn't played football in like 2 years?


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JMO, but I think you nailed it.
 

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Man I swear I remember Trumbetti looking really impressive in limited time as a freshman. High motor strong kid who was getting a great push. What the hell happened?


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Man I swear I remember Trumbetti looking really impressive in limited time as a freshman. High motor strong kid who was getting a great push. What the hell happened?


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always felt the kid had maxed out his frame as a HS senior. Kid just does not have broad shoulders or long arms.
Since he was a HS senior he has only gained 5 lb's in weight, that is insane for a CFB Defensive Linemen. Bigger tackles just swallow him up and he can't keep their hands off him
 
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Trumbetti should never have been rated that high in the 1sr place. So really he's just your typical ND 3-star.

indeed. he was labelled as the second coming of JJ Watt by some folks. He should really have been a career backup/grad transfer but due to depth issues he saw more of the field than he should have
 

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indeed. he was labelled as the second coming of JJ Watt by some folks. He should really have been a career backup/grad transfer but due to depth issues he saw more of the field than he should have
Yep. He showed flashes, no doubt, buy never did anything to suggest he could do it every down. Plus BVG never put him in a position to succeed anyway.
 

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Trumbetti clicks with new staff

The reinvention of Notre Dame’s defense appears to have gone hand in hand with Andrew Trumbetti’s own rebuild.

Andrew Trumbetti doesn’t want to talk much about last year. Or the year before that. Or the year before that.

Talking about last year would mean talking about playing for Brian VanGorder, and Trumbetti would rather talk about playing for Mike Elko. Because he’s going to not only play more for Notre Dame’s new defensive coordinator, he’s going to play better for Notre Dame’s new defensive coordinator and he’s going to enjoy it too.

That much Trumbetti believes.

“I’m just really hard on myself,” Trumbetti said. “You don’t really need to yell at me when I make a mistake. I’ll fix it myself. If I get someone yelling at me, I just start overthinking it. It makes it worse. Coach (Mike) Elston knows that, coach Elko knows that. I fix my mistakes and that’s it.”

Trumbetti has repaired a lot this off-season.

He’s up to 265 pounds and says he feels just as quick as when he was 10 pounds lighter. He’s playing both defensive end positions and appears comfortable at each based off last weekend’s open practice for the media. And he’s down to his final season in South Bend, which comes with its own motivational angle.

“Honestly, it’s my senior year, I have nothing to lose at this point,” Trumbetti said. “I have everything to prove, just playing. That’s it.”

That’s been a challenge for Trumbetti in past seasons and VanGorder didn’t help it. Trumbetti endured an illness that wiped out one off-season of weight gains a couple years ago. He tried to play strong side end under weight. He admitted he battled a crisis of confidence.

Trumbetti needed somebody at Notre Dame to believe in him before he would be all-in on himself. It appears that’s happened with the Elston-Elko combination.

“(Elko) gets on me when I need it,” Trumbetti said. “If I make a mental error, it’s not like he’s gonna make the biggest deal in the world about it.”

Is this just a case of the new staff connecting with Trumbetti in a way the old staff didn’t?

“Yeah,” Trumbetti said. “I don’t really want to speak too much on that, but yeah.”

Trumbetti laughed as he finished that quote, a nod that the change of voice in the defensive meeting room should be obvious to anyone covering the team, never mind those actually playing on it. And to that end Brian Kelly backed up his reinvented defensive end last weekend after one of his best practices.

Trumbetti not only showed speed against Notre Dame’s second-team offensive line at Culver but beating Liam Eichenberg, he showed some toughness too in the rodeo drill by throwing Tommy Kraemer out of the hole.

“He looks like the guy that we recruited out of high school,” Kelly said. “He was a dominating player in high school, had an edge about him. We did a poor job of developing him until this year. He is at that point where he’s gonna make an impact and it’s gonna be fun to watch.”

Notre Dame needs it within a defensive line that was short on stats last season and lost its two most productive players in Isaac Rochell and Jarron Jones. The Irish have a clear top five in Daelin Hayes, Jay Hayes, Jonathan Bonner, Jerry Tillery and Trumbetti, but that group posted zero sacks last season and four tackles for loss total.

On Wednesday, Kelly outlined the next tier of defensive linemen as Khalid Kareem, Micah Dew-Treadway, Kurt Hinish and Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa. Kareem barely played last season and the other three have never seen the field.

“I feel like a lot of younger the guys … they haven’t been exposed to other situations,” Trumbetti said. “Now they’ve really seen older guys pushing and working hard. They’re being held to that standard.

“We’ve had a lot of immaturity in the past. Guys are stepping up. We don’t have that many immature guys. We don’t really have any, honestly. Here and there. It’s not like it was in years past.”
 

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The stuff about not having immature players is music to my ears.

As good as the Tuitt, Nix, Lynch line could have and should have been, they were all held back by a little (or a lot) of immaturity. KLM stood in contrast and his leadership was the key to their success in 2012.

If we get these kids to work hard and play hard for each other, we are going to be MUCH improved. The talent is there, even if its a little below what we've had at some positions in the past.
 

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Was Gilmore a screamer? I never saw him as that kind of a guy? Also, would he be part of the problem with trumbetti? Or no? He always seemed really well liked.
 

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Was Gilmore a screamer? I never saw him as that kind of a guy? Also, would he be part of the problem with trumbetti? Or no? He always seemed really well liked.

It's hard to say but you sure get the sense that the negative vibes coming out of Van Gorder outweighed any positive ones from his position coaches.
 

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Also, it didn't make that story but I thought this from Trumbetti was interesting...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You hear it all in the preseason. But this from Andrew Trumbetti still feels new and interesting. <a href="https://t.co/qRYw1L0GoW">pic.twitter.com/qRYw1L0GoW</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/895358289491505153">August 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Trumbetti should never have been rated that high in the 1sr place. So really he's just your typical ND 3-star.

indeed. he was labelled as the second coming of JJ Watt by some folks. He should really have been a career backup/grad transfer but due to depth issues he saw more of the field than he should have

These will be fun to revisit in a few months.
 

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Also, it didn't make that story but I thought this from Trumbetti was interesting...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You hear it all in the preseason. But this from Andrew Trumbetti still feels new and interesting. <a href="https://t.co/qRYw1L0GoW">pic.twitter.com/qRYw1L0GoW</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/895358289491505153">August 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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i'll definitely be pleasantly surprized if Trumbetti can make an impact. For all his new found mental toughness, he can't grow his arms any longer.
 

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i'll definitely be pleasantly surprized if Trumbetti can make an impact. For all his new found mental toughness, he can't grow his arms any longer.

Ha. Ok, that must be it... his arms need to be two inches longer. lol
 
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Ha. Ok, that must be it... his arms need to be two inches longer. lol

Do you think every ND players is going to be an all-American this year? And all of our coaches will have statues by the bye week? Do we have a weakness in your eyes?
 

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indeed. he was labelled as the second coming of JJ Watt by some folks. He should really have been a career backup/grad transfer but due to depth issues he saw more of the field than he should have

Name anyone who claimed he was the second coming of JJ Watt. I'll guarantee you no one made that claim. BTW Watt was a two star recruit coming out of HS.
 

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I just have visions of JJ Watt in a golden helmet...please!

Its funny you say that because he mentions JJ on twiitter and thats exactly the picture that came to mind. He'll probably quickly become a Diaco favorite.

Name anyone who claimed he was the second coming of JJ Watt. I'll guarantee you no one made that claim. BTW Watt was a two star recruit coming out of HS.

Kelly said. “He was a dominating player in high school, had an edge about him.

that kind of seems like jj...dominating and has an edge to him...doesn't it? NOT saying he was the second coming but comparison wise it could have been very easy to see that
 

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Kelly said. “He was a dominating player in high school, had an edge about him.

that kind of seems like jj...dominating and has an edge to him...doesn't it? NOT saying he was the second coming but comparison wise it could have been very easy to see that

Except that JJ wasn't dominating coming out of HS. In fact he was a TE. I saw absolutely no similarities between the two players especially when JJ is a 6-6. 290 player. Andrew is built more like TJ Watt but not as good a football player. How anyone could have seen a comparison between Andrew and JJ is amazing to me.
 

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Except that JJ wasn't dominating coming out of HS. In fact he was a TE. I saw absolutely no similarities between the two players especially when JJ is a 6-6. 290 player. Andrew is built more like TJ Watt but not as good a football player. How anyone could have seen a comparison between Andrew and JJ is amazing to me.

i think what people were meaning is that jj is a high motor, athletic guy , TE in high school and is pretty quick....in watching trumbetti in high school he was a very high motor, fast for his size, played TE...i can see the comparison in terms of traits, not height/weight
 

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not to mention Andrew had two more stars coming out of high school, what were we doing recruiting him. Didnt we know JJ Watt was a two star player?!?!
 

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i think what people were meaning is that jj is a high motor, athletic guy , TE in high school and is pretty quick....in watching trumbetti in high school he was a very high motor, fast for his size, played TE...i can see the comparison in terms of traits, not height/weight

This is very true. He played fast and with a lot of intensity. He was also listed at 6'5", 250, so it seemed even more impressive.

However, I'm not sure that the people who were comparing him to JJ Watt were offering scouting reports. I think it was more being silly or wishful thinking.

There is no need to set out the reasons that some recruit is not really comparable to Barry Sanders or Jerry Rice.
 

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Do you think every ND players is going to be an all-American this year? And all of our coaches will have statues by the bye week? Do we have a weakness in your eyes?

Jesus, get over yourself. I've always liked Trumbetti and ate crow last season. I've also said repeatedly that there are players I don't think will be impactful. Like Fertitta, for instance. I've said a bunch of times I think our safeties are a concern and that we have concerning depth at certain position. Where were you then with all your "you're a homer" bullshit?
 
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