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Treated and released.
'13 DC ATH Devin Butler (Notre Dame Signed LOI)
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Did you see pictures of him? Or the description of events by non-police involved in the situation?
Or do you just swallow everything shoved down your throat?
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Does anyone find this very interesting that Butler could pick up a cop with a broken foot? No doubt a struggle happened but this seems like a gross exaggeration.
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I dont know, if he was drunk and on an adrenaline rush, a D1 football player picking up another human being seems very very reasonable.
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tackled to the ground is such a BS term, the cop could have fallen on his arse for all we know
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lol what an idiot.
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I'm offering another take.
When an ND kid gets in trouble...we jump to the defense and come up with every excuse and conspiracy theory we can.
When another team has issues? We bash and claim moral superiority. I'm guilty as well.
I could be wrong. Butler could've just been standing there, minding his own business, and the cop ran up and body slammed him because Butler was in the wrong place at the wrong time and that cop hates ND football players.
Or Butler could've been raging drunk, watching his girl fight, and took on the cops when they asked him to back up.
I think it's somewhere in the middle. I don't' believe for a min that Butler is innocent in this matter. Is he a felon? That's the question.
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He's well enough to go out partying and get involved with two chicks fighting....
The officer could be a small guy.
Who knows
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Except that isn't what people are saying but it does make a nice straw man. What people are saying is that Butler was pulling his girlfriend of the girl to break up the fight and was tackled by the police because they assumed that he was part of the fight.
ETA: I wonder if after being tackled he elbowed or hit the cop. It might be my first reaction if someone tackled me.
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It's all racism by the cops blah blah blah.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Devin Butler appeared in court for the first time today. Entered not guilty plea.</p>— VeronicaJean Seltzer (@VJS_WSBT) <a href="https://twitter.com/VJS_WSBT/status/768498552377049088">August 24, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Walked out of court in a walking boot......
He had foot surgery for a broken foot
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Sorry, should have quoted my previous post about him "lifting and throwing the cop" while having a broken foot. Not only did he have a broken foot he was still in a dang walking boot.
No details on case. Just the plea.
No details on case. Just the plea.
Update: Notre Dame football player Devin Butler enters not guilty plea | | southbendtribune.com
SBT 2 hrs ago
Other media reports are briefer.
No details on case. Just the plea.
Update: Notre Dame football player Devin Butler enters not guilty plea | | southbendtribune.com
SBT 2 hrs ago
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Other media reports are briefer.
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SOUTH BEND — The girlfriend of Notre Dame cornerback Devin Butler and the fiancée of another Irish player claim the accusations leveled against Butler are false and that he was not violent with police officers before he was arrested early Saturday outside the Linebacker bar.
“I was there that entire night," Haleigh Bailey, Butler's girlfriend, wrote in a message to The Tribune. "Reports say that everyone left the scene but I was still there and saw everything officers did to Devin.
"He was abused, and wrongly arrested. He never tackled an officer and he never intentionally hurt anyone. He had no reason to be tazed because he was never resisting arrest, and he was already on the ground complying when they tazed him.”
She also questioned the accusations of Butler's actions — including picking up and tackling and officer — when he is still recovering from a broken foot and using a walking boot.
A 6-foot-1, 200-pound senior, Butler was arrested shortly after midnight on Saturday morning. On Tuesday, St. Joseph County prosecutors charged him with felony counts of resisting law enforcement and battery of a police officer. Butler entered a plea of not guilty at his arraignment on Wednesday afternoon.
Police responded to the Linebacker bar, on South Bend Avenue, just after midnight on Saturday morning on a report of a fight between some patrons and bar security.
Bar security told police they already had broken up the fight and did not need police involvement, so officers went outside and saw two women fighting near the curb, police reported in court documents. The women are not identified in the documents.
Before police could separate them, Butler forcibly shoved one of the women by her head any body, "causing her to move approximately 3 to 4 feet," police claimed.
Selina Bell, the fiancée of Irish wide receiver Torii Hunter Jr., who as at the bar that night, said she was eyewitness to the altercation. She described Butler's involvement differently.
“I don’t know who they’re trying to reference him hitting or pushing, because he didn’t do that to anyone. But he was holding his girlfriend and protecting her," Bell said in a phone interview on Wednesday night. "He 100 percent never hit her, pulled her, pushed her, grabbed her forcefully at all.”
Bailey and Bell would not comment on what touched off the fight, or whether Bailey was one of the women involved in the alercation.
Police say they ordered Butler to step back, but he began cursing at the officers and approached them. Bailey also disputed that claim.
“Reports say that Devin did all of these aggressive things but in reality, he was grabbed by the police from behind and never told who was grabbing him or why they were grabbing him," Bailey wrote. "Devin felt he was doing the right thing but out of nowhere was arrested for simply stopping an argument. He felt he had no reason to be detained.”
When the officers tried to physically detain Butler, they claim in court documents, Butler pushed officer Aaron Knepper, picked him up and tackled him to the ground. A struggle ensued, during which Butler struck Knepper in the side and stomach several times, police say.
Knepper was taken to Memorial Hospital to be evaluated for minor injuries to his elbow, wrist, neck, back and arm, and was later released.
Again, Bailey and Bell’s accounts contradict the South Bend Police Department’s claim.
“Devin has been in a boot/cast and on crutches recovering for the past 8 weeks,” Bailey wrote. “He is in no condition to be lifting weights, working out, or doing any ‘tackling.’ I have not seen him run let alone walk on two feet since the day before his surgery in June. I can assure you he did NOT tackle a police officer but police officers tackled HIM."
“That 100 percent did not happen," Bell said of the accusation that Butler tackled Officer Knepper. "Devin didn’t even have the capability to pick someone up if he wanted to. He just got off of crutches the day before."
Butler was not expected to play until at least October after suffering the recurrence of a broken left foot in June. He appeared at his arraignment on Wednesday in a walking boot.
According to the South Bend Police Department, Butler “continued to swear at the officers and threaten them.” When other officers tried to pull Butler off Knepper, police say, Butler “grabbed onto Officer Knepper’s duty belt and physically ripped it off of him” before Knepper deployed a Taser to subdue Butler.
Bailey in her message asked: “How could the police officer proceed to taze Devin if Devin had ripped off his duty belt? The story doesn't add up and that's because these things didn't happen.”
She also wrote that Knepper "was extremely violent and excessively forceful with the way he treated Devin. It was disturbing to say the least.''
Bell, who claims she was sober at the time of the altercation, also said that Butler never ripped off Knepper's duty belt and did not resist arrest.
"Four cops had their knees in his back, and Haleigh was obviously very upset," Bell said. "She didn’t know why Devin was getting arrested or in this position. She was crying, so I grabbed her face and was telling her to look at me, because I didn’t want her to see what they were doing to him. They tased him. That’s when I got emotional."
Added Bell: “He couldn’t breathe, and I could hear him saying that. He was saying, ‘I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe!’ He was screaming that. That’s when I was getting really nervous. I don’t know why they felt the need to tase him. There were four cops on him. He had the broken foot. His face was in the cement."
Knepper has drawn attention in the past.
In March 2014, Knepper arrested 55-year-old Tom Stevens of South Bend and Stevens' 76-year-old mother on suspicion of resisting arrest and battery to a police officer after initially stopping Stevens for a traffic violation near his Sunnymede home.
Stevens was hospitalized for three days, and he and his mother claimed they did not strike Knepper, but that he was unnecessarily rough with them. Stevens later pleaded guilty to resisting arrest and had his other charges dropped.
Knepper was suspended without pay for an August 2012 incident in which he and two other officers pressured a 7-Eleven clerk to swallow a tablespoon of cinnamon and to eat 10 crackers in less than a minute. That clerk filed suit, claiming the officers humiliated him and violated his civil rights.
Earlier this month, a jury found that Knepper and the same two other officers behaved unconstitutionally when they went into a South Bend home without a warrant in July 2012. The officers used a Taser on a 17-year-old whom they had mistaken for the teen's older brother.
Despite the guilty verdict, the jury awarded damages of only $1. The city's internal investigation found the officers had illegally entered the home and used excessive force, but they were not suspended.
South Bend Police Chief Scott Scott Ruszkowski said he could not comment on the claims of Bailey and Bell because the incident is part of an active criminal investigation, as well as an internal police investigation, which is standard practice in use-of-force incidents. But he said any witnesses should come forward and speak with investigators.
On Sunday, Notre Dame head coach Brian Kelly indefinitely suspended Butler from the program. He is scheduled to appear in court again Sept. 1 for an initial hearing before Judge Jeffrey Sanford. The charges against Butler, both level 6 felonies, carry a penalty of up to 2½ years in prison if convicted.
Butler also will have to answer to Notre Dame's disciplinary arm.
“If what the cops are saying Devin did really happened, then that’s fine. He deserves everything that happened and he deserves to go to jail," Bell said. "But I thought that the law was ‘innocent until proven guilty,’ and there’s no proof of anything besides word of mouth."
Eyewitnesses dispute police account of Notre Dame CB Devin Butler's arrest | Notre Dame Insider Football | ndinsider.com
“I was there that entire night," Haleigh Bailey, Butler's girlfriend, wrote in a message to The Tribune. "Reports say that everyone left the scene but I was still there and saw everything officers did to Devin.
"He was abused, and wrongly arrested. He never tackled an officer and he never intentionally hurt anyone. He had no reason to be tazed because he was never resisting arrest, and he was already on the ground complying when they tazed him.”
She also questioned the accusations of Butler's actions — including picking up and tackling and officer — when he is still recovering from a broken foot and using a walking boot.
A 6-foot-1, 200-pound senior, Butler was arrested shortly after midnight on Saturday morning. On Tuesday, St. Joseph County prosecutors charged him with felony counts of resisting law enforcement and battery of a police officer. Butler entered a plea of not guilty at his arraignment on Wednesday afternoon.
Police responded to the Linebacker bar, on South Bend Avenue, just after midnight on Saturday morning on a report of a fight between some patrons and bar security.
Bar security told police they already had broken up the fight and did not need police involvement, so officers went outside and saw two women fighting near the curb, police reported in court documents. The women are not identified in the documents.
Before police could separate them, Butler forcibly shoved one of the women by her head any body, "causing her to move approximately 3 to 4 feet," police claimed.
Selina Bell, the fiancée of Irish wide receiver Torii Hunter Jr., who as at the bar that night, said she was eyewitness to the altercation. She described Butler's involvement differently.
“I don’t know who they’re trying to reference him hitting or pushing, because he didn’t do that to anyone. But he was holding his girlfriend and protecting her," Bell said in a phone interview on Wednesday night. "He 100 percent never hit her, pulled her, pushed her, grabbed her forcefully at all.”
Bailey and Bell would not comment on what touched off the fight, or whether Bailey was one of the women involved in the alercation.
Police say they ordered Butler to step back, but he began cursing at the officers and approached them. Bailey also disputed that claim.
“Reports say that Devin did all of these aggressive things but in reality, he was grabbed by the police from behind and never told who was grabbing him or why they were grabbing him," Bailey wrote. "Devin felt he was doing the right thing but out of nowhere was arrested for simply stopping an argument. He felt he had no reason to be detained.”
When the officers tried to physically detain Butler, they claim in court documents, Butler pushed officer Aaron Knepper, picked him up and tackled him to the ground. A struggle ensued, during which Butler struck Knepper in the side and stomach several times, police say.
Knepper was taken to Memorial Hospital to be evaluated for minor injuries to his elbow, wrist, neck, back and arm, and was later released.
Again, Bailey and Bell’s accounts contradict the South Bend Police Department’s claim.
“Devin has been in a boot/cast and on crutches recovering for the past 8 weeks,” Bailey wrote. “He is in no condition to be lifting weights, working out, or doing any ‘tackling.’ I have not seen him run let alone walk on two feet since the day before his surgery in June. I can assure you he did NOT tackle a police officer but police officers tackled HIM."
“That 100 percent did not happen," Bell said of the accusation that Butler tackled Officer Knepper. "Devin didn’t even have the capability to pick someone up if he wanted to. He just got off of crutches the day before."
Butler was not expected to play until at least October after suffering the recurrence of a broken left foot in June. He appeared at his arraignment on Wednesday in a walking boot.
According to the South Bend Police Department, Butler “continued to swear at the officers and threaten them.” When other officers tried to pull Butler off Knepper, police say, Butler “grabbed onto Officer Knepper’s duty belt and physically ripped it off of him” before Knepper deployed a Taser to subdue Butler.
Bailey in her message asked: “How could the police officer proceed to taze Devin if Devin had ripped off his duty belt? The story doesn't add up and that's because these things didn't happen.”
She also wrote that Knepper "was extremely violent and excessively forceful with the way he treated Devin. It was disturbing to say the least.''
Bell, who claims she was sober at the time of the altercation, also said that Butler never ripped off Knepper's duty belt and did not resist arrest.
"Four cops had their knees in his back, and Haleigh was obviously very upset," Bell said. "She didn’t know why Devin was getting arrested or in this position. She was crying, so I grabbed her face and was telling her to look at me, because I didn’t want her to see what they were doing to him. They tased him. That’s when I got emotional."
Added Bell: “He couldn’t breathe, and I could hear him saying that. He was saying, ‘I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe!’ He was screaming that. That’s when I was getting really nervous. I don’t know why they felt the need to tase him. There were four cops on him. He had the broken foot. His face was in the cement."
Knepper has drawn attention in the past.
In March 2014, Knepper arrested 55-year-old Tom Stevens of South Bend and Stevens' 76-year-old mother on suspicion of resisting arrest and battery to a police officer after initially stopping Stevens for a traffic violation near his Sunnymede home.
Stevens was hospitalized for three days, and he and his mother claimed they did not strike Knepper, but that he was unnecessarily rough with them. Stevens later pleaded guilty to resisting arrest and had his other charges dropped.
Knepper was suspended without pay for an August 2012 incident in which he and two other officers pressured a 7-Eleven clerk to swallow a tablespoon of cinnamon and to eat 10 crackers in less than a minute. That clerk filed suit, claiming the officers humiliated him and violated his civil rights.
Earlier this month, a jury found that Knepper and the same two other officers behaved unconstitutionally when they went into a South Bend home without a warrant in July 2012. The officers used a Taser on a 17-year-old whom they had mistaken for the teen's older brother.
Despite the guilty verdict, the jury awarded damages of only $1. The city's internal investigation found the officers had illegally entered the home and used excessive force, but they were not suspended.
South Bend Police Chief Scott Scott Ruszkowski said he could not comment on the claims of Bailey and Bell because the incident is part of an active criminal investigation, as well as an internal police investigation, which is standard practice in use-of-force incidents. But he said any witnesses should come forward and speak with investigators.
On Sunday, Notre Dame head coach Brian Kelly indefinitely suspended Butler from the program. He is scheduled to appear in court again Sept. 1 for an initial hearing before Judge Jeffrey Sanford. The charges against Butler, both level 6 felonies, carry a penalty of up to 2½ years in prison if convicted.
Butler also will have to answer to Notre Dame's disciplinary arm.
“If what the cops are saying Devin did really happened, then that’s fine. He deserves everything that happened and he deserves to go to jail," Bell said. "But I thought that the law was ‘innocent until proven guilty,’ and there’s no proof of anything besides word of mouth."
Eyewitnesses dispute police account of Notre Dame CB Devin Butler's arrest | Notre Dame Insider Football | ndinsider.com
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I'd like to hear from others...I don't put much stock into family members or significant others. Especially the girlfriend who was supposedly involved in the fight.
And why did the bar lie? They said they stopped the fight and didn't need cops...but it's obvious they didn't as the cops walked outside to a fight?
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Most bars enforce security while inside the establishment if and when an altercation breaks out. Once you are outside and you want to continue to be an ass hole, its back to green flag racing and most security will either watch or make sure that they do not get back into the place.
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different fights bro...
the one was between a patron and the bar security.
the fight the cops got involved with was originally between two women OUTSIDE the bar.
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SBPD not wear body cams?
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/rakesofmallow">@rakesofmallow</a> I was waiting for other shoe to drop when I saw Knepper involved. He beat my neighbor into a coma & faced no consequences.</p>— Chris Becker (@crsbecker) <a href="https://twitter.com/crsbecker/status/768863021347119106">August 25, 2016</a></blockquote>
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No, city resolution called for them two years ago. SBPD still hasn't started using them.
Mhmm.
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this person who tweeted that also happens to be a Film and TV studies professor at Notre Dame...so NOT like some person that has been involved w/ the police a lot
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Like we've been saying for awhile... the cops story just doesn't even pass the sniff test:
-They say everyone left the scene and that's why they didn't collect statements or do their job. This is an obvious lie, and it's not even debatable.
-Says he "ripped the belt off" someone... how does one even do that? They all buckle or clip.
-Picked him up and threw him... on a broken foot.
There are dozens of eye witnesses that will all testify to roughly the order of events that was described in the SBT article. I've yet to hear a single one back up what the liar cop put in his police report.
-They say everyone left the scene and that's why they didn't collect statements or do their job. This is an obvious lie, and it's not even debatable.
-Says he "ripped the belt off" someone... how does one even do that? They all buckle or clip.
-Picked him up and threw him... on a broken foot.
There are dozens of eye witnesses that will all testify to roughly the order of events that was described in the SBT article. I've yet to hear a single one back up what the liar cop put in his police report.
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^clown show. Like we've been saying for a week, you cannot trust jack shit about that cop's account. Breaking into houses without a warrant and tasering the wrong guy... beating a guy into a coma and filing a battery charge against him... abusing vulnerable minorities for his entertainment... how does he have a job?
Hope Butler goes to trial and sues.
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Ahhh...I missed that. Thanks
I remember hearing about this on the news but I didn't knoe Knepper was the officer for this too. Knepper beat the shit out of this guy.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/129/...-bend-police-officer-aaron-knepper-to-resign/
Edit: I think Lax and I are talking about the same story lol
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/129/...-bend-police-officer-aaron-knepper-to-resign/
Edit: I think Lax and I are talking about the same story lol
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