'13 CA DT Eddie Vanderdoes (UCLA)

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Kinda feels like the family have lost faith in the competence of the coaching staff here.

This is messy.
 
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I wish I could say we will be fine, but losing Vanderdoes hurts. The nose tackle is crucial in ND's defense, and Eddie was the only commit at this position since the 2010 class. Unless Kelly can somehow convince Nix to come back for his 5th year, our defense is going to have serious problems in 2014 and beyond.

I don't believe that Vanderdoes was being recruited as a NG, he was being recruited as a DE.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Brother of Placer HC. MT @<a href="https://twitter.com/smontoyamp">smontoyamp</a>: I have heard from sources that frustrations on both sides is what hold up is around Eddie Vanderdoes.</p>— Tyler James (@TJamesNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJamesNDI/status/336682314451001347">May 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Both sides? Reps for a realistic frustration that ND could have which would hold up Eddie. Reps for creative suggestions too

There are two things ND hates ... 1) people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and 2) the DUTCH. We've been waiting to screw this guy over ever since signing day, never mind his tremendous talent and our serious need at his position.

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Its a 2 edged sword here.

1> You going to force a kid who doesn't want to be at ND, to be here? Become a cancer and wreck locker room cohesiveness? Remember we recently lost a couple of our best leaders and being a leader is a tough job to fill.

2> Let him go and transfer to sit out his year somewhere else and set a bad precedent? Lose a scholarship spot that ND could have used one someone who wanted to come here..

Tough call.
 

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From Aaron Cochrans Twitter...

From Aaron Cochrans Twitter...

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"Don't speak ill about eddie in any way. He's doing what's right for himself. No one has the authority to judge him."



:-/
 

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Its a 2 edged sword here.

1> You going to force a kid who doesn't want to be at ND, to be here? Become a cancer and wreck locker room cohesiveness? Remember we recently lost a couple of our best leaders and being a leader is a tough job to fill.

2> Let him go and transfer to sit out his year somewhere else and set a bad precedent? Lose a scholarship spot that ND could have used one someone who wanted to come here..

Tough call.

I think it's premature to say he doesn't want to be at ND. No one really knows anything right now.
 

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i just wish all the social media bashing would stop it is making this a very bad situation.
 

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People seem to forget Louis Nix almost left ND on a couple of occasions wanting to return to Florida. But he stuck it out and glad he did so.
 
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"Don't speak ill about eddie in any way. He's doing what's right for himself. No one has the authority to judge him."



:-/

I declare myself eligible to judge him if he re-negs on the binding contract that he signed. Who the hell is this nut telling me and others otherwise.??? I also declare that this twitter dork can eat a steaming pile of pigeon crap. There...I've said my peace. GOOD NIGHT CLEVELAND!!!!
 

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I declare myself eligible to judge him if he re-negs on the binding contract that he signed. Who the hell is this nut telling me and others otherwise.??? I also declare that this twitter dork can eat a steaming pile of pigeon crap. There...I've said my peace. GOOD NIGHT CLEVELAND!!!!

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I declare myself eligible to judge him if he re-negs on the binding contract that he signed. Who the hell is this nut telling me and others otherwise.??? I also declare that this twitter dork can eat a steaming pile of pigeon crap. There...I've said my peace. GOOD NIGHT CLEVELAND!!!!


offensive tackle headed to Cal from near where EV is from.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>Brother of Placer HC. MT @<a href="https://twitter.com/smonoyamp</a>: I have heard from sources that frustrations on both sides is what hold up is around Eddie Vanderdoes.</p>— Tyler James (@TJamesNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/TJamesNDI/status/336682314451001347">May 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Both sides? Reps for a realistic frustration that ND could have which would hold up Eddie. Reps for creative suggestions too

I heard he appeared to closer to 6'2 than 6'3 on our last coaches visit. Coaches weren't very happy so they had him stand back to back with Diaco for comparison . The results have not been verified yet and the Vanderdoes family had grown tired waiting for confirmation on how tall Diaco is.
 

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I'd be pretty damn upset if its less than a month away from time to report and I didn't know if I would be approved yet
 

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If there's a problem with the staff (on ND's end), I wonder if they perhaps changed their tune as to where Eddie may play. Eddie seemed pretty adamant about wanting to play DE (or at least not not be a true NG). I wonder if the staff may have been telling him they were wanting him to be more of an interior DL?

Just speculation on my part.
 

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If there's a problem with the staff (on ND's end), I wonder if they perhaps changed their tune as to where Eddie may play. Eddie seemed pretty adamant about wanting to play DE (or at least not not be a true NG). I wonder if the staff may have been telling him they were wanting him to be more of an interior DL?

Just speculation on my part.

That kinda goes against the whole him losing 30 pounds to get down to 300lb thing though right?
 

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Its not academic and for Gods Sake stop blaming the coaching staff lol. You dont think that they have been doing everything in their power to get this all straightened out? This all of sudden didnt arise in the last week.
 

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If there's a problem with the staff (on ND's end), I wonder if they perhaps changed their tune as to where Eddie may play. Eddie seemed pretty adamant about wanting to play DE (or at least not not be a true NG). I wonder if the staff may have been telling him they were wanting him to be more of an interior DL?

Just speculation on my part.

I don't think this would be an issue with him having yet to take part in any type of practice. That type of thing would be sorted out in the fall.
 

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If there's a problem with the staff (on ND's end), I wonder if they perhaps changed their tune as to where Eddie may play. Eddie seemed pretty adamant about wanting to play DE (or at least not not be a true NG). I wonder if the staff may have been telling him they were wanting him to be more of an interior DL?

Just speculation on my part.

Can't imagine why they would do that, though. If you know the kid prefers End to Tackle, even if the depth chart makes it clear that his best opportunity for early playing time is inside, you just let him come in and see for himself in camp. There's nothing to be gained by trying to tell the kid what's what before he even steps on campus.
 

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EV was going to play inside and outside. Its not a secret that ND moves their Lineman around. Hence why they recruit a certain type of kid. A kid like Nix is just a bonus, but NDs defense will be successful with or without a Nix in it. I mean they were successful with Cwynar in there. You do your job, success will come.
 

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Can't imagine why they would do that, though. If you know the kid prefers End to Tackle, even if the depth chart makes it clear that his best opportunity for early playing time is inside, you just let him come in and see for himself in camp. There's nothing to be gained by trying to tell the kid what's what before he even steps on campus.

Yeah, like I said, I was just speculating.

If there's friction (from both sides) between him and the staff...something caused it.
 

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Its not academic and for Gods Sake stop blaming the coaching staff lol. You dont think that they have been doing everything in their power to get this all straightened out? This all of sudden didnt arise in the last week.
I heard that he is leaving because he didn't think that the Facebook picture logo thing that the Turning Point made was cool enough.
 

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Its not academic and for Gods stop blaming the coaching staff lol. You dont think that they have been doing everything in their power to get this all straightened out? This all of sudden didnt arise in the last week.

academic as far as gpa, test scores, course requirements. academic can mean many of things.

this Mitch max mash or whatever the eff the twitter account above states what he is hearing is an issue. i would qualify that under "academic" but mad max could be an idiot.

just didn't know what you meant by academic.
 
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