'12 IA WR Amara Darboh (Michigan Verbal)

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247 > Scout > Rivals > ESPN.

I used to say that when Scout is the outlier, one can safely discard its rating. I'm more inclined to say that about ESPN here.
 

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Clearly ESPN is aware of where he is rated by the other services and is consciously rating him roughly 50 spots lower, so I have to believe that they have a reason for that. Who knows if its a good reason, but if they were just lazy you'd think they'd move him up 30-40 spots just so their rating was more in line with the others and raised less eyebrows. They must be confident in their evaluation.
 

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247 > Scout > Rivals > ESPN.

I used to say that when Scout is the outlier, one can safely discard its rating. I'm more inclined to say that about ESPN here.

how about we just outly the service that has our guys rated the lowest...that outta make mostly everyone on here happy.
 

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Lmao. Somebody is a hater on ND. They made that a bit clear.

I still don't get how people act like yelling at a player is an atrocity. I think the thing that made it worse for Kelly is how red his face gets while he yells. It makes everything look 1000x worse.

Sometimes you just got to lite a fire under their bum.
 

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I really like this part:

In a way, it’s a quirky twist to a nice, up-from-nowhere story. A young man who flees his African homeland and becomes one of the top high school football players in the country. One of the high-profile college coaches recruiting him acts as if the worst atrocity ever committed is a turnover in the red zone.
Who knows? Maybe in Kelly’s world, it is.

Like, are you serious? No offense, but when I'm out coaching, my mind isn't thinking about the starving children around the world. I'm focused on winning the football game.

Lest us forget about the Kelly Cares Foundation.
 

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Lmao. Somebody is a hater on ND. They made that a bit clear.

I still don't get how people act like yelling at a player is an atrocity. I think the thing that made it worse for Kelly is how red his face gets while he yells. It makes everything look 1000x worse.

Sometimes you just got to lite a fire under their bum.

Agree 100% Beau,

I bet if you ask Bama players what kind of "wonderful" things Nick Saban has said to them; there'd be a laundry list.

Only difference, Kelly's face gets tomato red, and he's always on camera...
 
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seriously that is one of the worst articles i have read in a while.
 

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I wonder if Jack will be asking NBC to please shy away from putting Kelly on TV when his face is like that. lol
 

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This is also the person in charge the day a student-videographer climbed a 50-foot tower in 50 mph winds to record a practice session and fell to his death. It's been a rough couple of years.

Really, Marc Hansen? I mean REALLY?! Nice attempt at cheaply conjuring up emotions by using an innocent young-adult's death to somehow hammer home the fact that Coach Kelly may or may not have gotten out of hand on Saturday. Assclown.

I wasn't really hating the article all that much until that particular paragraph.
 

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It's not ballerina, it's football for crying out loud. What a bunch of wussies.
 

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no morals and no class...yes kelly yelled at his players, but to compare that to the tragedy with declan sullivan last year is absolute chicken shi*, i want to play iowa every year from now on to embarrass them and go after this piece of garbage. he just made it personal.
 

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Folks,
I have two thoughts on this situation and article.
First thought, Brian Kelly had better learn from this past week that he has to control himself better as the leader of the team. Emotional outbursts happen, but they need to be controlled. He made himself the focal point of attacks from multiple news media, websites, catholic organizations and more. In the face of an ugly loss where ND made way too many mistakes, he has to pick up the pieces and be a better example to all. I do not want to hear this crap about kids need to be tough. I played ball for a screamer who was on the edge at times. Reality is that Kelly was too out of control when he is the discussion point by almost every media in North America.

Second thought, the guy in the article is obviously an Iowa guy. I like how he conveniently does not discuss that his team the Hawkeyes sent multiple kids to the hospital this past summer. He also does not mention how many of their players in the past year were spending their time hanging at a drug dealer house. So, which is worse, having your son getting his fanny chewed out or spending time hanging with the local dealers or some time in the hospital for being put thru dangerous workouts??

let's move on!!
 

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Folks,
I have two thoughts on this situation and article.
First thought, Brian Kelly had better learn from this past week that he has to control himself better as the leader of the team. Emotional outbursts happen, but they need to be controlled. He made himself the focal point of attacks from multiple news media, websites, catholic organizations and more. In the face of an ugly loss where ND made way too many mistakes, he has to pick up the pieces and be a better example to all. I do not want to hear this crap about kids need to be tough. I played ball for a screamer who was on the edge at times. Reality is that Kelly was too out of control when he is the discussion point by almost every media in North America.

Second thought, the guy in the article is obviously an Iowa guy. I like how he conveniently does not discuss that his team the Hawkeyes sent multiple kids to the hospital this past summer. He also does not mention how many of their players in the past year were spending their time hanging at a drug dealer house. So, which is worse, having your son getting his fanny chewed out or spending time hanging with the local dealers or some time in the hospital for being put thru dangerous workouts??

let's move on!!

you make good points, but i'm one that tends to hold grudges. so screw this guy.

yes coach kelly needs to be more careful, but like all coaches i'm sure he knows who he can go off on and who needs to be cuddled. i've said all along that this was not only a failure on the players' parts, but more importantly the coaches'. one time might be an accident but do it again and we have a problem that starts at the top and works its way down.
 

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Thank goodness this was in the Des Moines register, so nobody will ever read it.
 

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I went to school for several years in Ames [condolences appreciated] and I didn't read the Des Moines register either.


but on the more serious side: this A$$Hole DID take his views to the parents. THAT bothers me quite a bit. It's like livingroom negative trashing of an opponent for the benefit of your team. Low-ball.
 
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Iowa sucks.

They can't keep their top players in-state.

I hope Hansen contracts VD.
 

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He writes "Notre Dame was closing in on the South Florida end zone in the third quarter when a pass bounced off a Fighting Irish player’s hands and into the arms of the enemy. Kelly went off."

Hell, I thought that the ball bounced off the side of TJ's helmet, as though he wasn't even looking for the ball on a crossing route near the goal line. Was I just seeing things? Anyway, that's where/why I thought Kelly went off on TJ ... that he was "clueless" when the ball got to him.
 

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He writes "Notre Dame was closing in on the South Florida end zone in the third quarter when a pass bounced off a Fighting Irish player’s hands and into the arms of the enemy. Kelly went off."

Hell, I thought that the ball bounced off the side of TJ's helmet, as though he wasn't even looking for the ball on a crossing route near the goal line. Was I just seeing things? Anyway, that's where/why I thought Kelly went off on TJ ... that he was "clueless" when the ball got to him.

No, it definitely bounced off his helmet. I'm glad the writer actually watched the game before he wrote this article.
 

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but on the more serious side: this A$$Hole DID take his views to the parents. THAT bothers me quite a bit. It's like livingroom negative trashing of an opponent for the benefit of your team. Low-ball.

Completely agree, THIS is a major problem. Whether a journalist is objective or not, they should not have the ability or right to try and directly sway a recruit away from another University. This should fall under the same guidelines as Notre Dame fans directly addressing messages to recruits on message boards, and boosters and/or former players calling a recruit up and basically recruiting them to the University. I mean in all seriousness, how much more likely would we be to get a guy like Keith Marshall if we could have Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis, Reggie Brooks and the like calling his house and preaching ND to him any time they felt like it.

Think Amara would feel differently about ND if he spoke to Rocket, Tim Brown, Shark, and Golden Tate tonight about how awesome ND is?

Think we could bring in some Qb recruits if Joe Montana, Theisman, Rick Mirer, and Brady Quinn could recruit them for us?
Oh wait we run a spread and are looking for mobile QBs, lets have Tony Rice give him a call.

Kind of bogus if you ask me.
 
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If yelling and swearing will get you taken off Darboh's list then he won't have any colleges to choose from after the season.
 

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Completely agree, THIS is a major problem. Whether a journalist is objective or not, they should not have the ability or right to try and directly sway a recruit away from another University. This should fall under the same guidelines as Notre Dame fans directly addressing messages to recruits on message boards, and boosters and/or former players calling a recruit up and basically recruiting them to the University. I mean in all seriousness, how much more likely would we be to get a guy like Keith Marshall if we could have Ricky Waters, Jerome Bettis, Reggie Brooks and the like calling his house and preaching ND to him any time they felt like it.

I find the article to be very unprofessional, poorly developed, and under-researched.
 

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No, it definitely bounced off his helmet. I'm glad the writer actually watched the game before he wrote this article.

Thanks for validating, man! Damn, if it didn't go directly off his helmet like I thought, then I was gonna have to give up drinking beer during the game! Whew, scared me!
 

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imo Kelly's passion and fire is the only way things change on Saturdays. If we won the game there would not be any of this misdirected anger. I hope Kelly sticks to who he is and brings his proven winning ways to South Bend. Kelly cannot please every irish fan, especially the tea sipping blue hairs.
 

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If yelling and swearing will get you taken off Darboh's list then he won't have any colleges to choose from after the season.

Except for JoePa... who would collapse immediately from the strain if he raised his voice.
 
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