'12 IL DT Tommy Schutt (Ohio State Verbal)

[Riddickulous]

Brian Kelly is apparently pretty good at apologizing though....


Ammmiiiriteeeee?!?!

Schutt will be unable to resist the Diaco Charm.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Brian Kelly is apparently pretty good at apologizing though....


Ammmiiiriteeeee?!?!

He's had a lot of practice lately!!!1one lolololol

-_-

Tuitt and can't Day and Jones also rotoate inside?

With Springmann and Tuitt seeing reps at NT, the staff is apparently much more flexible with the body types they play at that position than many of us initially thought.

The more I think about it, the less likely this seems to me. Assuming we ask Cwynar and KLM back, we'll have 11 DL for 2012, which is close to the ideal depth; not to mention tons of talent.

I think the staff will slow play Schutt for a late pick-up if some of our higher profile targets don't pan out, but I doubt he'll be available by then. With the way he rushed the process initially, I wouldn't be surprised to see him run straight to MSU.

 

[tadman95]

If he can pull off the cut off jersey hanging over the gut look with an attitude, sign him up!!

I hope the best for him, I know it's been a tough road.

 

[NDdomer2]

Schutt also can provide the flexibility to switch over to offense.

 

[Grahambo]

I believe in the 'never can have enough pass rusher school of thought'. If a top DL like Schutt wants in, I take him. I understand the numbers game but I take a guy like Schutt to add to the team.

 

[woolybug25]

I believe in the never can have enough pass rusher school of though. If a top DL like Schutt wants in, I take him. I understand the numbers game but I take a guy like Schutt to add to the team.

I'm with ya man. I will never be able to understand passing on top 10 lineman on def or off. The funny thing is, we will add several 3* guys to this class while possibly passing on a top10 Dlineman. Crazy stuff.

 

[Grahambo]

I'm with ya man. I will never be able to understand passing on top 10 lineman on def or off. The funny thing is, we will add several 3* guys to this class while possibly passing on a top10 Dlineman. Crazy stuff.

Who knows when all is said and done. I certainly hope they take a second look. Just going off of the ESPN key traits, they list Day more of a pass rushing DT while Schutt is more of a plug, run stopper. I take any and all skills along the DL. I'm assuming it had to do with not taking up numbers.

 

[rtrn2glory]

i see michigan being a very real possibility...early pt possibility...more so than with us.

 

[IrishLax]

I'd take him. Assuming we bring back Cwynar, we'll still be 4-deep at NT in 2012 without Schutt, but 2013 could be scary if we skip on a NT completely this year. With Cwynar gone and Stockton unlikely to get a 5Y, we'd be down to just Nix, Springmann, and any true freshman we bring in next cycle.

Much could depend on how frequently the staff plans to use Tuitt at NT. Tuitt's flexibility likely makes Schutt a luxury.

Honestly, I don't know why people think that is a lock. KLM, Slaughter, Cave are the only locks right now. I could totally see grabbing a guy like Schutt in place of bringing back either Golic or Cwynar for a 5th year.

I am hoping now that it looks like we will have more room than anticipated at the inn that we will get back in the race. I'm assuming Michigan is going to do the same thing. At least we were "full".... Michigan told him no thanks with 0 DTs committed at the time.

 

[rtrn2glory]

holding out hope here, but i (like many others) was not thrilled with us passing him up from the get go. it'll be interesting to see how this one ends up. can't say no a second time, if we get a second chance. more i think about it michigan state would be a good fit for him, but hopefully he chooses us instead.

he won't be going to penn st,we can all agree to that right?

 

[Domina Nostra]

holding out hope here, but i (like many others) were not thrilled with us passing him up from the get go. it'll be interesting to see how this one ends up. can't say no a second time, if we get a second chance.

I was not thrilled either- I think we should never pass on Top 10 DLmen unless we already have 3 pure D-linemen in that class. While I can understand that we may have been holding out for an Armistead-level DLman, and that we may have to slow-play some very good players if we want to sign the elite kids, I think you err on the side of DLinemen.

As far as "pride" goes, I don't think there is anything humiliating about finding out your spot was taken. He had the offer and could have committed earlier. Tommy should just see this as a new opportunity. He has to know that NO ONE IN THE WORLD WILL REMEMBER (OR CARE ABOUT) ANY OF THIS A YEAR FROM NOW.

I am of the opinion that you really should be doing your homework your junior year, and should have a good enough idea of where you want to go that you can act if you are offered. The whole idea that you should take your time and really let the process play out is rolling the dice, IMO.

 

[rtrn2glory]

I was not thrilled either- I think we should never pass on Top 10 DLmen unless we already have 3 pure D-linemen in that class. While I can understand that we may have been holding out for an Armistead-level DLman, and that we may have to slow-play some very good players if we want to sign the elite kids, I think you err on the side of DLinemen.

As far as "pride" goes, I don't think there is anything humiliating about finding out your spot was taken. He had the offer and could have committed earlier. Tommy should just see this as a new opportunity. He has to know that NO ONE IN THE WORLD WILL REMEMBER (OR CARE ABOUT) ANY OF THIS A YEAR FROM NOW.

I am of the opinion that you really should be doing your homework your junior year, and should have a good enough idea of where you want to go that you can act if you are offered. The whole idea that you should take your time and really let the process play out is rolling the dice, IMO.

i hear what you're saying, but i wonder how many times a recruit as elite as tommy is can be told "sorry we're full"

 

[Domina Nostra]

i hear what you're saying, but i wonder how many times a recruit as elite as tommy is can be told "sorry we're full"

Not too often, but it happened to Tommy twice in a week.

No doubt pride could overcome the kid and he could chose based on his ego rather than reality. That reality is that we only thought we needed one interior lineman and a comparable talent pulled the trigger first.

Pride is a vice and humility is the virtue. Pride hurts you, despite the prevailing wisdom of college football fandom. The smart move is just to assess the situation and chose the best place for him.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Not too often, but it happened to Tommy twice in a week.

No doubt pride could overcome the kid and he could chose based on his ego rather than reality. That reality is that we only thought we needed one interior lineman and a comparable talent pulled the trigger first.

Pride is a vice and humility is the virtue. Pride hurts you, despite the prevailing wisdom of college football fandom. The smart move is just to assess the situation and chose the best place for him.

the unfortunate thing is that this should have been an enjoyable process for him, but now it has turned into a nightmare and will always dread thinking about it.

i do like the idea of going after tommy in place of keeping cwynar for another year...no offense to sean, but purely the option of having a guy for 4-5 years compared to one.

 

[TerryTate]

the unfortunate thing is that this should have been an enjoyable process for him, but now it has turned into a nightmare and will always dread thinking about it.

Oh I think he's alright.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Oh I think he's alright.

Que?

 

[TerryTate]

Probably should have quoted what I was referring to.

The guy is getting recruiting to play football in college, he's not dreading anything. It's not like ND was his dream school. He waited too long, spots filled, we both have moved on.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Honestly, I don't know why people think that is a lock. KLM, Slaughter, Cave are the only locks right now. I could totally see grabbing a guy like Schutt in place of bringing back either Golic or Cwynar for a 5th year.

Cwynar is not a lock, especially with how well our freshman DL have played this year, but he's a productive starter at a position that's not exactly overflowing with talent for us.

Cwynar and Nix have taken virtually all of the snaps this year. Stockton is a bust, and Springmann is a true freshman with zero experience.

Maybe the staff is very high on Springmann. Maybe they expect Stockton to contribute next year. Maybe they plan on using Tuitt at NT more often. Maybe they'll take Schutt and let Cwynar go.

Lots of possibilities that would result in Cwynar not coming back, but none seems very likely to me. If I had to bet on it, I think Cwynar comes back.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Probably should have quoted what I was referring to.

The guy is getting recruiting to play football in college, he's not dreading anything. It's not like ND was his dream school. He waited too long, spots filled, we both have moved on.

hope you're right...seems like a rough couple of months for a kid

 

[Irish Man3]

Makes me cringe a little bit:

DPOY: Glenbard West's Tommy Schutt - Chicago High School Blog - ESPN Chicago

 

[Irish4Life09]

Makes me cringe a little bit:

DPOY: Glenbard West's Tommy Schutt - Chicago High School Blog - ESPN Chicago

This kid definitely sounds like a Notre Dame kid. Very intelligent and athletic.
If we have an extra opening at anytime I definitely wouldn't mind him taking it.

 

[Irish Man3]

This kid definitely sounds like a Notre Dame kid. Very intelligent and athletic.
If we have an extra opening at anytime I definitely wouldn't mind him taking it.

I've heard from numerous people that even if Notre Dame opened the gate, Tommy will not consider the Irish.

 

[Irish4Life09]

I've heard from numerous people that even if Notre Dame opened the gate, Tommy will not consider the Irish.

And that would certainly be reasonable.From one point of view Schutt got a raw deal,and wasnt ready to decide.Recruiting is a weird process.I wish the best for the kid.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Reading that makes me a little queasy. I trust the staff and hope we fill our spots with some top prospects. Otherwise we might really be regretting the Schutt decision.

 

[GBdomer]

I've heard from numerous people that even if Notre Dame opened the gate, Tommy will not consider the Irish.

Heard different.

 

[IrishLax]

Scheduling OV to Ohio State. I expect a flip.

 

[woolybug25]

I've heard from numerous people that even if Notre Dame opened the gate, Tommy will not consider the Irish.

Where have you heard this? I am calling BS...


The one phrase that can never be trusted, "I heard it from a reliable source". (or any statement of equal meaning)

 

[GBdomer]

Hearing he flipped to OSU just trying to confirm it from something.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Hearing he flipped to OSU just trying to confirm it from something.

That was inevitable.. At least now we can watch him pound on scUM.

 

[rtrn2glory]

ohio st's had some stud d lineman in the past and tha'ts a good fit for him if that's the case.