'12 OH RB William Mahone (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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Since we're all providing theories, maybe someone silent verbals so that if someone who they think is better than them or rated higher at the same position also verbals to that same team, then the first player can go elsewhere.

For instance, if Mahone wants to go to ND as long as K Marshall doesn't, it would make sense, no?

It would makes sense but if I'm Willy Mahone I'm not giving my verbal to ANY school that gives me that condition. It's not like he's an un-ranked nobody. The kid has a long list of suitors and I can't imagine he would be okay with the "we'll take you if we can't get anything better" approach.
 
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It would makes sense but if I'm Willy Mahone I'm not giving my verbal to ANY school that gives me that condition. It's not like he's an un-ranked nobody. The kid has a long list of suitors and I can't imagine he would be okay with the "we'll take you if we can't get anything better" approach.

I'm not saying that the school would say 'we'll take you because we can't get anyone better'. The school has offers to both guys and would gladly take both guys.

My point was that MAYBE a player who offers his silent verbal does so so that in case a better player commits at the same position after he does, he can back out without too much of a backlash. Just a theory since we're all expert theorists :)
 
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OK (and again I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but this is why I asked the question), but how does it benefit the player to be a "silent" verbal? Just verbal, and if you later change your mind because another player comes in or the school goes on probation or whatever, you just un-verbal and go somewhere else. It isn't like another team will hold it against you that you were previously committed elsewhere, especially if you have a legit reason for de-committing.
 

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He wants to go to the Pitt game this weekend. If he verballed to ND now they would probably turn down his request to attend.

Just my two cents

To keuhnja's point, You could have a kid be a silent verbal to not scare away other RB prospects that you also want to get on board. It would not necessarily be a conditional offer, i.e. you have a spot if K. Marshall doesn't come, but more along the lines of, "we need at least two running backs and we want you to be one of them but we don't want to scare off other top guys that we want to join you." I don't think this really happens, but again it is a theory.
 
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Maybe because they don't want everyone to know why they decommitted (due to competition from a 'better' player)?

I'd go with Whiskey's theory, it's the most plausible.
 

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Maybe he just wants to come out publically when he wants to. For instance he may want his whole family and coaches to be around when he commits rather than just commiting through twitter or some other means.

Because once he commits it is a big step in determining his future and it is a special moment, so he may just want to wait for the world to know, until he is ready.

Just a thought.
 
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Maybe he just wants to come out publically when he wants to. For instance he may want his whole family and coaches to be around when he commits rather than just commiting through twitter or some other means.

Because once he commits it is a big step in determining his future and it is a special moment, so he may just want to wait for the world to know, until he is ready.

Just a thought.

I like both this and Whiskey's theory better than mine. Scratch my idea.
 

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He wants to go to the Pitt game this weekend. If he verballed to ND now they would probably turn down his request to attend.

Just my two cents

To keuhnja's point, You could have a kid be a silent verbal to not scare away other RB prospects that you also want to get on board. It would not necessarily be a conditional offer, i.e. you have a spot if K. Marshall doesn't come, but more along the lines of, "we need at least two running backs and we want you to be one of them but we don't want to scare off other top guys that we want to join you." I don't think this really happens, but again it is a theory.

I think this makes the most sense. Other teams know how high Mahone is on us. Therefore, they understand they have the same amount of work to do recruiting him as if he were committed (publicly). No need to scare any other recruits away
 
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Re this whole silent commit theory, perhaps as a silent, he can take his OV's without the school he is visiting feeling as if they don't have a legit shot and therefore not giving him the treatment a non committed recruit may get. If he feels he will get everyone's treatment and undivided attention (full view of academic facilities, meetings w eduactional advisors, etc., etc) as long as he has not verballed elsewhere then he will have the best opportunity to rate the schools on equal footing. If he takes an OV and the school doesn't give him a full view of things because he has verballed to another school, he won't truly know what they have to offer. Just my .02. Anyway, here's hoping Mr. Mahone feels that ND is the right place for him.
 

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I guess, but guys that have verbally verballed (audibly verballed...what would be the opposite of silently verballed?) still go on OVs. Doesn't seem like it provides a huge benefit. If guys really do give secret verbals (and we really have no way of knowing), there must be a reason. Maybe you're right as to why. It is better than anything else I can come up with.

There's always some controversy when a recruit verbally commits but continues to take OVs. Depending on how Mahone's been raised, he may feel that it's not right to publicly commit to one school while openly "shopping around". That's why, if I was Mahone, I'd keep my verbal under wraps until I finished taking OVs.
 
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There's always some controversy when a recruit verbally commits but continues to take OVs. Depending on how Mahone's been raised, he may feel that it's not right to publicly commit to one school while openly "shopping around" by taking OVs. That's why, if I was Mahone, I'd make my keep verbal under wraps until I finished taking OVs.

+1

I think it makes the OV experience different. Instead of other schools telling him how their respective school can one-up the verbaled-school (in this case, hopefully ND), they have to try to sell them their school over the four others he's visiting.
 

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Maybe he is still undecided with Notre Dame in a pretty good position? Maybe he wants to attend the Pittsburgh game to make sure he is covering all his bases before he makes a decision?
 

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This is all assuming that he is, in fact, a silent verbal.

Either way, we're in really good position here.
 

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Maybe he is still undecided with Notre Dame in a pretty good position? Maybe he wants to attend the Pittsburgh game to make sure he is covering all his bases before he makes a decision?

Whoa...that's crazy talk!
 

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No offense, but I don't think you thought this one through. Please elaborate.

Maybe he is ready to commit to Notre Dame but he wants to do it after a later game or on a special date like Aaron Lynch did with his grandfather or something of the sort. There are different reasons why you would silent reasons why you would silent commit
 

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Orrrrrrrrrrr maybe he reads IE and doesn't feel his thread has enough pages yet.
 

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Talked to him and his mother this weekend.....you guys are overthinking and taking this waaay too far lol. recruiting as complex as it is...is very simple. lol You like the school or you dont. and you go from there.

Pitt has his buddies.
ND has his mothers approval.

I think that after Mahone sees our D can stop Graham and msu back 2 back weeks, he would like no part of trying to run on that D. ;)
 

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Since Mahone knows that ND wants 2 RB's in this class I see Mahone and another big time RB committing after a huge win against USC, I think ND get's 4-5 recruits after that game.
 

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Since Mahone knows that ND wants 2 RB's in this class I see Mahone and another big time RB committing after a huge win against USC, I think ND get's 4-5 recruits after that game.

It is going to be a big game to get game changers thats for sure.
 

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“@willywavessvoxo: #ND will be at the game tomorrow along with #psu”

“@willywavessvoxo: We play Glenn oak #psu Is def there for bri'onte Dunn #notme lol”
 
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