'23 IL OT Charles Jagusah (Notre Dame Signee)

[mrmcgrail]

Horka had a whole thing on it a week or two ago. Pretty much that they think the surgery went well he was going in last week to see if the nerve damage is progressing or not

 

[NDFAN2008]

Hopefully we can get him back by BYU and I honestly hope he comes back for one more year. I'm sure he can be a high draft pick but teams are going to question is health history

 

[irish4ever]

It's like back and forth 4 weeks ago they were saying he might not play this year now it's looking like he will play what the hell is it? He is def lifting we can see that, so what is the hold up? I wouldn't rush him back but let's hope he's ready by week 6-7

Time will tell, but with him not playing as long as he has and with the current OL players working hard and the battles taking place for being a starter, would it be a huge uptick in OL performance by moving Charles in as a starter in week 7? Don't get me wrong, he's very talented and I'd love to see him return ... I'm just not sure that it would be a 'difference maker' under these existing circumstances.

 

[HouseofPain]

No way a guy who hasnt played in two years and hasnt consistently lifted in two years could come in and beat some of the best talent in the country in OL just like that. If so, it would just be a testimony to how bad our OL development would have to be.

 

[BeauBenken]

If it isn't free, don't just copy/ paste articles please -- maybe more so you don't get banned from those pay sites than for our website's protection. The info will get here anyways.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Phil Steele preseason All American

 

[notredomer23]

Phil Steele preseason All American

I know it's just Phil Steele, but pretty wild to include a guy that has played 2 games in his career while not including KVA on at least the third team.

 

[IAIrish]

If it isn't free, don't just copy/ paste articles please -- maybe more so you don't get banned from those pay sites than for our website's protection. The info will get here anyways.

It was part of the preview of the article anyone can read. I don't subscribe to II. The quote seemed pertinent to the topic at hand, but I'll refrain from doing so in the future.

 

[RudyVerse]

I don’t think it’s crazy to include him. He’s viewed extremely highly by the NFL. A NFL scout told Matt Freeman his sophomore ~2 games he played were so good if he plays 2 healthy games this year he’ll be a 1st round pick. He’s far and away the most talented OL on the team.

 

[GoIrish41]

I don’t think it’s crazy to include him. He’s viewed extremely highly by the NFL. A NFL scout told Matt Freeman his sophomore ~2 games he played were so good if he plays 2 healthy games this year he’ll be a 1st round pick. He’s far and away the most talented OL on the team.

He’s not going to be a first round pick until he plays a whole season. His injury history is going to make any other scenario implausible. He’ll probably be ND’s starting guard … in 2027 … even if he makes in on the field by mid-season this year. No NFL team is going to invest a first round pick on a guy whose entire college career was four games.

 

[Lord Jim]

He’s not going to be a first round pick until he plays a whole season. His injury history is going to make any other scenario implausible. He’ll probably be ND’s starting guard … in 2027 … even if he makes in on the field by mid-season this year. No NFL team is going to invest a first round pick on a guy whose entire college career was four games.

Trey Lance?

 

[RudyVerse]

He’s not going to be a first round pick until he plays a whole season. His injury history is going to make any other scenario implausible. He’ll probably be ND’s starting guard … in 2027 … even if he makes in on the field by mid-season this year. No NFL team is going to invest a first round pick on a guy whose entire college career was four games.

I don’t disagree but I also am more optimistic on him in 2026 that others and the beat. If no complications, a March 18th surgery with 3 months to heal and a few months of strength training puts him on the field IMO. This isn’t a knee or ankle which takes longer to gain strength and the NFL seems to view him as a Quentin Nelson type talent. I think he starts before our playoffs start.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Is there not a lot of strength training that he CAN do?
It seems intuitively that he won't be starting from Zero.

 

[RDU Irish]

The goal should probably be full strength heading into the playoffs. IDGAF about his season - give me a difference maker in the trenches when it matters. NFL won't care either -difference b/w a full season or not is probably late first round versus lottery pick.

 

[Rocketman84]

Trey Lance?

30TDs-1 INT

 

[Crazy Balki]

The goal should probably be full strength heading into the playoffs. IDGAF about his season - give me a difference maker in the trenches when it matters. NFL won't care either -difference b/w a full season or not is probably late first round versus lottery pick.

Nah, if you want Jagusah for the CFP, you need to get him on the field for a couple regular season games. If they can get him ready for BC, SMU and Syracuse, shake the rust off and you're off and running.

 

[BeauBenken]

It was part of the preview of the article anyone can read. I don't subscribe to II. The quote seemed pertinent to the topic at hand, but I'll refrain from doing so in the future.

You're all good then.

 

[RudyVerse]

It’s not much but it’s more than what’s out there. On power hour Mike Frank said he’s heard the bone has healed. There was some clean up after but bone is in tact and Mike thinks he plays sometime this year. But said you can’t predict strength and if the current guys are doing well, how do you put in an unknown.

But I’ll take a 6th man in November with NFL talent all day on a playoff run.

 

[allenm5333]

It’s not much but it’s more than what’s out there. On power hour Mike Frank said he’s heard the bone has healed. There was some clean up after but bone is in tact and Mike thinks he plays sometime this year. But said you can’t predict strength and if the current guys are doing well, how do you put in an unknown.

But I’ll take a 6th man in November with NFL talent all day on a playoff run.

Tim O'Malley said something today on II podcast. Didn't go into detail about it but said his initial report there was concern was proven wrong. All he added was that the person who denied his initial report is very trusted. Before the 27:15 mark but I am too lazy to re-listen

 

[Dale]

They are not doctors and should stop sharing every nugget of info they think they have IMO. It’s clearly not a check up on a torn ACL timeline wise. The answer is we don’t know until Freeman goes up there for a presser and actually says something official.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I think the issue wasn't the bone healing, but the nerve in the arm.

But at this point, I'm just like whatever. I'm going in expecting him to not play and will be pleasantly surprised if he does.

 

[IrishInOntario]

My prediction is that he's healing relatively in line with what our ortho doc explained to me (and I subsequently posted in this thread) earlier this year.

Hopefully he's ahead of the admittedly conservative schedule our doc noted, but I'll stick to my idea that if you could have him ready maybe a week before Miami (on Halloween vs Navy) just to see some action before starting at OG vs the Hurricanes, that would be awesome..

The healing is important, yes... But for me it's just as important that he gets 12-16 weeks of high end strength training in to make sure his upper body is game ready.

 

[Crazy Balki]

My prediction is that he's healing relatively in line with what out ortho doc explained to me (and I subsequently posted in this thread) earlier this year.

Hopefully he's ahead of the admitedly conservative schedule our doc noted, but I'll stick to my idea that if you could have him ready maybe a week before Miami (on Halloween vs Navy) just to see some action before starting at OG vs the Hurricanes, that would be awesome..

The healing is important, yes... But for me it's just as important that he gets 12-16 weeks of high end strength training in to make sure his upper body is game ready.

If the recent ND hype video is any indication, Jagusah was seen doing squats. I know that's not an upper body workout, but generally it's not a workout you can do with a fucked up arm. Arm stability is crucial to doing an effective squat.

 

[IrishInOntario]

If the recent ND hype video is any indication, Jagusah was seen doing squats. I know that's not an upper body workout, but generally it's not a workout you can do with a fucked up arm. Arm stability is crucial to doing an effective squat.

Love that he's squating. Need to build in all the heavy compounds. If we can get him benching some serious weight and getting weight above his head in any variation of an overhead press, we're well on the way. Maybe he's already doing all of that, who knows!?

 

[allenm5333]

Love that he's squating. Need to build in all the heavy compounds. If we can get him benching some serious weight and getting weight above his head in any variation of an overhead press, we're well on the way. Maybe he's already doing all of that, who knows!?

The ESPN segment about his road to recovery that airs before we win the national title>>>>

 

[GrangerIrish24]

If the recent ND hype video is any indication, Jagusah was seen doing squats. I know that's not an upper body workout, but generally it's not a workout you can do with a fucked up arm. Arm stability is crucial to doing an effective squat.

This makes me miss Giddyup