2024 College Football Playoffs

[stlnd01]

This is probably the most frustrating part.

I bet we would be two-score favorites against five of those seven teams (we’re probably smaller favorite vs Miami and even odds with Clemson) but it’s quite possible nearly all of them finishes the regular season with one or fewer losses.

Two would then lose in their conference title games but if that for some reason doesn’t matter to the CFP committee we could wind up getting hosed with a low seed behind the likes of Pitt or Iowa State.

OTOH, this being college football, probably most of them will lose three before the season's over.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

OTOH, this being college football, probably most of them will lose three before the season's over.

Definitely frustrating and slightly worrying seeing the pool of teams still in contention, but the last time the Irish were on a bye week, chaos ensued. So, here's to hoping for another stress-free weekend of football carnage.

Those are some of my favorite weekends, when we're at home eating cheeseburgers, and it's upset galore.

 

[SDIrishFan]

Definitely frustrating and slightly worrying seeing the pool of teams still in contention, but the last time the Irish were on a bye week, chaos ensued. So, here's to hoping for another stress-free weekend of football carnage.

Those are some of my favorite weekends, when we're at home eating cheeseburgers, and it's upset galore.

It's amazing to me how that one comment has lived on in ND lore. Up there with the Four Horseman and Win one for the Gipper.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

It's amazing to me how that one comment has live on in ND lore. Up there with the Four Horseman and Win one for the Gipper.

haha, it really is incredible. For such a lackluster HC, Charlie sure left his mark with that one. I see it all of the time in articles. Even the "Rakes Report" blog.

 

[SDIrishFan]

haha, it really is incredible. For such a lackluster HC, Charlie sure left his mark with that one. I see it all of the time in articles. Even the "Rakes Report" blog.

All Charlie will be remembered for, Cheeseburgers and Whoosh!

 

[General Colon Bowel]

Look at past CFP standings post-conference championship weekend. The lowest one-loss P4/5 team is typically between 4-7.

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True, but it was harder to be a one loss team in the past with more power 5 conferences and members playing most everyone in the conference. There will likely end up being more undefeated and 1-loss teams this year than in years past

 

[SeekNDestroy]

All Charlie will be remembered for, Cheeseburgers and Whoosh!

Don’t forget “schematic advantage.”

 

[LifelongFan]

It will work its way out like always. I really think BYU and Penn State drop a shocking game at some point and we move by them, and other losses will happen too. Miami has been teetering and getting bailed out by the refs. I'm not concerned at all about a 1 loss ND missing.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

It'll never happen.
One loss and we're in.

 

[Wild Bill]

IMO, the biggest question is how they'll compare a one loss ND with a two loss team where their second loss was on a conference title game.

SEC or BIG team that gets their second loss in the conference title game will be ranked ahead of ND. I'm not sure the ACC and 12 can survive two losses.

 

[NDWarrior]

Maybe the only exception is if you get, e.g., IU losing to OSU 2x at the end of the season? The Big10 did go to a top two teams conf. championship now - Correct? I don't see that happening with IU but if it did, I don't think a 10-2 IU gets into the CFP in that case.

 

[stlnd01]

IMO, the biggest question is how they'll compare a one loss ND with a two loss team where their second loss was on a conference title game.

SEC or BIG team that gets their second loss in the conference title game will be ranked ahead of ND. I'm not sure the ACC and 12 can survive two losses.

We can live with this, IMO. The problem only comes if two-loss teams that didn’t make their conference title game, or conference-title-game losers in the Big 12 or ACC, slot in ahead of a one-loss ND.

 

[dublinirish]

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[BleedingGold]

I could see BYU as the 4 seat which means I’d like to see ND end up with the 5/12 seat matchup hopefully at home against someone like Boise State. Life could be a lot worse than a road of Boise State and BYU to the championship game.

 

[CoachB]

Wow, I just looked at Penn St's schedule. They are absolutely undeserving of a spot. They have beaten zero ranked teams and have been unconvincing in their wins, and they play nobody here on out. Wonder why they are getting a free pass.

 

[stlnd01]

Wow, I just looked at Penn St's schedule. They are absolutely undeserving of a spot. They have beaten zero ranked teams and have been unconvincing in their wins, and they play nobody here on out. Wonder why they are getting a free pass.

You do realize people look at our schedule and say the same thing, right? (except we beat one ranked team but lost to NIU instead of Ohio State).

I think we'd stomp them head-to-head, personally, but ND and Penn State are very similar positions going forward. Win out and you're in at 11-1, probably hosting a first round game. Lose another and it's curtains.

 

[stlnd01]

FWIW, The Athletic this morning projects us as the 5th most likely to make the CFP and the 6 seed in the tournament. (they also project us to finish 10-2 so not sure how the math works there.)
That would have us host Bama in the first round and then play Georgia. Maybe it'd be OK to be the 7 seed instead?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5701128/2024/11/03/college-football-playoff-projections-odds/

 

[EvilleIrish]

Can’t decide if yesterday hurt or helped us with AM losing but Louisville getting the win at Clemson.

 

[notredomer23]

Can’t decide if yesterday hurt or helped us with AM losing but Louisville getting the win at Clemson.

IMO Clemson losing is bigger because it all but ensures the ACC gets only one spot unless Miami gets upset in the ACC title.
-Miami has @GT, Wake, @Syracuse.
-SMU has BC, @Virginia, Cal

Don’t think we necessarily “need help” anymore to get in, but for seeding, we either need Miami to drop 1 of those or to simply win out and win the title. Same with the Big 12. Just need BYU to either win out, or drop 1 before the title game. Then it won’t matter who wins the title.

 

[notredomer23]

Looking ahead at next week’s playoff implication games:

-UGA at Ole Miss. Ole Miss can play themselves back into the playoff.
-Alabama at LSU. Pulling for big game Brian because that eliminates Bama, and LSU will surely drop another game.
-Washington at PSU. I think OSU kicked the crap out of this team and it’s a let down spot.
-BYU at Utah. Utah kinda stinks now but BYU is bound to lose at some point.

I originally thought Florida may be a long shot upset opportunity over Texas but they’re going nowhere if Lagway is out long term

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Can’t decide if yesterday hurt or helped us with AM losing but Louisville getting the win at Clemson.

It’ll be golden if A&M can regroup and beat Texas at the end of the season.

 

[CoachB]

You do realize people look at our schedule and say the same thing, right? (except we beat one ranked team but lost to NIU instead of Ohio State).

I think we'd stomp them head-to-head, personally, but ND and Penn State are very similar positions going forward. Win out and you're in at 11-1, probably hosting a first round game. Lose another and it's curtains.

Let's do a side by side then...

Penn St.

West Virginia
Bowling Green
Kent State
Illinois
UCLA
USC
Wisconsin
Ohio St.
Washington
Purdue
Minnesota
Maryland

Notre Dame

Texas A&M
Northern Illinois
Purdue
Miami (OH)
Louisville
Stanford
Georgia Tech
Navy
Florida St.
Virginia
Army
USC

By my count, Penn St. has played, or will play, two teams that have been ranked at any point. Ohio St. and Illinois. The same Illinois that hung on to beat Purdue by 1. We, of course, blasted them by 59. Illinois will not be in the rankings any longer. The only other ranked team they played, was a loss.

The Irish have played, or will play, five teams that have been ranked at any point. Texas A&M, Louisville, Georgia Tech, Navy, and Army. If we beat Army, we would be 5-0 against those teams. By my count, that counts as 5 wins against teams that have been ranked at any point vs. 1 for Penn St. A nice comparison will be the last game of the year also. Penn St. pulled out two fourth down conversions on the game winning drive to beat USC in the coliseum 33-30. We will have to take care of business out in Cali also.

It seems to me that we have had a MUCH more challenging schedule, and more success against it, than the Nittany Lions have had. So people can "say" the same thing about our schedule. It just wouldn't be true.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[NDPhilly]

PSU at 6 is such a joke lmao. Will be fixed Tuesday so can’t get too mad at it

 

[stpeteirish]

PSU at 6 is such a joke lmao. Will be fixed Tuesday so can’t get too mad at it

You've got more faith in the committee than I do. I'm expecting 10th or 11th with BYU PSU IU and maybe even Boise ahead of us.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Texas A&M losing does not help us. We and they have been tied together ever since they started getting going beating everyone (until now.) Voters had to honor us if they wanted to honor A&M. AND we had to be in front. Louisville's win helps a lot. A&Ms loss does not.

Nothing matters except US winning though, so, OK. I have been sure that at 11-1 we get in, and may with any luck get an opponent we can truck. If we are 10-2, my feeling pretty strongly is that there are loads of people who will delight in throwing us out. If we're in, we have to beat good teams regardless, so, get in and bring it on.

Golden coaches a Championship level defense. If Leonard doesn't sh!t his pants, then we're pretty dangerous even when not pretty. In the infamous loss, Golden's bunch still played winning football. It took a VERY bizarre pass to get them a score. Golden has not "lost" a game this year. If we give him a chance, he'll probably win five more, maybe six. ... and I bet many ranking committee people see that.

 

[calvegas04]

You've got more faith in the committee than I do. I'm expecting 10th or 11th with BYU PSU IU and maybe even Boise ahead of us.

They haven't lost, no issue here. Except Bosie

 

[ab2cmiller]

I can't think of anything more meaningless than a stat of what a teams record was against teams that were ranked at some point.

Do Georgia Tech and BC get some fictitious bonus points for beating a crappy FSU team that was ranked 10th at the time that they played them?

 

[Irish du Nord]

Let's do a side by side then...

Penn St.

West Virginia
Bowling Green
Kent State
Illinois
UCLA
USC
Wisconsin
Ohio St.
Washington
Purdue
Minnesota
Maryland

Notre Dame

Texas A&M
Northern Illinois
Purdue
Miami (OH)
Louisville
Stanford
Georgia Tech
Navy
Florida St.
Virginia
Army
USC

By my count, Penn St. has played, or will play, two teams that have been ranked at any point. Ohio St. and Illinois. The same Illinois that hung on to beat Purdue by 1. We, of course, blasted them by 59. Illinois will not be in the rankings any longer. The only other ranked team they played, was a loss.

The Irish have played, or will play, five teams that have been ranked at any point. Texas A&M, Louisville, Georgia Tech, Navy, and Army. If we beat Army, we would be 5-0 against those teams. By my count, that counts as 5 wins against teams that have been ranked at any point vs. 1 for Penn St. A nice comparison will be the last game of the year also. Penn St. pulled out two fourth down conversions on the game winning drive to beat USC in the coliseum 33-30. We will have to take care of business out in Cali also.

It seems to me that we have had a MUCH more challenging schedule, and more success against it, than the Nittany Lions have had. So people can "say" the same thing about our schedule. It just wouldn't be true.

The only correction I'd make is that USC was ranked early in the year. Notch one up in both columns I guess. Minnesota may have a chance to be ranked by the season's end, but it would be hard unless they beat PSU.

 

[Irish du Nord]

I can't think of anything more meaningless than a stat of what a teams record was against teams that were ranked at some point.

Do Georgia Tech and BC get some fictitious bonus points for beating a crappy FSU team that was ranked 10th at the time that they played them?

Okay, so GT benefitted from playing an overrated FSU week 0. Does beating 2 loss Navy now mean as much as beating 4 loss Wisconsin?