‘23 CA QB Jaden Rashada (Arizona State Verbal)

[tussin]

So Drew Pyne punted on a ND degree to go to a 6th tier state school, sit on the bench, and pray for bowl eligibility. Big brain decision making.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[IrishLax]

Great article. My main takeaways are:
1. Trusting these NIL collectives to pay you anything more than an upfront payment due before signing is a fool’s errand. These contracts are largely unenforceable on both sides because you’d have to sue the collective to get the money if they don’t pay you.

2. More than anything, these NIL agents trying to get their “cut” are going to continue to be a huge cancer.

 

[arrowryan]

All of that and he’ll probably be nothing more than average college QB

 

[notredomer23]

With hundreds watching the passing drills from the stands at Redondo Union High School, Rashada struggled mightily; he repeatedly misfired on throws to receivers. Event organizers said Rashada appeared to be visibly stressed by the attention. A reporter covering the finals for The Athletic spotted him in tears.

yikes

 

[stlnd01]

Great article. My main takeaways are:
1. Trusting these NIL collectives to pay you anything more than an upfront payment due before signing is a fool’s errand. These contracts are largely unenforceable on both sides because you’d have to sue the collective to get the money if they don’t pay you.

2. More than anything, these NIL agents trying to get their “cut” are going to continue to be a huge cancer.

Yep. The bit about how the collective can (and here did) cancel the contract at any time for any reason and owe nothing is just brutal. That's... not really how contracts work.

 

[notredomer23]

It seems a really easy way to limit these insane NIL inducements is to ban residency clauses in the deals.

 

[stlnd01]

It seems a really easy way to limit these insane NIL inducements is to ban residency clauses in the deals.

??
A residency clause seems like the only way that a collective - which is not an arm of the university of course - can ensure that the player is attending their chosen school, as opposed to taking Florida money while playing for Arizona State. Which seems fair enough, to me.
The way to limit inducements is to ban payments to high school kids. No money before you enroll in college. Something like that.

 

[notredomer23]

??
A residency clause seems like the only way that a collective - which is not an arm of the university of course - can ensure that the player is attending their chosen school, as opposed to taking Florida money while playing for Arizona State. Which seems fair enough, to me.
The way to limit inducements is to ban payments to high school kids. No money before you enroll in college. Something like that.

Think you kinda answered the first half with the bolded part of your post. Inducements already are banned and paying high school kids is in like 47 of 50 states. Banning a residency/geography type of clause would prevent collectives from doing these contracts. They'd have to figure out an even slimier, shadier way, like dropping bags of McDonalds.

 

[stlnd01]

Think you kinda answered the first half with the bolded part of your post. Inducements already are banned and paying high school kids is in like 47 of 50 states. Banning a residency/geography type of clause would prevent collectives from doing these contracts. They'd have to figure out an even slimier, shadier way, like dropping bags of McDonalds.

I can't keep track of all the different rules but if payments to high school kids are banned in 47 states, how are guys getting paid upfront/getting paid to go on visits/etc.?

 

[Ndaccountant]

Yep. The bit about how the collective can (and here did) cancel the contract at any time for any reason and owe nothing is just brutal. That's... not really how contracts work.

It is if you sign it

 

[IrishLion]

Honestly feel bad for the kid after reading all that.

My hypothesis:

- He committed to Miami's NIL deal to secure the bag for his family
- He (or his camp) decided to decommit from Miami when it appeared Cristobal and the U might not be guaranteed for on-field success the way they thought
- It was easy to flip to Florida, which is where he wanted to be in the first place (total sour grapes from his dad about that... his dad straight up blames much of Jaden's stress on 'his mom and sister always telling him he should've picked Florida')
- Florida wants to secure his services, and their lead collective bro wants to make a big splash and announce Florida as being super serious in the NIL game
- Rashada struggles in camp settings from the stress, and it becomes obvious that he's an average 4-star kid, not the can't-miss prospect his contract reflects
- Florida's collective leaves him hanging, basically telling him to find a new spot without saying it outright
- Now the kid has NO deal, because his dad and other hired advisors allowed him to sign the shittiest, most one-sided contract in the history of the world

Terrible advice from everyone involved for this kid. And I know NIL is a new world, but his dad is a former D1 athlete... you'd expect this dude to have SOME feel for how they're getting yanked along by these schools. Sheesh.

I hope his time at ASU allows him some time to grow, and to develop some sense of making decisions for himself. I have a feeling if he balls out in year one or two, dad is gonna be pressing him to secure the bag from the highest bidder among potential transfer destinations.

If he DOES pan out, and he DOES transfer to a CFP contender to secure the bag, I hope it's at least a school of his choosing.

 

[irishff1014]

Honestly feel bad for the kid after reading all that.

My hypothesis:

- He committed to Miami's NIL deal to secure the bag for his family
- He (or his camp) decided to decommit from Miami when it appeared Cristobal and the U might not be guaranteed for on-field success the way they thought
- It was easy to flip to Florida, which is where he wanted to be in the first place (total sour grapes from his dad about that... his dad straight up blames much of Jaden's stress on 'his mom and sister always telling him he should've picked Florida')
- Florida wants to secure his services, and their lead collective bro wants to make a big splash and announce Florida as being super serious in the NIL game
- Rashada struggles in camp settings from the stress, and it becomes obvious that he's an average 4-star kid, not the can't-miss prospect his contract reflects
- Florida's collective leaves him hanging, basically telling him to find a new spot without saying it outright
- Now the kid has NO deal, because his dad and other hired advisors allowed him to sign the shittiest, most one-sided contract in the history of the world

Terrible advice from everyone involved for this kid. And I know NIL is a new world, but his dad is a former D1 athlete... you'd expect this dude to have SOME feel for how they're getting yanked along by these schools. Sheesh.

I hope his time at ASU allows him some time to grow, and to develop some sense of making decisions for himself. I have a feeling if he balls out in year one or two, dad is gonna be pressing him to secure the bag from the highest bidder among potential transfer destinations.

If he DOES pan out, and he DOES transfer to a CFP contender to secure the bag, I hope it's at least a school of his choosing.

Don’t pimp your kids out. End of story!

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Yeah, I don't want ND to play this stupid game. No way, no thank you, disagree, circle gets a square.

 

[dublinirish]

Lol at the company run by a sophomore at SMU


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[jprue24]

Great article. My main takeaways are:
1. Trusting these NIL collectives to pay you anything more than an upfront payment due before signing is a fool’s errand. These contracts are largely unenforceable on both sides because you’d have to sue the collective to get the money if they don’t pay you.

2. More than anything, these NIL agents trying to get their “cut” are going to continue to be a huge cancer.

Terrible advice from everyone involved for this kid. And I know NIL is a new world, but his dad is a former D1 athlete... you'd expect this dude to have SOME feel for how they're getting yanked along by these schools. Sheesh.

Nico's lawyer brought all of this up in the Athletic's article about Nico's deal.

"Caspino, who says he has worked on deals like this with about 30 high school players, said the original terms were far more one-sided toward the collective. He decried some of the tactics those groups and NIL agents are using to maintain control over the athlete.

In one draft version of another deal The Athletic reviewed, the collective agreed to pay an athlete $1.5 million across two years but could “from time to time” ask for repayment of that money, plus a 10 percent commission and expenses — even if the agreement were to be terminated."

Five-star recruit in Class of 2023 signs agreement with collective that could pay him more than $8 million

Two NIL experts The Athletic spoke to believe this deal is the largest individual NIL deal signed by a non-professional athlete.

theathletic.com

 

[Irish8248]

NIL IS SO MUCH FUNNNNNNNNN.... At least it's for the good of the commit lol

 

[NDPhilly]

Kid has been super impressive so far in his ASU debut. Arm talent is undeniable but accuracy has been surprisinly good. Doubt they give the job back to Pyne or the other kid.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Kid has been super impressive so far in his ASU debut. Arm talent is undeniable but accuracy has been surprisinly good. Doubt they give the job back to Pyne or the other kid.

18-31 Against Southern Utah isn't anything to brag about. Especially against a team that was 5-6 and lost 73-7 to Utah last year

 

[SoIll]

You didn't watch the game did you?

 

[Henges24]

You didn't watch the game did you?

To be fair he had a much better passing percentage at halftime. Surprised they fell apart in the 2nd half.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Imagine leaving ND for ASU Online for just a degree.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Imagine leaving ND for ASU Online for just a degree.

Imagine? Gladly....

 

[Irishokie]

Pyne is a quarterback. Vertically challenged or not, some banging blonde will assume he’s going to get drafted

 

[BeauBenken]

Imagine? Gladly....

Glad you could find a high def pic.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Glad you could find a high def pic.

This has to be you...

 

[AvesEvo]

I ran into an old high school friend over the 4th who is the recruiting coordinator for an SEC school. He said that there were a lot of upstanding young women at his school, but that there is no place like Arizona State.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

They beat Southern Utah 24-21 and there was a two hour weather delay.

Was this game televised?

 

[dublinirish]

They beat Southern Utah 24-21 and there was a two hour weather delay.

Was this game televised?

On Fubo lol

 

[NDPhilly]

In the portal lmao. Assume he’s gonna get a pay day since he missed out last cycle.

What a joke this sport is.