Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

[T-Boone]

Lol.

In years we all agree Bama doesn’t look like typical Bama, they do shit like lose a National Semi-Final game in OT.


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They havent looked like Bama of old for several years but Young was covering for their avergeness

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Michigan was the better team.
Tommy called an excellent game especially in the second half.
IE doesn't like it, but the national commentary will differ.
The game commentary by Herbstreit agreed with this.
IE will hate all of this but that's based on old hatreds.
I can't live in the past, especially if it sucks.

Based on the hundreds of Twitter posts, which are a mixture of national commentary and IE types, I don’t think the national commentary is going to applaud his performance based on the media members that already shared their opinion.

I don’t think any rational person will try to pin this loss on Tommy, but saying he called an excellent game will be a pretty tough sell.


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[calvegas04]

Lots of smack talk against ND's future HC

 

[Giddyup]

With a serviceable to dominant pash rush it was gonna be hard for a Minroe to make fast reads and hit his downfield receivers

 

[IrishTusker]

My rule of thumb is old school. If you aren’t with Notre Dame, I’m not actively cheering you on with rare exceptions. It’s not bitterness. It’s ND or nothing else for me when it comes to college football. With that said, Tommy called a fine game for a good chunk of that second half. Like many of you have said, the story should come down to Bama’s atrocious defense when it mattered most. That’s on Saban and their DC.

Atrocious defense? The offense had multiple chances to drive the field and win the game and didn't. The defense was bailing out their offense all day. OSU scored 24 on Michigan, on the road. Bama only scored 20.

 

[stlnd01]

Based on the hundreds of Twitter posts, which are a mixture of national commentary and IE types, I don’t think the national commentary is going to applaud his performance based on the media members that already shared their opinion.

I don’t think any rational person will try to pin this loss on Tommy, but saying he called an excellent game will be a pretty tough sell.


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Tommy Rees didn’t call an “excellent” game, nor is he the reason Bama lost. Only among Notre Dame fans do we make every single discussion into a referendum on Tommy Rees. It’s an old habit, we’ll shake it eventually I’d guess.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Tommy did a decent job in the second half with a limited QB until he didn’t. It is what it is.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

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[china423]

 

[IrishLion]

Based on all of the ineffective perimeter screens I’ve seen from ND’s offense, I still don’t know if I believe the Bama RB gets in if Milroe pulls it for the RPO throw lol

I just don’t like the playcall, even if Milroe is best on the QB power version of the RPO.

In that area, with one play to win, against that defensive front, it needs to be straight rollout for Milroe, where he either has a chance to run it in or create a throwing angle in a constricted area.

 

[T-Boone]

They should have handed it off to Derrick Henry.

 

[IrishLax]

Their biggest issues all night were execution. Tons of blown protections in the first half. For their midfield turnover where Milroe fumbled, he had a player WIDE OPEN in the flat on what was likely an RPO. If he throws the ball out there it’s a big gain maybe even a 50+ yard TD.

Execution is on the players but it’s also on the coaches. Bottom line is their OL and QB played really poorly, and the first half gameplan on offense that was drop back heavy didn’t help them.

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

They should have handed it off to Derrick Henry.

Harris would’ve scored too!
Hurdled the whole line.

 

[BilboBaggins]

Their biggest issues all night were execution. Tons of blown protections in the first half. For their midfield turnover where Milroe fumbled, he had a player WIDE OPEN in the flat on what was likely an RPO. If he throws the ball out there it’s a big gain maybe even a 50+ yard TD.

Execution is on the players but it’s also on the coaches. Bottom line is their OL and QB played really poorly, and the first half gameplan on offense that was drop back heavy didn’t help them.

One more play works and we're talking about Michigan's lack of execution and botched punt returns.

I thought Rees called a fine game and the posters tripping over themselves to pile on are kidding themselves.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

One more play works and we're talking about Michigan's lack of execution and botched punt returns.

I thought Rees called a fine game and the posters tripping over themselves to pile on are kidding themselves.

116 passing yards and less than 300 total yards of offense passes as a fine game? Are you high? That offensive gameplan was tier 1 dogshit all game outside of the 3rd qtr.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

116 passing yards and less than 300 total yards of offense passes as a fine game? Are you high? That offensive gameplan was tier 1 dogshit all game outside of the 3rd qtr.

Oh and 3/13 on 3rd down. Sounds a lot like the ass performances we had under Tommy too against any contender quality defense

 

[JamIrish]

Bama's offensive play calls are basically duo run (like ND last year), Milroe bomb it, or Milroe RUN!!!!

 

[Irish#1]

Their biggest issues all night were execution. Tons of blown protections in the first half. For their midfield turnover where Milroe fumbled, he had a player WIDE OPEN in the flat on what was likely an RPO. If he throws the ball out there it’s a big gain maybe even a 50+ yard TD.

Execution is on the players but it’s also on the coaches. Bottom line is their OL and QB played really poorly, and the first half gameplan on offense that was drop back heavy didn’t help them.

A lot of the poor execution was due to having so many bad snaps. It throws everything off right from the start. Really surprised Saban didn't switch centers after the first half. I also wonder if Tommy doesn't trust Milroe with the short and intermediate passing game? Except for the WR screen, every pass seems to be deep.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Their biggest issues all night were execution. Tons of blown protections in the first half. For their midfield turnover where Milroe fumbled, he had a player WIDE OPEN in the flat on what was likely an RPO. If he throws the ball out there it’s a big gain maybe even a 50+ yard TD.

Execution is on the players but it’s also on the coaches. Bottom line is their OL and QB played really poorly, and the first half gameplan on offense that was drop back heavy didn’t help them.

The fumble was ultimately a huge blow for me. They'd just gone up 17-13 and then got Michigan to go three and out. You have that ball at midfield when the fumble occured. If they could have eaten a few minutes and gone up 24-13, the game is just about over.

Michigan missed a field goal after the fumble, but be that as it may, an 11 point lead could they have gotten it there probably ends the game.

 

[NDdomer2]

no one is going to mention how many key moments in the game that alabama's DEFENSE had miscommunications as well. lots of broken coverage and wide open players throughout the game.

 

[tussin]

I'm beginning to think that Tommy's problem as a (college) coach is that he is a great playcaller but struggles to develop talent. Every single year, the narrative is about how Rees "calls a great game given what he had on the roster." Well now he's at freaking Alabama with one of the most talented rosters ever (per 247 team talent) and we are still talking about how he had to overcome roster flaws.

 

[NDdomer2]

I'm beginning to think that Tommy's problem as a (college) coach is that he is a great playcaller but struggles to develop talent. Every single year, the narrative is about how Rees "calls a great game given what he had on the roster." Well now he's at freaking Alabama with one of the most talented rosters ever (per 247 team talent) and we are still talking about how he had to overcome roster flaws.

their oline did look like it was in shambles most of the game. would you put it on Tommy in year 1 that they are starting a true frosh at LT?

I would consider that a roster flaw that isn't related to his doing.

I think overall everyone wants things to be very black and white with who is to blame and its rarely that. A lot of decisions and circumstances in the long term and short term make things what they are.

I believe you can point to the improvement that Milroe and the offense made from first part of the year to the end of the year as successful coaching and development of players and I think you can point to some of the flaws that existed at the end on things pre tommy and things related to Tommy.

There is always a healthy discussion on development of players outside a coordinators direct position group as well. As the OC, yes you are in charge of all offense, but how much of oline development falls on the OC/QB coach feet?

Overall, there are quite a few here that would blame Tommy for Saban catching a cold and it's probably not a logical debate that will be had.

Will be interesting to follow the next season or two. Milroe is primed to be a Heisman candidate or fall flat on his face.

 

[IrishLion]

no one is going to mention how many key moments in the game that alabama's DEFENSE had miscommunications as well. lots of broken coverage and wide open players throughout the game.

I think you could argue they ultimately did their job with the point total they allowed, particulary with how Milroe had been playing lately... but the timing and style of their defensive breakdowns in key moments were shocking to see from a Saban defensive unit.

 

[NDdomer2]

I think you could argue they ultimately did their job with the point total they allowed, particulary with how Milroe had been playing lately... but the timing and style of their defensive breakdowns in key moments were shocking to see from a Saban defensive unit.

some of that point total is also on michigan for their own poor execution, but I agree. largely the defense did enough, but it just seemed like every huge 3rd down they had a busted coverage leaving someone wide open for a conversion. And like you said, for a Saban defense, that's pretty unheard of.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

no one is going to mention how many key moments in the game that alabama's DEFENSE had miscommunications as well. lots of broken coverage and wide open players throughout the game.

Of course not.

The 4th and 2 play on the last drive was wide open.

 

[tussin]

their oline did look like it was in shambles most of the game. would you put it on Tommy in year 1 that they are starting a true frosh at LT?

I would consider that a roster flaw that isn't related to his doing.

You act like he is starting Bruce Heggie. Kadyn Proctor was a 5-star all everything recruit who was expected to come in an immediately compete for a starting job. Bama has 5-stars across the board and then 4/5 star depth behind them at every position... at a certain point maybe it's not a coincidence that Rees consistently has rosters with foundational flaws?

 

[Sea Turtle]

Maybe Miichigan had something to do with all of the problems that Alabama had last night.

 

[IrishTusker]

Maybe Miichigan had something to do with all of the problems that Alabama had last night.

Michigan didn't cause the center to botch snaps or the QB to fumble. Both killed promising Bama drives at midfield.

 

[MacIrish75]

I'm beginning to think that Tommy's problem as a (college) coach is that he is a great playcaller but struggles to develop talent. Every single year, the narrative is about how Rees "calls a great game given what he had on the roster." Well now he's at freaking Alabama with one of the most talented rosters ever (per 247 team talent) and we are still talking about how he had to overcome roster flaws.

Which is why it’s always made sense to me that he’d look to the NFL ranks. “Great playcaller/gameplanner but isn’t a great talent developer” can work at that level in a way that it can’t in the NCAA.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Michigan didn't cause the center to botch snaps or the QB to fumble. Both killed promising Bama drives at midfield.

Their o-linne was getting smashed by the wolverine d-line so you might be wrong there.

Michigan is the better team.