Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

Brian Kelly Revisited

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Veritate Duce Progredi said:
This is what we're telling you. We had it for 10 years, Kelly will build a roster and put a talented team on the field but he will always have a weakness. Some years it's special teams, some years it's defense, some years it's offense. He may figure it out in his 30th or 40th year coaching, I mean eventually guys can get lucky. Look at Orgeron.

Kelly helped stabilize ND and also held the Irish back a few years because of his hires/recruiting. Our 2015 team was deadly on offense, our defense was one of the worst things I've ever seen and it had Jaylon Smith on it, who is in the group of most athletic linebackers I've ever watched.

Kelly will always have a reason why he isn't winning enough and, if LSU fans are like me, they'll see the reasonableness of his position and give him the benefit of the doubt. Kelly is a politician first and foremost.
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I think most thought that if Les Miles and Orgeron could win a NC, Kelly could too. That may not be the case (and I've said before that I wasn't too sure if he could ever do it). I can't imagine that NIL will help him, either. There's too many paupers in Louisiana to pool considerable money together.

I understand that it's hard to win a NC - at minimum, I hope for stability. But (and I'll give him his due, Coach Driskell harped on this time after time again), Kelly's got to stop shifting blame on the players. It's an awful, awful look as their HC.
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
I think most thought that if Les Miles and Orgeron could win a NC, Kelly could too. That may not be the case (and I've said before that I wasn't too sure if he could ever do it). I can't imagine that NIL will help him, either. There's too many paupers in Louisiana to pool considerable money together.

I understand that it's hard to win a NC - at minimum, I hope for stability. But (and I'll give him his due, Coach Driskell harped on this time after time again), Kelly's got to stop shifting blame on the players. It's an awful, awful look as their HC.
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With the right mix of players, Coach Kelly can certainly win a championship at LSU ... LSU has had much crummier coaches that did. Coach Kelly's issue is, to me at this stage of his career, that he has decided that he must become a Chief Executive Officer Of a Big Institution-type coach. AND this means he MUST have SEC quality TOP Coordinators. That defense, with that personnel, DOESN'T fall apart with a TOP DC. Even the LSU offense doesn't look so occasionally flakey with a TOP OC. And God Knows, those special teams goofs don't happen (so much anyway) with a TOP STC. Hell for all I know, he might need a better Strength and Conditioning coach. Kelly can still create an outstanding football system, in all its dimensions. But I DO believe that his flaw is staff creation, and getting distance from coaches who are marginally adequate friends. I also believe that his evolution as a coach was grassroots up, and not established tree branch. I think that this leaves him just a bit too outside the high quality coaching barrel.
 
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Old Man Mike said:
With the right mix of players, Coach Kelly can certainly win a championship at LSU ... LSU has had much crummier coaches that did. Coach Kelly's issue is, to me at this stage of his career, that he has decided that he must become a Chief Executive Officer Of a Big Institution-type coach. AND this means he MUST have SEC quality TOP Coordinators. That defense, with that personnel, DOESN'T fall apart with a TOP DC. Even the LSU offense doesn't look so occasionally flakey with a TOP OC. And God Knows, those special teams goofs don't happen (so much anyway) with a TOP STC. Hell for all I know, he might need a better Strength and Conditioning coach. Kelly can still create an outstanding football system, in all its dimensions. But I DO believe that his flaw is staff creation, and getting distance from coaches who are marginally adequate friends. I also believe that his evolution as a coach was grassroots up, and not established tree branch. I think that this leaves him just a bit too outside the high quality coaching barrel.
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I tend to agree with this assessment. He's only hurting himself by not being down in the weeds with everyone on a fairly regular basis where he can communicate and observe. As I mentioned before, his hiring of some of his old coaches is a lazy way to address problems and build a competent staff.
 
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Irish#1 said:
I tend to agree with this assessment. He's only hurting himself by not being down in the weeds with everyone on a fairly regular basis where he can communicate and observe. As I mentioned before, his hiring of some of his old coaches is a lazy way to address problems and build a competent staff.
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It's pretty amazing that this was a huge weakness in his time here. Then the reboot happened after the BVG fiasco and he went outside his friends and family circle and hired some really good coaches. During that time he had the most consistent, long-term success during his ND tenure. He goes o LSU and reverts back to the old BK? Why?
 
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NDohio said:
It's pretty amazing that this was a huge weakness in his time here. Then the reboot happened after the BVG fiasco and he went outside his friends and family circle and hired some really good coaches. During that time he had the most consistent, long-term success during his ND tenure. He goes o LSU and reverts back to the old BK? Why?
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Probably cause he can again. It wouldn’t surprise me if him sticking around after 2016 was contingent on him going outside his buddies or he knew his job was on the line.
 
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KPENN said:
Probably cause he can again. It wouldn’t surprise me if him sticking around after 2016 was contingent on him going outside his buddies or he knew his job was on the line.
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Wasn't that the rumor going around?
 
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Top level college and pro coaches are supposed to be inhuman, and I think that they mostly are --- sacrificing everything else to football. (And as much as I like good football, I think that they are imbeciles for living like that.) It is my opinion that our, now old, coach went down South to somewhere where he thought that MAYBE it wouldn't be so hard on him (and family.) And guess what he found out? Maybe it's even harder. Nothing's coming easy. In a way he HAD something already given at Notre Dame --- a solid culture and environment and very intelligent players in all roster spots. But he swapped that for allegedly better athletes, speed, and DLine monsters, and maybe it's coming down on him. Ed Orgeron seems to have had ONE important thing given to him that Coach Kelly completely lacks --- he seems to have at least been totally in tune with the culture he needed to deal with. He also probably hired more appropriate assistants. That last I don't know, but it can't have ONLY been Joe Burrow.
 
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IrishSteelhead said:
Exactly. I just wish the thread title could be changed to “In here, we laugh at Brian Kelly.”


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I am surprised Brian Kelly thread still hasn’t been revised to an appropriate name along the Dante Moore / Jerkovich type of thread titles. Brian Kelly Chud for Money type of title. Or your suggestion.
 
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ND88 said:
I know the consensus is that we don’t like Driskell, but I disagree with this comment in the sense that there are instructors at every level. And the title of coach isn’t immediately distinguished by levels as say a teacher where you have professors, etc. There isn’t anything wrong with a D3 coach being called coach. It’s just being pompous when discussing the level you haven’t coached at. That’s the issue. :)
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Except he's no longer a coach, hasn't been one in 10 years, and he was a poor one when he was. He was part of 3 programs in 4 years, the last 2 years were abject failure. I'm not going to call some putz "coach" because he decided to dabble in the sport for a few years.
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
It's a joke. "Coach", "Coach Driskell", "Coach D"... although sophomoric, I still get a kick out of it.
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I bet you call your son’s T-Ball Coach - “Coach” when you see him at the local Starbucks - or in LSU land that would be Waffle House or Cracker Barrel.
 
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I bet you call your son’s T-Ball Coach - “Coach” when you see him at the local Starbucks - or in LSU land that would be Waffle House or Cracker Barrel.
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Not to answer for forkbeard, but personally I've got more respect for the T-Ball coach. He's volunteering his time for free and probably has more success than Driskell.
 
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ulukinatme said:
Not to answer for forkbeard, but personally I've got more respect for the T-Ball coach. He's volunteering his time for free and probably has more success than Driskell.
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-He used to hate on Kelly for passing on Jerkovich.
-He used to go nuts on posters who pointed out Buchner is accident prone.
-He used to call Tommy Rees an Offensive Genius.
-Every year he refused to see ND could lose a game - ever.
-Posts meaningless Dancing Emojis on so-called Silent Commits and then riips Crystal Balls and predictions by other hard working analysts.

The list can go on and on. But go ahead he can be Coach to you all. I think being called a Coach is an earned title and a term of respect. Not some passive / aggressive silly man.
 
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Irishdrunk said:
I bet you call your son’s T-Ball Coach - “Coach” when you see him at the local Starbucks - or in LSU land that would be Waffle House or Cracker Barrel.
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Nothing wrong with the latter; however, we drink Community in Louisiana, Nancy. Starbucks and its charred coffee is also pretty awful.
 
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I'm sure glad that the 'swamp rats' in the bayou have to deal with Krian Belly's antics and finger pointing. Also, was glad when Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss shoved one up their lame asses last week!!! Woooo!
 
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He no longer seems as happy. He needs to look at his bank account again and he will feel better. Has that monthly $700K deposit happened yet?
 
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I understand why he grates on some but as a fellow sarcastic Bostonian I've always kind of enjoyed BK's weird sense of humor. The combo of half-hearted delivery and the dismissive hand-wave at the end are what really sells it.
 
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You just lost to Ole Miss because your team completely forgot how to play defense. 55 points...in regulation! Shades of the 2016 season. Learn how to read the room lol. Not the time for jokes.
 
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