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absolutely 110% agree. gold, yellow, white - anything but navy numbers.
 

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Did some poster just point to a Notre Dame vs Nebraska game as being embarrassingly unbalanced in terms of fan attendance?

I'm apparently losing it.
 

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The Athletic Department strikes again. Tickets for OSU have already sold out. Even the Monogram level of priority didn't get them. Excellent work from Ol' Lady Frames and his crew of flunkies.
 

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The Athletic Department strikes again. Tickets for OSU have already sold out. Even the Monogram level of priority didn't get them. Excellent work from Ol' Lady Frames and his crew of flunkies.
Of course they did, alumni gobbled them up to then make $1k off each ticket. The rich get richer :). ND needs a policy for big games where you scan an alumni id with your ticket. If it's not you then you get docked some sort of point system.

Other schools implement something like that. The intent is if you buy tickets and can't make it then you sell or give back to the school instead of to an opposing fan.
 

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Of course they did, alumni gobbled them up to then make $1k off each ticket. The rich get richer :). ND needs a policy for big games where you scan an alumni id with your ticket. If it's not you then you get docked some sort of point system.

Other schools implement something like that. The intent is if you buy tickets and can't make it then you sell or give back to the school instead of to an opposing fan.
Only a small set of alumni are ahead of the Monogram club, and it's based on their donation level (so non-alumni are also ahead of them if they donate enough money). The Athletic Department increased the ticket maximums for those level as compared to similar games in prior years. The vast majority of alumni are behind the Monogram Club in priority, and are also shut out.
 

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This game is going to be a see of red, and all of my alumni friends are pissed. The ND ticket policy says they can cancel and refund tickets being sold above retail, but there's no way they actually do anything about it, especially if it really is big donors getting in on them. I've been to a handful of home games where we ended up outnumbered and it's super deflating so I'd love to see this addressed.
 

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Yeah it's going to be too bad to see ND having to use the silent count to snap the ball
 

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Only a small set of alumni are ahead of the Monogram club, and it's based on their donation level (so non-alumni are also ahead of them if they donate enough money). The Athletic Department increased the ticket maximums for those level as compared to similar games in prior years. The vast majority of alumni are behind the Monogram Club in priority, and are also shut out.
Curious, do you have a solution you'd propose to not allow ND tickets to keep getting resold for every big home game we have (when a team doesn't visit much).
 

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They are facilitating resales on the ND ticket site so it seems Our Lady is well positioned to profit off of the resale market. Normally there is a 2 ticket limit to a game like OSU - not sure what it was this year but I was able to buy the four I wanted. I am more likely to go because I can get four tickets and take the family whereas before I would only be able to get two tickets and probably take an OSU friend. So in that instance - 50/50 changes to 100% Irish even if we won't be as drunk and disorderly. However the travel arrangements aren't made until the tickets are secured - hotels are long ago reserved and prices are ridiculous. Have to fly in to Chicago b/c direct to the Bend isn't happening. 7:30 kickoff makes it more of a grind to book something down the road a bit. Logistics are a bitch a big chunk of the ND base. Why not drop that coin on Shamrock series instead?

However the selection was crap and as others have pointed out they sold out before the most likely to be rabid portion of the fanbase could get their mitts on tickets.

ND is a small enrollment school in a small market with a vast sum of the alumni scattered across the country (and world for that matter). OSU kicks out multiples more alumni than ND with a very Ohio centric alumni dispersion. If you don't live near there, you have buddies who do so you can road trip with the ticket to the game being your primary outlay. ND fans need airfare, hotels, rental cars, etc. If you overlaid ND/OSU alums living within 150 miles of campus I wouldn't be surprised to see more OSU alums.
 

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They are facilitating resales on the ND ticket site so it seems Our Lady is well positioned to profit off of the resale market. Normally there is a 2 ticket limit to a game like OSU - not sure what it was this year but I was able to buy the four I wanted. I am more likely to go because I can get four tickets and take the family whereas before I would only be able to get two tickets and probably take an OSU friend. So in that instance - 50/50 changes to 100% Irish even if we won't be as drunk and disorderly. However the travel arrangements aren't made until the tickets are secured - hotels are long ago reserved and prices are ridiculous. Have to fly in to Chicago b/c direct to the Bend isn't happening. 7:30 kickoff makes it more of a grind to book something down the road a bit. Logistics are a bitch a big chunk of the ND base. Why not drop that coin on Shamrock series instead?

However the selection was crap and as others have pointed out they sold out before the most likely to be rabid portion of the fanbase could get their mitts on tickets.

ND is a small enrollment school in a small market with a vast sum of the alumni scattered across the country (and world for that matter). OSU kicks out multiples more alumni than ND with a very Ohio centric alumni dispersion. If you don't live near there, you have buddies who do so you can road trip with the ticket to the game being your primary outlay. ND fans need airfare, hotels, rental cars, etc. If you overlaid ND/OSU alums living within 150 miles of campus I wouldn't be surprised to see more OSU alums.
But why are ND fans selling their tickets to OSU fans like they have for every other big home game (where team doesn't come to ND often)? Is it really to make a buck, is there a way to police this and stop it or at least slow it down? We have some of the wealthiest alumni/donners. They shouldn't be gobbling up tickets to re sell them for top value.
 

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My solution is have more Big home games. I mean we get one maybe two a year? The move to the ACC has really hurt our home game schedule. Before You could see either MICH, or MICH ST, USC, Stanford when they were rolling, and the one offs like a Penn State,
 

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This game is going to be a see of red, and all of my alumni friends are pissed. The ND ticket policy says they can cancel and refund tickets being sold above retail, but there's no way they actually do anything about it, especially if it really is big donors getting in on them. I've been to a handful of home games where we ended up outnumbered and it's super deflating so I'd love to see this addressed.
They eliminated this policy when they began their partnership with resale sites (first VividSeats, now StubHub, but soon to be SeatGeek). They changed it to a policy where they can cancel tickets bought solely for purposes of resale--but the same issues holds, they won't enforce the policy, especially since the resale partnership essentially encourages ND to look the other way.
 

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My solution is have more Big home games. I mean we get one maybe two a year? The move to the ACC has really hurt our home game schedule. Before You could see either MICH, or MICH ST, USC, Stanford when they were rolling, and the one offs like a Penn State,
No one has bigger home games than ND next year with Ohio State and USC. Maybe Bama was Texas, LSU, and Tennessee

2024 is FSU and Miami so not sure how they will be.
 

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No one has bigger home games than ND next year with Ohio State and USC. Maybe Bama was Texas, LSU, and Tennessee

2024 is FSU and Miami so not sure how they will be.
Yes, I agree but this last 5 years have been awful. New Mexico, Marshall, Vandy, central Michigan, Duke, Virginia etc. super pumped about this schedule and future ones as well.
 

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Of course they did, alumni gobbled them up to then make $1k off each ticket. The rich get richer :). ND needs a policy for big games where you scan an alumni id with your ticket. If it's not you then you get docked some sort of point system.

Other schools implement something like that. The intent is if you buy tickets and can't make it then you sell or give back to the school instead of to an opposing fan.
We don't have Alumni IDs. And this isn't Hogwarts where Professor McGonagall deducts 10 points from Dillon Hall...
 

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But why are ND fans selling their tickets to OSU fans like they have for every other big home game (where team doesn't come to ND often)? Is it really to make a buck, is there a way to police this and stop it or at least slow it down? We have some of the wealthiest alumni/donners. They shouldn't be gobbling up tickets to re sell them for top value.

Have you never posted or bought a ticket off of Stubhub (or any equivalent) before? The ticket goes to whoever pays for it. It would be great to exclude the opposition but how the hell do you do that? Take less and encourage some liar to rescalp them without bias?

I get emails from a pile of local ticket offices from buying tickets to basketball and football games vs. ND - UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, NC State all send me . They don't care and neither does ND. Frequently they will package ND with a couple of crappy games for a "ticket deal" - it isn't just selling out the ND game, it is pumping up season tickets and such. NC State is the only one of those four that doesn't do that - their season tickets are too strong.

I guarantee there are a pile of ND season tickets in great locations going to businesses with loose or no alumni connection that hand them to clients. The most interested clients will be the opposition more often than not.
 

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Season ticket holders pay a premium above the face value of the tix. In my case, I travel from TX to probably 3 games each season. Generally come for opener and the 2 best other games. As previously pointed out, ticket cost is on top of travel (air/hotel/rental car/meals). It's worth it for me. But for the other 3 games, usually the low end games, reselling the tix even for face value is hardly ever possible. To sell the premium games to someone willing to pay twice+ the face value price is a way to offset costs. I don't always know if a buyer is ND fan or not when I resell, I don't ask. Look at Vivid Seats for OSU game, I could get triple face value if I wanted to sell.
I know plenty of folks with season tix to NFL, NHL, NBA teams that sell premium games or playoff games that can substantially pay for their ticket package.
I've got ticket stubs to ND games for $6. This year USC and OSU tix are $450, not including the premium for being a season ticket holder. Seems like the Shamrock package is a decent deal, multiple games in different locations.
 

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Curious, do you have a solution you'd propose to not allow ND tickets to keep getting resold for every big home game we have (when a team doesn't visit much).
In order for there to be a solution, ND would need to believe there is a problem. At present, the people who are in charge don't see any problem. Why would I waste energy on devising a solution when they refuse to acknowledge a problem?
 

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Season ticket holders pay a premium above the face value of the tix. In my case, I travel from TX to probably 3 games each season. Generally come for opener and the 2 best other games. As previously pointed out, ticket cost is on top of travel (air/hotel/rental car/meals). It's worth it for me. But for the other 3 games, usually the low end games, reselling the tix even for face value is hardly ever possible. To sell the premium games to someone willing to pay twice+ the face value price is a way to offset costs. I don't always know if a buyer is ND fan or not when I resell, I don't ask. Look at Vivid Seats for OSU game, I could get triple face value if I wanted to sell.
I know plenty of folks with season tix to NFL, NHL, NBA teams that sell premium games or playoff games that can substantially pay for their ticket package.
I've got ticket stubs to ND games for $6. This year USC and OSU tix are $450, not including the premium for being a season ticket holder. Seems like the Shamrock package is a decent deal, multiple games in different locations.

For the $450 level of seats your premium is pretty hefty - pretty much impossible to make that a for profit enterprise IMO. New tiered pricing has surely stomped out a fair amount of the pure scalpers.

I have been a Peach Bowl season ticket holder for six or seven years (something like row 5 in an upper corner). Selling the CFP tickets makes a solid profit and almost always lose money on the other two non-CFP games. And that is a top tier bowl game. I do it to secure a ticket if ND ever makes it there. I have never been able to improve my seats or expand from two to four seats even when CFP is two seasons away.
 

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In order for there to be a solution, ND would need to believe there is a problem. At present, the people who are in charge don't see any problem. Why would I waste energy on devising a solution when they refuse to acknowledge a problem?

The problem they see is the difficulty in selling out crappy games and maximizing revenue. Maximizing revenue and selling out are not necessarily mutually inclusive but they definitely don't care if someone fills their seat as long as the ticket was sold.
 

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This needs to be bookmarked here. Should Notre Dame win, and I think they have a considerable shot, I hope you all rampage Jabba the Hutt and that show immediately after. Go Irish.
 

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This needs to be bookmarked here. Should Notre Dame win, and I think they have a considerable shot, I hope you all rampage Jabba the Hutt and that show immediately after. Go Irish.

Expecting ND to win. People forget how good Stroud was. I'll take Hartman any day over what Ohio St will be rolling in. Going to be a huge game. Go Irish!
 

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Expecting ND to win. People forget how good Stroud was. I'll take Hartman any day over what Ohio St will be rolling in. Going to be a huge game. Go Irish!
I thought Stroud was a big-time gamer, but so was Fields.

Ohio State has kind of a track record lately of putting out excellent products at QB and them producing pretty much immediately.
 

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I thought Stroud was a big-time gamer, but so was Fields.

Ohio State has kind of a track record lately of putting out excellent products at QB and them producing pretty much immediately.

Clemson was the same with Watson + Lawrence. They had a drop off. Surely Ohio State will — one can hope!
 
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